| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... 20:51 - Apr 20 with 3760 views | bluelagos |
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| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... on 21:18 - Apr 20 with 1953 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
Less than a day of deliberation, guilty surely? |  |
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| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... on 21:55 - Apr 20 with 1855 views | noggin |
| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... on 21:18 - Apr 20 by BlueandTruesince82 |
Less than a day of deliberation, guilty surely? |
Wouldn't want to be a Minneapolis cop if it's not guilty. |  |
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| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... on 22:07 - Apr 20 with 1799 views | HARRY10 |
GUILTY |  | | |
| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... on 22:08 - Apr 20 with 1782 views | factual_blue |
| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... on 22:07 - Apr 20 by HARRY10 |
GUILTY |
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| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... on 22:12 - Apr 20 with 1750 views | HARRY10 |
| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... on 22:08 - Apr 20 by factual_blue |
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remanded into custody
sentence in 8 weeks
now lets here the 'righties' spout their sh ite about the need for the death sentence | | | |
| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... on 22:14 - Apr 20 with 1721 views | SpruceMoose |
| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... on 22:07 - Apr 20 by HARRY10 |
GUILTY |
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| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... on 22:15 - Apr 20 with 1699 views | J2BLUE |
It was never going to be anything else. The footage was damning. |  |
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| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... on 22:18 - Apr 20 with 1673 views | jeera |
| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... on 22:15 - Apr 20 by J2BLUE |
It was never going to be anything else. The footage was damning. |
Yes, but also couldn't help but wonder.
They seem to get away with it so often nothing is surprising.
It won't bring the victim back, but maybe it'll help stop others being murdered in the same way. |  |
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| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... on 22:26 - Apr 20 with 1647 views | J2BLUE |
| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... on 22:18 - Apr 20 by jeera |
Yes, but also couldn't help but wonder.
They seem to get away with it so often nothing is surprising.
It won't bring the victim back, but maybe it'll help stop others being murdered in the same way. |
Absolutely. It's 'justice' but it's not true justice. | |
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| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... on 22:28 - Apr 20 with 1632 views | HARRY10 |
| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... on 22:26 - Apr 20 by J2BLUE |
Absolutely. It's 'justice' but it's not true justice. |
It's a significant step back from the abyss Trump had been dragging the country towards | | | |
| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... on 22:32 - Apr 20 with 1609 views | Ryorry |
Kudos to the teen who filmed the whole horrifying thing without stopping, which enabled this prosecution. Well done also to the prosecution team & jury.
I hate to think of the consequences if the verdict had been not guilty. |  |
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| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... on 22:36 - Apr 20 with 1586 views | HARRY10 |
| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... on 22:32 - Apr 20 by Ryorry |
Kudos to the teen who filmed the whole horrifying thing without stopping, which enabled this prosecution. Well done also to the prosecution team & jury.
I hate to think of the consequences if the verdict had been not guilty. |
Horrible to think of the number in the US who would have welcomed a not guilty verdict | | | |
| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... on 22:36 - Apr 20 with 1579 views | WicklowBlue |
| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... on 22:26 - Apr 20 by J2BLUE |
Absolutely. It's 'justice' but it's not true justice. |
Unsure as to what you mean by true justice, but there was no way the verdict could be anything other than guilty. So the judicial system got it right, as I just said over here there is no way that amount of force was justified.
I hope this leads to a serious challenge to the upper echelons of the policing system across the US. While Chauvin will serve time, a huge review of policing across the US is needed from the very top down. |  | | |
| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... on 22:43 - Apr 20 with 1552 views | Ryorry |
| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... on 22:36 - Apr 20 by HARRY10 |
Horrible to think of the number in the US who would have welcomed a not guilty verdict |
Yeah, that too. | |
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| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... on 23:17 - Apr 20 with 1488 views | noggin |
From the evidence I heard, the paramedics did so much wrong. Their slow actions ad rash decisions must have removed any chance of resuscitation. Of course I wasn't there so don't know how and why their decisions were made. | |
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| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... on 23:19 - Apr 20 with 1477 views | jeera |
| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... on 23:17 - Apr 20 by noggin |
From the evidence I heard, the paramedics did so much wrong. Their slow actions ad rash decisions must have removed any chance of resuscitation. Of course I wasn't there so don't know how and why their decisions were made. |
I don't know about that and also haven't followed it closely tbh, but there was one lady who has been a prominent witness isn't there?
A paramedic with the fire service [?] who was present and tried to intervene but the cops wouldn't allow her. | |
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| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... on 23:27 - Apr 20 with 1463 views | J2BLUE |
| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... on 22:36 - Apr 20 by WicklowBlue |
Unsure as to what you mean by true justice, but there was no way the verdict could be anything other than guilty. So the judicial system got it right, as I just said over here there is no way that amount of force was justified.
I hope this leads to a serious challenge to the upper echelons of the policing system across the US. While Chauvin will serve time, a huge review of policing across the US is needed from the very top down. |
I completely agree with that. All I meant was no sentence is truly justice when a human being has lost their life and can't be brought back. | |
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| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... on 23:29 - Apr 20 with 1451 views | noggin |
| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... on 23:19 - Apr 20 by jeera |
I don't know about that and also haven't followed it closely tbh, but there was one lady who has been a prominent witness isn't there?
A paramedic with the fire service [?] who was present and tried to intervene but the cops wouldn't allow her. |
The medics should have insisted that the cuffs be removed and the patient laid on his back, immediately. Airway and breathing cannot be assessed otherwise. If the guy wasn't breathing, full CPR should have been commenced immediately. Instead, they lifted him into the ambulance and drove a few blocks before any primary assessment was undertaken.
Resuscitation should have been attempted right there in the street. | |
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| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... on 23:31 - Apr 20 with 1437 views | jeera |
| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... on 23:29 - Apr 20 by noggin |
The medics should have insisted that the cuffs be removed and the patient laid on his back, immediately. Airway and breathing cannot be assessed otherwise. If the guy wasn't breathing, full CPR should have been commenced immediately. Instead, they lifted him into the ambulance and drove a few blocks before any primary assessment was undertaken.
Resuscitation should have been attempted right there in the street. |
Agree with all that, (and respect your expertise of course).
I hadn't realised no one gave any assistance at all at the scene, even afterwards, so to speak. | |
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| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... on 23:33 - Apr 20 with 1419 views | HARRY10 |
| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... on 23:29 - Apr 20 by noggin |
The medics should have insisted that the cuffs be removed and the patient laid on his back, immediately. Airway and breathing cannot be assessed otherwise. If the guy wasn't breathing, full CPR should have been commenced immediately. Instead, they lifted him into the ambulance and drove a few blocks before any primary assessment was undertaken.
Resuscitation should have been attempted right there in the street. |
Perhaps you might care to explain why resuscitation was needed
it might be a clue | | | |
| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... on 23:35 - Apr 20 with 1399 views | jeera |
| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... on 23:33 - Apr 20 by HARRY10 |
Perhaps you might care to explain why resuscitation was needed
it might be a clue |
I think you misunderstand Noggin's post Harry.
He knows why resuscitation was needed, and is simply speaking from experience from a medic's POV what should have been done to revive him on the spot. | |
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| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... on 23:46 - Apr 20 with 1370 views | HARRY10 |
| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... on 23:35 - Apr 20 by jeera |
I think you misunderstand Noggin's post Harry.
He knows why resuscitation was needed, and is simply speaking from experience from a medic's POV what should have been done to revive him on the spot. |
perhaps this why no acyion was, or could be, taken
"and many bystanders including a trained first responder who tried to intervene only for Chauvin to pull his mace from his belt and threaten her until she stepped back. " | | | |
| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... on 23:48 - Apr 20 with 1360 views | jeera |
| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... on 23:46 - Apr 20 by HARRY10 |
perhaps this why no acyion was, or could be, taken
"and many bystanders including a trained first responder who tried to intervene only for Chauvin to pull his mace from his belt and threaten her until she stepped back. " |
He means when the ambulance finally arrived.
He was whisked away instead of measures being taken right there on the road.
I suppose they would be working on him inside the vehicle but I understand what Nogs is saying, that those few seconds can make all the difference.
It is his profession, so natural for him to ask questions on actions that would differ from his own in that situation.
Edit: apparently the point was sort of addressed, but would still be a matter of contention for some who work in the role you'd think:
"The Hennepin Healthcare Emergency Medical Services (EMS) head suggested in an interview that EMS workers could save time by treating a patient in an ambulance instead of unloading all relevant medical equipment."
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-floyd-claims-idUSKBN23J2JK [Post edited 20 Apr 2021 23:55]
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| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... on 23:50 - Apr 20 with 1354 views | wkj |
Good verdict, but this one is going to go through no end of appeals - that is clear.
Very rarely do guilty verdicts occur, or are maintained, against US Police officers. |  |
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| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... on 00:02 - Apr 21 with 1323 views | HARRY10 |
| Skynews reporting Chauvin verdict in 45 mins... on 23:48 - Apr 20 by jeera |
He means when the ambulance finally arrived.
He was whisked away instead of measures being taken right there on the road.
I suppose they would be working on him inside the vehicle but I understand what Nogs is saying, that those few seconds can make all the difference.
It is his profession, so natural for him to ask questions on actions that would differ from his own in that situation.
Edit: apparently the point was sort of addressed, but would still be a matter of contention for some who work in the role you'd think:
"The Hennepin Healthcare Emergency Medical Services (EMS) head suggested in an interview that EMS workers could save time by treating a patient in an ambulance instead of unloading all relevant medical equipment."
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-floyd-claims-idUSKBN23J2JK [Post edited 20 Apr 2021 23:55]
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The attempts at resuscitation happened almost immediately once he was in the ambulance. The explanation for that can be found in the link.
If Noggin was fully aware of what happened perhaps he would not have asked that question
have a read here
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9427987/Derek-Chauvin-trial-Jury-sees-g | | | |
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