To those who want Cook out on 21:27 - Apr 20 with 1303 views | Nthsuffolkblue | There are two things. One he should be judged on what he does with the squad he assembles in the summer and having worked with them preseason. Two, it is disappointing he has been unable to get better out of what we have got than they were doing (indeed, the results have got worse). It would be wrong to say that causes no concern at all. | |
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To those who want Cook out on 21:28 - Apr 20 with 1279 views | chrismakin |
To those who want Cook out on 21:27 - Apr 20 by Nthsuffolkblue | There are two things. One he should be judged on what he does with the squad he assembles in the summer and having worked with them preseason. Two, it is disappointing he has been unable to get better out of what we have got than they were doing (indeed, the results have got worse). It would be wrong to say that causes no concern at all. |
why is it a concern, as since October the team has done nothing at all | |
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To those who want Cook out on 21:29 - Apr 20 with 1276 views | townblue |
To those who want Cook out on 21:27 - Apr 20 by Nthsuffolkblue | There are two things. One he should be judged on what he does with the squad he assembles in the summer and having worked with them preseason. Two, it is disappointing he has been unable to get better out of what we have got than they were doing (indeed, the results have got worse). It would be wrong to say that causes no concern at all. |
This. I think the reason it's so disappointing is because we all thought Cook was the right man. In reality we have become worse. | | | |
To those who want Cook out on 21:29 - Apr 20 with 1266 views | NeedhamChris | Yes. We’d have also had Hurst and Lambert out sooner. It’s not always wrong. There are always exceptions, Sir Bobby is in a league of one. | |
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To those who want Cook out on 21:33 - Apr 20 with 1226 views | BlueBadger |
To those who want Cook out on 21:28 - Apr 20 by chrismakin | why is it a concern, as since October the team has done nothing at all |
October 2018? | |
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To those who want Cook out on 21:35 - Apr 20 with 1202 views | Beckets | In his first 12 games Sir Bobby’s record was won 5 drew 5 lost 2. Somewhat better than Cook. | | | |
To those who want Cook out on 21:36 - Apr 20 with 1189 views | chrismakin |
To those who want Cook out on 21:35 - Apr 20 by Beckets | In his first 12 games Sir Bobby’s record was won 5 drew 5 lost 2. Somewhat better than Cook. |
Did Sir Bobby have Sears? | |
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To those who want Cook out on 21:37 - Apr 20 with 1178 views | TieDyedIn95 | That was the 1960's. This is 2021. the argument has no relevance. Are you saying we should have kept Hurst by that account? Keane and Jewell weren't here very long either. Hanging onto rubbish managers has been one of our biggest failings as a club. Sacking good ones has also been an issue in Burley, Royle, Magic and Mick. | |
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To those who want Cook out on 21:38 - Apr 20 with 1165 views | Beckets |
To those who want Cook out on 21:36 - Apr 20 by chrismakin | Did Sir Bobby have Sears? |
No but his first 12 games were in the top flight and he had an immediate impact. | | | |
To those who want Cook out on 21:53 - Apr 20 with 1097 views | chrismakin |
To those who want Cook out on 21:38 - Apr 20 by Beckets | No but his first 12 games were in the top flight and he had an immediate impact. |
So we had some top flight players to make the most of then, not a bunch of average league 1 players | |
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To those who want Cook out on 21:59 - Apr 20 with 1076 views | itfcjoe | Robson's first 10 games included 5 wins in the top division - vs Man U, Arsenal, Man City and West Ham which lifted us away from the relegation zone. If you are going to make such a facile comparison at least try and give it a point | |
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To those who want Cook out on 22:01 - Apr 20 with 1059 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
To those who want Cook out on 21:28 - Apr 20 by chrismakin | why is it a concern, as since October the team has done nothing at all |
It is a concern that he came in with the club having won a couple of games and in with a decent shout of the play-offs. It appears as if this team was able to perform for Gill. However, under Cook they have been unable to show the same ability or desire. Now that could be because they already knew they were not wanted but Cook should have been able to motivate them to play for their future and prove they were worth a contract. The fact he couldn't do that raises a concern. However, that is mitigated a little by the fact he will clearly get his own players in. | |
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To those who want Cook out on 22:04 - Apr 20 with 1042 views | BlueandTruesince82 | You cant judge the man yet....consider the circumstances. Squad damaged by years of failure, many under 3 different managers. Huge no of players out of contract, many already one foot out of the club since Xmas at least in part due to the above, compounded by the take over almost guaranteeing most are out come summer. Collective losing mentality developed over years of decline Players think they are better than are. Disharmony at the club since at least photogate in pre season Only striker who can score constantly injured. All of the back of 14 years of decline under Evans. He's been nice, they didnt respond, he tried kick up the arse, they didnt respond, he's tried players, formations, they haven't responded, Just like they haven't with the 2 previous managers. He'd be lambasted for playing the u 23s when We could still make the play offs and from our 1st team squad whst combination of players do you look at that you would happily send out? No Norwood he's injured so 1 to 11 what team do you think would get a result? Clamour for Dobra but he hasn't taken his chances other than that weak case and Kenlock who had 2.5 good games I see no one. Cook has identified and said what we have all been saying for 3 years so we all seem to agree with him. This squad is not good enough. Now if come Xmas we are not in contention fine question him but without him signing a player with all of the above to deal with just isn't fair. Hurst had an entire summer, more money out of Evans since Keane and signed 6 players plus loans. Lamber had stayed in L1 with one of the biggest budgets in the league and Cook has inherited what that was all wasted on. I'm not saying he's the answer I'm just saying let the man get his team together, not this lot who have failed for years | |
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To those who want Cook out on 22:07 - Apr 20 with 1020 views | kizaitfc |
To those who want Cook out on 21:27 - Apr 20 by Nthsuffolkblue | There are two things. One he should be judged on what he does with the squad he assembles in the summer and having worked with them preseason. Two, it is disappointing he has been unable to get better out of what we have got than they were doing (indeed, the results have got worse). It would be wrong to say that causes no concern at all. |
Wrong! A large number of fans on here stated the obvious point that the players just are not good enough! Simple as that. Yes he has said some home truths and probably in the short term made matters worse but ultimately based on his record I expect him to get things right next season | |
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To those who want Cook out on 22:12 - Apr 20 with 1010 views | Churchman |
To those who want Cook out on 21:29 - Apr 20 by NeedhamChris | Yes. We’d have also had Hurst and Lambert out sooner. It’s not always wrong. There are always exceptions, Sir Bobby is in a league of one. |
Not really. Alex Ferguson at Man U. George Burley. Take a look at his record in 1994/5 season. Would you have had those two out? They could at least could get players in and they were still dismal starts so I presume that’s a yes. | | | |
To those who want Cook out on 22:18 - Apr 20 with 974 views | Beckets |
To those who want Cook out on 21:53 - Apr 20 by chrismakin | So we had some top flight players to make the most of then, not a bunch of average league 1 players |
He had a bunch of average Division 1 players playing against the likes of Best; Charlton, Ball etc and had an immediate impact. Cook has not. | | | |
To those who want Cook out on 22:19 - Apr 20 with 970 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
To those who want Cook out on 22:04 - Apr 20 by BlueandTruesince82 | You cant judge the man yet....consider the circumstances. Squad damaged by years of failure, many under 3 different managers. Huge no of players out of contract, many already one foot out of the club since Xmas at least in part due to the above, compounded by the take over almost guaranteeing most are out come summer. Collective losing mentality developed over years of decline Players think they are better than are. Disharmony at the club since at least photogate in pre season Only striker who can score constantly injured. All of the back of 14 years of decline under Evans. He's been nice, they didnt respond, he tried kick up the arse, they didnt respond, he's tried players, formations, they haven't responded, Just like they haven't with the 2 previous managers. He'd be lambasted for playing the u 23s when We could still make the play offs and from our 1st team squad whst combination of players do you look at that you would happily send out? No Norwood he's injured so 1 to 11 what team do you think would get a result? Clamour for Dobra but he hasn't taken his chances other than that weak case and Kenlock who had 2.5 good games I see no one. Cook has identified and said what we have all been saying for 3 years so we all seem to agree with him. This squad is not good enough. Now if come Xmas we are not in contention fine question him but without him signing a player with all of the above to deal with just isn't fair. Hurst had an entire summer, more money out of Evans since Keane and signed 6 players plus loans. Lamber had stayed in L1 with one of the biggest budgets in the league and Cook has inherited what that was all wasted on. I'm not saying he's the answer I'm just saying let the man get his team together, not this lot who have failed for years |
'Collective losing mentality developed over years of decline' This mob had been clapped by the happy clappers for the relegation and subsequently labelled as one the best squads in League One. They have had it so easy at Ipswich. No pressure, failure has always been accepted as it's always been a managers fault for many. Cook isn't a magician. He can't turn this lazy mob into the battlers therefore he needs his own players. | | | |
To those who want Cook out on 22:22 - Apr 20 with 949 views | 44_not_out | The mere fact you are using Sir Bobby and Cook in the same post should be reported to admin as abuse | | | |
To those who want Cook out on 22:27 - Apr 20 with 923 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
To those who want Cook out on 22:19 - Apr 20 by Mach_foreignBlue | 'Collective losing mentality developed over years of decline' This mob had been clapped by the happy clappers for the relegation and subsequently labelled as one the best squads in League One. They have had it so easy at Ipswich. No pressure, failure has always been accepted as it's always been a managers fault for many. Cook isn't a magician. He can't turn this lazy mob into the battlers therefore he needs his own players. |
Quite, I just don't think anyone can get a tune out of this lot. We've been awul all season... even early doors we were only edging the results we got. We've had 2 goodish games in 18 months.... almsot everything else has been as a result of the utter dross of this league. Let him build his team 1st | |
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To those who want Cook out on 22:39 - Apr 20 with 889 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
To those who want Cook out on 22:27 - Apr 20 by BlueandTruesince82 | Quite, I just don't think anyone can get a tune out of this lot. We've been awul all season... even early doors we were only edging the results we got. We've had 2 goodish games in 18 months.... almsot everything else has been as a result of the utter dross of this league. Let him build his team 1st |
This mob has had so easy throughout the years. Not demanding owner, easy pay day etc etc. Now we have new people in both owners and the manager. The culture is about to change and they don't like it. They don't play for Cook, they don't play for the club, they don't give a s**t about the fans. Many of them know they won't be here next season. There is a reason why these vvankers are getting embarrassed by Northampton, Wimbledon and not bothered to perform against Rochdale and Wigan. All of that down to one person. That's Evans. He allowed for this culture to set in. Yet we have had number of people who were 'thanking' him on 7th of April......Thanking for this absolute disaster he caused. [Post edited 20 Apr 2021 22:40]
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To those who want Cook out on 23:08 - Apr 20 with 835 views | Eireannach_gorm | ' Things hit the nadir in the 1970/71 season, a defeat to Leeds United causing friction between Robson and two of his most senior players, Billy Baxter and Tommy Carroll, allegedly resulting in the manager and players coming to blows. ' And people are getting upset because Cook ignored the players coming of the pitch! | | | |
To those who want Cook out on 23:37 - Apr 20 with 809 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
To those who want Cook out on 23:08 - Apr 20 by Eireannach_gorm | ' Things hit the nadir in the 1970/71 season, a defeat to Leeds United causing friction between Robson and two of his most senior players, Billy Baxter and Tommy Carroll, allegedly resulting in the manager and players coming to blows. ' And people are getting upset because Cook ignored the players coming of the pitch! |
Or the next season after that. Robson getting heavily knocked for the poor start compounded by 0-7 defeat to Sheffield Utd. Today Cook is getting barracked by some but they forget that prior to the end of this season he has to work with the worst squad in our history. | | | |
To those who want Cook out on 00:27 - Apr 21 with 766 views | patrickswell |
To those who want Cook out on 22:18 - Apr 20 by Beckets | He had a bunch of average Division 1 players playing against the likes of Best; Charlton, Ball etc and had an immediate impact. Cook has not. |
I wasn’t alive in 1969, but I’d dearly love to see any of the current squad match up to the averageness of players from that period like Baxter, Morris, Mills, Viljoen and Crawford. | | | |
To those who want Cook out on 00:39 - Apr 21 with 747 views | Cheltenham_Blue | The posters that want Cook out are the same posters that think there is nothing wrong with the club, our academy is wonderful, our youth are future Premier League players and think that Evans did a wonderful job. | |
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To those who want Cook out on 07:20 - Apr 21 with 600 views | Beckets |
To those who want Cook out on 22:22 - Apr 20 by 44_not_out | The mere fact you are using Sir Bobby and Cook in the same post should be reported to admin as abuse |
Correct. If Cook matched Sir Bobby’s first 12 results we’d be in 4th place in the league now. SBRs poor runs of results came later in his tenure not at the start. | | | |
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