| Watched this clip dozens of times now 10:01 - Apr 21 with 5681 views | GlasgowBlue |
Yeah poor pass from MG. But Dozzell FFS? He stands still then berates MG for a bad pass instead of chasing down the loose ball.
Up there with him adjusting his shin pads and pulling his socks up as a Wigan midfielder runs past him with the ball.
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| Watched this clip dozens of times now on 10:02 - Apr 21 with 3434 views | chrismakin |
Lol. If anything shows what a shambles we have as a playing squad it's that clip. Wasnt even the 1st time MCg made a pass like that he is a dreadful footballer. [Post edited 21 Apr 2021 10:21]
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| Watched this clip dozens of times now on 10:03 - Apr 21 with 3435 views | StokieBlue |
It's more than a poor pass, it's about 3m.
I'd expect a child to get that right 10 out of 10.
I think Dozzell is actually shocked by the pass, he does then turn around and chase the player just as quickly as MG does.
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| Watched this clip dozens of times now on 10:04 - Apr 21 with 3399 views | Pinewoodblue |
Sums up everything that is currently wrong at the club. They gave up weeks ago, it is worrying though that PC seems to have given up too, or it might be he doesn’t know how to sort it out. |  |
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| Watched this clip dozens of times now on 10:04 - Apr 21 with 3397 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Watched this clip dozens of times now on 10:03 - Apr 21 by StokieBlue |
It's more than a poor pass, it's about 3m.
I'd expect a child to get that right 10 out of 10.
I think Dozzell is actually shocked by the pass, he does then turn around and chase the player just as quickly as MG does.
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Look at the clip again. As the ball runs past him he turns his head in MG’s direction as if to say “WTF” before deciding to chase the ball. | |
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| Watched this clip dozens of times now on 10:06 - Apr 21 with 3372 views | Harry_Palmer |
To be fair I think he is just shocked initially and wondering who the pass was actually intended for.
He looks over his shoulder expecting to see another Town player there as I don't think he can believe a pass that inaccurate could have actually been for him. |  | | |
| Watched this clip dozens of times now on 10:08 - Apr 21 with 3314 views | StokieBlue |
| Watched this clip dozens of times now on 10:04 - Apr 21 by GlasgowBlue |
Look at the clip again. As the ball runs past him he turns his head in MG’s direction as if to say “WTF” before deciding to chase the ball. |
Yes, he was shocked by the pass and then turned to chase it. I mean it is shocking that a professional player can't pass 3m. Probably took him a second to realise what happened. He didn't stand there for 5 seconds before chasing the ball. He probably thought the pass was for another player it was so bad.
It's a bit weird you're putting the fault on the player who was shocked rather than the one who can't pass 3m.
It's obviously rubbish in general though and it's shows our problems in microcosm.
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| Watched this clip dozens of times now on 10:09 - Apr 21 with 3285 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Watched this clip dozens of times now on 10:06 - Apr 21 by Harry_Palmer |
To be fair I think he is just shocked initially and wondering who the pass was actually intended for.
He looks over his shoulder expecting to see another Town player there as I don't think he can believe a pass that inaccurate could have actually been for him. |
Yeah that's what I thought, but he ought to know who's around him... and ought to be moving to get it just in case. It's sloppy from both players IMO. |  |
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| Watched this clip dozens of times now on 10:10 - Apr 21 with 3270 views | LevelTheLand |
| Watched this clip dozens of times now on 10:06 - Apr 21 by Harry_Palmer |
To be fair I think he is just shocked initially and wondering who the pass was actually intended for.
He looks over his shoulder expecting to see another Town player there as I don't think he can believe a pass that inaccurate could have actually been for him. |
I don't think Dozzell is in any real position to be overly critical of team mates misplacing a pass. |  | | |
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| Watched this clip dozens of times now on 10:14 - Apr 21 with 3210 views | ZXBlue |
| Watched this clip dozens of times now on 10:03 - Apr 21 by StokieBlue |
It's more than a poor pass, it's about 3m.
I'd expect a child to get that right 10 out of 10.
I think Dozzell is actually shocked by the pass, he does then turn around and chase the player just as quickly as MG does.
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I think he assumed it was for someone else to start with.
Doesnt set off as urgently as he should, but understandable in all the circumstances. |  | | |
| Watched this clip dozens of times now on 10:17 - Apr 21 with 3181 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
Yeah you're right, hadn't noticed that before. Get on with winning the ball back, don't stand there complaining about it!
Also, something else that I haven't seen mentioned - how slow is McG moving at the start of all this? | |
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| Watched this clip dozens of times now on 10:17 - Apr 21 with 3170 views | N2_Blue |
Yep, he unfortunately doesn't show the attitude of a professional player. For all this potential talent that is talked of we have so rarely seen it. Will fans still be saying in two years, oh but give him a run of games and he will come good.
He's had a full season, in yes not a great team, but we have won games at times and yet he has almost contributed nothing in terms of goals and assists.
I could almost forgive this by saying he has little to work with if he had the desire and attitude to work his socks off...but he doesn't. His attitude is symptomatic of the rot in this football club. He's in such a pivotal area of the pitch and we get almost nothing from him. Time to move on. |  |
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| Watched this clip dozens of times now on 10:22 - Apr 21 with 3071 views | Herbivore |
| Watched this clip dozens of times now on 10:03 - Apr 21 by StokieBlue |
It's more than a poor pass, it's about 3m.
I'd expect a child to get that right 10 out of 10.
I think Dozzell is actually shocked by the pass, he does then turn around and chase the player just as quickly as MG does.
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Agreed. It's literally a split second where he pauses and he then turns to go after the ball. People should be shocked that we're playing someone who can't pass the ball 3m, not that the player who had the ball knocked past him gave a brief WTF? before going after the ball. |  |
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| Watched this clip dozens of times now on 10:25 - Apr 21 with 3017 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Watched this clip dozens of times now on 10:08 - Apr 21 by StokieBlue |
Yes, he was shocked by the pass and then turned to chase it. I mean it is shocking that a professional player can't pass 3m. Probably took him a second to realise what happened. He didn't stand there for 5 seconds before chasing the ball. He probably thought the pass was for another player it was so bad.
It's a bit weird you're putting the fault on the player who was shocked rather than the one who can't pass 3m.
It's obviously rubbish in general though and it's shows our problems in microcosm.
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I said it was a bad pass in my op. It’s the general malaise from Dozzell lately that concerns me. Hence the reference to the Wigan game a few weeks back.
On Saturday Dozzell played a world class pass. The sort of pass Beckham would have been proud of. He does that maybe once every six games. There is a quality player there. But I’m concerned that he lacks desire. | |
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| Watched this clip dozens of times now on 10:25 - Apr 21 with 3010 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| Watched this clip dozens of times now on 10:08 - Apr 21 by StokieBlue |
Yes, he was shocked by the pass and then turned to chase it. I mean it is shocking that a professional player can't pass 3m. Probably took him a second to realise what happened. He didn't stand there for 5 seconds before chasing the ball. He probably thought the pass was for another player it was so bad.
It's a bit weird you're putting the fault on the player who was shocked rather than the one who can't pass 3m.
It's obviously rubbish in general though and it's shows our problems in microcosm.
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The worst thing about it for me is McGuinness dawdling with the ball, finally spotting Dozzell has made himself available, and then, even worse than the pass being inaccurate, is the lackadaisical way in which he executed the pass, then didn't immediately prepare to receive a possible return pass (had it been accurate) - this has been endemic throughout the whole team for a long time...... |  |
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| Watched this clip dozens of times now on 10:26 - Apr 21 with 3005 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Watched this clip dozens of times now on 10:17 - Apr 21 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Yeah you're right, hadn't noticed that before. Get on with winning the ball back, don't stand there complaining about it!
Also, something else that I haven't seen mentioned - how slow is McG moving at the start of all this? |
MG looked shot last night. Knew he was at fault for the first goal and his head and legs completely went from him. | |
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| Watched this clip dozens of times now on 10:28 - Apr 21 with 2939 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Watched this clip dozens of times now on 10:22 - Apr 21 by Herbivore |
Agreed. It's literally a split second where he pauses and he then turns to go after the ball. People should be shocked that we're playing someone who can't pass the ball 3m, not that the player who had the ball knocked past him gave a brief WTF? before going after the ball. |
Both are shocking IMO. The pass is worse, but you don't stop to give "a brief WTF" you get on with trying to get the ball back. | |
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| Watched this clip dozens of times now on 10:28 - Apr 21 with 2938 views | chrismakin |
| Watched this clip dozens of times now on 10:25 - Apr 21 by Ewan_Oozami |
The worst thing about it for me is McGuinness dawdling with the ball, finally spotting Dozzell has made himself available, and then, even worse than the pass being inaccurate, is the lackadaisical way in which he executed the pass, then didn't immediately prepare to receive a possible return pass (had it been accurate) - this has been endemic throughout the whole team for a long time...... |
Is there any point in making that pass?
Even if andre gets it. Hes got 2 men round him anyway so it's just going back to mcg who would then be under pressure by the player to dozzells left | |
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| Watched this clip dozens of times now on 10:28 - Apr 21 with 2936 views | Chrisd |
| Watched this clip dozens of times now on 10:04 - Apr 21 by GlasgowBlue |
Look at the clip again. As the ball runs past him he turns his head in MG’s direction as if to say “WTF” before deciding to chase the ball. |
Perhaps do that afterwards once you've retrieved the situation? Completely agree, It's not a great pass, but is it really that far away from Dozzell to not even make an attempt to turn it in to a better one? Perhaps if we were a side playing with confidence and riding high in the league then that might have occurred. You can see McG is telling Dozzell it's coming to him, so he should've been on his toes to expect something coming towards him. | |
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| Watched this clip dozens of times now on 10:29 - Apr 21 with 2920 views | Garv |
| Watched this clip dozens of times now on 10:02 - Apr 21 by chrismakin |
Lol. If anything shows what a shambles we have as a playing squad it's that clip. Wasnt even the 1st time MCg made a pass like that he is a dreadful footballer. [Post edited 21 Apr 2021 10:21]
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He's not a dreadful footballer. He's barely 20 years old.
Have a word. |  |
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| Watched this clip dozens of times now on 10:30 - Apr 21 with 2927 views | TractorCam |
The other thing that hasn't been mentioned yet, this is when we're 2-0 down. 2-0 down when we should be busting a gut to get something out of the match to keep the play offs alive, and this is the attitude.
McGuinness just dordling on the ball, doesn't dare to move forward with it, doesn't look up for a long ball, just very comfortable sitting with it. Downes and Dozzell also just relaxing infront of him, none showing any urgency to receive the ball. Dozzell just watches the very shocking pass go by and his first thought is to moan rather than chase it down, he could easily win it back if he followed it.
That clip defines this season. |  |
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| Watched this clip dozens of times now on 10:30 - Apr 21 with 2913 views | longtimefan |
| Watched this clip dozens of times now on 10:22 - Apr 21 by Herbivore |
Agreed. It's literally a split second where he pauses and he then turns to go after the ball. People should be shocked that we're playing someone who can't pass the ball 3m, not that the player who had the ball knocked past him gave a brief WTF? before going after the ball. |
I actually thought the more shocking part of Dozzell’s performance was the occasion where he received the ball under no pressure near the centre spot, and with Ward open in space on his left and further advanced, he proceeded to put the ball 20 feet in the air and backwards 10 yards towards MG. | | | |
| Watched this clip dozens of times now on 10:30 - Apr 21 with 2911 views | BiGDonnie |
| Watched this clip dozens of times now on 10:03 - Apr 21 by StokieBlue |
It's more than a poor pass, it's about 3m.
I'd expect a child to get that right 10 out of 10.
I think Dozzell is actually shocked by the pass, he does then turn around and chase the player just as quickly as MG does.
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Whilst it was a shocking pass, the reaction from Dozzer is worse IMO. He could have got onto that pass but instead decides to turn back to McG to moan. That's not even discussing how slow Dozzer is to get into that open space. Zero urgency.
We're splitting hairs though, it's absolutely shocking from both players. |  |
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| Watched this clip dozens of times now on 10:31 - Apr 21 with 2902 views | Garv |
| Watched this clip dozens of times now on 10:28 - Apr 21 by chrismakin |
Is there any point in making that pass?
Even if andre gets it. Hes got 2 men round him anyway so it's just going back to mcg who would then be under pressure by the player to dozzells left |
He's got plenty of space. Are we not even expecting our midfielders, supposedly our best, to take the ball on the half turn anymore? | |
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| Watched this clip dozens of times now on 10:32 - Apr 21 with 2887 views | jayessess |
| Watched this clip dozens of times now on 10:25 - Apr 21 by GlasgowBlue |
I said it was a bad pass in my op. It’s the general malaise from Dozzell lately that concerns me. Hence the reference to the Wigan game a few weeks back.
On Saturday Dozzell played a world class pass. The sort of pass Beckham would have been proud of. He does that maybe once every six games. There is a quality player there. But I’m concerned that he lacks desire. |
Cook's singled him out for praise both Saturday and Tuesday. |  |
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