| Whereabouts does ‘the north’ become ‘the north?’ 21:54 - Apr 21 with 5505 views | Blueastheycome |
After reading the thread on Northern based ITFC fans..it got me thinking
It has to be anything in line with Chesterfield doesn’t it? Purely because Sheffield is just 12 miles north of Chesterfield and Sheffield is traditionally considered ‘up north’ [Post edited 21 Apr 2021 21:55]
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| Whereabouts does ‘the north’ become ‘the north?’ on 07:14 - Apr 22 with 1034 views | bluenorth |
| Whereabouts does ‘the north’ become ‘the north?’ on 06:41 - Apr 22 by IPS_wich |
When I went to Uni in Leeds is was often debated and we kind of settled on the divide being based on county borders rather than specific towns/cities.
From East to West everyone agreed:
- Humberside (as was - now East Yorkshire) is in the north; Lincolnshire is in the midlands
- South Yorkshire is in the north, Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire are in the midlands
- Lancashire and Merseyside are in the north, Staffordshire and Shropshire are in the midlands
Which always left Cheshire for endless debate - although the map (see below) would suggest it is in line with Lincs/Derbs/Notts so should be classed as the Midlands.
As for the Midlands to South divide everyone agreed Staffs/Shrops/Derbys/Notts/Lincs (as mentioned) are in the Midlands, plus Leicestershire, Warwickshire, Worcestershire and Herefordshire.
Then one school of thought was that the divide was from the Wash to the Avon, which would mean just the counties named above were the Midlands and everything else was 'the South'.
The second school of thought was that if you look at the map and determine Warwickshire (with Birmingham in the middle) was the true heart of the Midlands, then in addition to those above so Northants, Norfolk, Cambridgeshire and Suffolk should be classed as the Midlands.
I would often then get asked whether I thought I was from the midlands or the south - and when I said neither, I'd always classed myself as East Anglian then everyone would laugh and make some sort of comment that this was no different to being 'welsh' - which to be honest I was fine with because I didn't really fancy being classed as either a midlander or a southerner.
You would also always get some Geordie (including my missus) or some Scot who would say that everyone was a Southerner, even those from Yorkshire...
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Growing up in Suffolk I would have agreed that the north was above the Wash/Severn line, but having lived in the north east for quite a while the midlands doesn’t feel that northern to me. Durham/Cumbria/Northumberland feel ‘proper’ northern but I suppose Yorkshire gets in too. |  | | |
| Whereabouts does ‘the north’ become ‘the north?’ on 08:30 - Apr 22 with 1014 views | IpswichKnight |
| Whereabouts does ‘the north’ become ‘the north?’ on 22:03 - Apr 21 by factual_blue |
I used to regularly annoy a norfukker at work by reminding them norwich is north of Wolverhampton.
They used to get unbelievably angry about this. |
But they get unbelievably angry if you don’t think the village goat isn’t a living God! | | | |
| Whereabouts does ‘the north’ become ‘the north?’ on 08:34 - Apr 22 with 1014 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Whereabouts does ‘the north’ become ‘the north?’ on 22:19 - Apr 21 by ITFC_Forever |
Anything above Stoke / Derby / Nottingham. |
Varies though doesn't it.
Anything above Stoke is what I would say, but I worked in Basingstoke for a year and they constantly referred to me as being 'from the north'. |  |
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| Whereabouts does ‘the north’ become ‘the north?’ on 08:40 - Apr 22 with 1004 views | Kropotkin123 |
| Whereabouts does ‘the north’ become ‘the north?’ on 06:41 - Apr 22 by IPS_wich |
When I went to Uni in Leeds is was often debated and we kind of settled on the divide being based on county borders rather than specific towns/cities.
From East to West everyone agreed:
- Humberside (as was - now East Yorkshire) is in the north; Lincolnshire is in the midlands
- South Yorkshire is in the north, Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire are in the midlands
- Lancashire and Merseyside are in the north, Staffordshire and Shropshire are in the midlands
Which always left Cheshire for endless debate - although the map (see below) would suggest it is in line with Lincs/Derbs/Notts so should be classed as the Midlands.
As for the Midlands to South divide everyone agreed Staffs/Shrops/Derbys/Notts/Lincs (as mentioned) are in the Midlands, plus Leicestershire, Warwickshire, Worcestershire and Herefordshire.
Then one school of thought was that the divide was from the Wash to the Avon, which would mean just the counties named above were the Midlands and everything else was 'the South'.
The second school of thought was that if you look at the map and determine Warwickshire (with Birmingham in the middle) was the true heart of the Midlands, then in addition to those above so Northants, Norfolk, Cambridgeshire and Suffolk should be classed as the Midlands.
I would often then get asked whether I thought I was from the midlands or the south - and when I said neither, I'd always classed myself as East Anglian then everyone would laugh and make some sort of comment that this was no different to being 'welsh' - which to be honest I was fine with because I didn't really fancy being classed as either a midlander or a southerner.
You would also always get some Geordie (including my missus) or some Scot who would say that everyone was a Southerner, even those from Yorkshire...
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Georgies and Scots... That's when you cease being Northern and start being part of a Wildling tribe, right? |  |
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| Whereabouts does ‘the north’ become ‘the north?’ on 08:45 - Apr 22 with 1000 views | noggin |
A geordie forces mate of mine once said to me, "My first girlfriend was a southerner." When I asked where she was from, he said, "Hull." |  |
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| Whereabouts does ‘the north’ become ‘the north?’ on 08:58 - Apr 22 with 986 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
Its a diagonal line isn't it that starts at the Lincs/Norfolk border and the goes down and to the left a bit across 5he county and if drawn correctly should indeed cut just above Watford gap.
Below it your sweet.... above it then you wear a flat cap and breed whippet's |  |
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| Whereabouts does ‘the north’ become ‘the north?’ on 09:15 - Apr 22 with 972 views | Darth_Koont |
Think this is a good stab at it. Showing the North, the Midlands and the disputed territories.
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| It’s everywhere North of Newark on Trent on 09:37 - Apr 22 with 941 views | PJH |
| It’s everywhere North of Newark on Trent on 22:43 - Apr 21 by unstableblue |
... Chesterfield, Mansfield are in the North...
There’s almost a change in architecture, stronger accents, north of that key Town |
My wife is from Retford which is not far from Mansfield and that is certainly 'up north, duck'. |  | | |
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| Whereabouts does ‘the north’ become ‘the north?’ on 09:39 - Apr 22 with 940 views | KallyB |
| Whereabouts does ‘the north’ become ‘the north?’ on 21:55 - Apr 21 by Ftnfwest |
Watford gap services |
Haha! On the flip side London becomes London where the M6 ends! | | | |
| Whereabouts does ‘the north’ become ‘the north?’ on 09:46 - Apr 22 with 931 views | Metal_Hacker |
Surely up to the MIDLANDS it’s the South and anything above is the NORF |  |
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| Whereabouts does ‘the north’ become ‘the north?’ on 09:54 - Apr 22 with 924 views | KallyB |
| Whereabouts does ‘the north’ become ‘the north?’ on 09:46 - Apr 22 by Metal_Hacker |
Surely up to the MIDLANDS it’s the South and anything above is the NORF |
No we aint South or North, we are Midlands, clues in the name....middle of the land lol! | | | |
| Whereabouts does ‘the north’ become ‘the north?’ on 09:59 - Apr 22 with 923 views | Blueastheycome |
| Whereabouts does ‘the north’ become ‘the north?’ on 06:41 - Apr 22 by IPS_wich |
When I went to Uni in Leeds is was often debated and we kind of settled on the divide being based on county borders rather than specific towns/cities.
From East to West everyone agreed:
- Humberside (as was - now East Yorkshire) is in the north; Lincolnshire is in the midlands
- South Yorkshire is in the north, Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire are in the midlands
- Lancashire and Merseyside are in the north, Staffordshire and Shropshire are in the midlands
Which always left Cheshire for endless debate - although the map (see below) would suggest it is in line with Lincs/Derbs/Notts so should be classed as the Midlands.
As for the Midlands to South divide everyone agreed Staffs/Shrops/Derbys/Notts/Lincs (as mentioned) are in the Midlands, plus Leicestershire, Warwickshire, Worcestershire and Herefordshire.
Then one school of thought was that the divide was from the Wash to the Avon, which would mean just the counties named above were the Midlands and everything else was 'the South'.
The second school of thought was that if you look at the map and determine Warwickshire (with Birmingham in the middle) was the true heart of the Midlands, then in addition to those above so Northants, Norfolk, Cambridgeshire and Suffolk should be classed as the Midlands.
I would often then get asked whether I thought I was from the midlands or the south - and when I said neither, I'd always classed myself as East Anglian then everyone would laugh and make some sort of comment that this was no different to being 'welsh' - which to be honest I was fine with because I didn't really fancy being classed as either a midlander or a southerner.
You would also always get some Geordie (including my missus) or some Scot who would say that everyone was a Southerner, even those from Yorkshire...
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This reminds me of a debate I had at uni with a Mackem. He was so passionate about the fact that he felt Manchester was in the midlands he fell out with us for days about it. | | | |
| Whereabouts does ‘the north’ become ‘the north?’ on 10:05 - Apr 22 with 919 views | Kropotkin123 |
| Whereabouts does ‘the north’ become ‘the north?’ on 09:15 - Apr 22 by Darth_Koont |
Think this is a good stab at it. Showing the North, the Midlands and the disputed territories.
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Funny how they assume Northumbria is independent of England, but East Anglia (Also a kingdom at the same time) remains apart of England.
Think we need to do one for East Anglia, as their disputed territories are definitely a land grab!
EDIT: Not sure how to get this as a image on my phone. But this should be the basis of our claims
https://www.reddit.com/r/imaginarymaps/comments/6exmjl/the_kingdom_of_east_angli
I feel that all of the fens should be cores, even though they weren't historically. [Post edited 22 Apr 2021 10:30]
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| Whereabouts does ‘the north’ become ‘the north?’ on 10:06 - Apr 22 with 916 views | mrshallisfit |
Somewhere between Gislingham and Rickinghall Inferior. | | | |
| Whereabouts does ‘the north’ become ‘the north?’ on 10:07 - Apr 22 with 916 views | ChiefXL |
Anything north of London Road |  | | |
| Whereabouts does ‘the north’ become ‘the north?’ on 10:11 - Apr 22 with 912 views | nodge_blue |
I thought it was the Wash down to the bristol channel as a sort of dividing line |  |
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| Whereabouts does ‘the north’ become ‘the north?’ on 10:13 - Apr 22 with 909 views | ipswich78 |
| Whereabouts does ‘the north’ become ‘the north?’ on 21:55 - Apr 21 by Ftnfwest |
Watford gap services |
This is the correct answer. |  |
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| Whereabouts does ‘the north’ become ‘the north?’ on 10:23 - Apr 22 with 894 views | Darth_Koont |
| Whereabouts does ‘the north’ become ‘the north?’ on 10:05 - Apr 22 by Kropotkin123 |
Funny how they assume Northumbria is independent of England, but East Anglia (Also a kingdom at the same time) remains apart of England.
Think we need to do one for East Anglia, as their disputed territories are definitely a land grab!
EDIT: Not sure how to get this as a image on my phone. But this should be the basis of our claims
https://www.reddit.com/r/imaginarymaps/comments/6exmjl/the_kingdom_of_east_angli
I feel that all of the fens should be cores, even though they weren't historically. [Post edited 22 Apr 2021 10:30]
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Fill your boots. But maybe an independent Suffolk is the best option?
Otherwise, you seem to be caught between teaming up with the scum or being London’s yokel cousin. | |
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| Whereabouts does ‘the north’ become ‘the north?’ on 10:26 - Apr 22 with 881 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
| Whereabouts does ‘the north’ become ‘the north?’ on 10:23 - Apr 22 by Darth_Koont |
Fill your boots. But maybe an independent Suffolk is the best option?
Otherwise, you seem to be caught between teaming up with the scum or being London’s yokel cousin. |
I would like Suffolk to become a Scottish enclave. |  |
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| Whereabouts does ‘the north’ become ‘the north?’ on 10:34 - Apr 22 with 861 views | Darth_Koont |
| Whereabouts does ‘the north’ become ‘the north?’ on 10:26 - Apr 22 by Tangledupin_Blue |
I would like Suffolk to become a Scottish enclave. |
Not sure there’s much demand for a “Dundee of the South”. I’d make Suffolk an offshoot of the Netherlands – you’ve got the landscape and the funny accents just need to decriminalise some drugs. | |
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| Whereabouts does ‘the north’ become ‘the north?’ on 10:40 - Apr 22 with 851 views | solemio |
Yes. of course Cardiff is in the north! I'm sure all the folk in Hereford consider themselves northeners. [Post edited 22 Apr 2021 10:43]
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| Whereabouts does ‘the north’ become ‘the north?’ on 10:45 - Apr 22 with 841 views | The_Major |
Road signs for The NORTH start at Trafalgar Square and then keep going all the way up the A1 and later also the M6, and are still going strong in Glasgow and Edinburgh, but I suppose there's still another 250 miles of Scotland left.
You seem to get the signs for all directions, but very rarely do you see "The EAST" - the only time I can remember seeing one is on that lunatic motorway that goes through the middle of Newcastle. Which is notable because if you're in Newcastle, there's only about ten miles of "east" left, unless there's a secret tunnel between North Shields and Oslo. [Post edited 22 Apr 2021 10:48]
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| Whereabouts does ‘the north’ become ‘the north?’ on 10:45 - Apr 22 with 840 views | solemio |
| Whereabouts does ‘the north’ become ‘the north?’ on 10:11 - Apr 22 by nodge_blue |
I thought it was the Wash down to the bristol channel as a sort of dividing line |
It is indeed a dividing line of sorts, but not between north and south. | | | |
| Whereabouts does ‘the north’ become ‘the north?’ on 10:58 - Apr 22 with 821 views | giant_stow |
| Whereabouts does ‘the north’ become ‘the north?’ on 10:45 - Apr 22 by solemio |
It is indeed a dividing line of sorts, but not between north and south. |
I'm afraid you're wrong.
Another way of thinking of that Wash/Bristol line is to imagine places where a typical Londoner feels at home. Personally, I can smell the north kick in on the M1 just south of Luton, so its wobbly line, granted, but very clear. |  |
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| Whereabouts does ‘the north’ become ‘the north?’ on 11:01 - Apr 22 with 817 views | solemio |
| Whereabouts does ‘the north’ become ‘the north?’ on 10:58 - Apr 22 by giant_stow |
I'm afraid you're wrong.
Another way of thinking of that Wash/Bristol line is to imagine places where a typical Londoner feels at home. Personally, I can smell the north kick in on the M1 just south of Luton, so its wobbly line, granted, but very clear. |
If I'm wrong - and of course I'm not - it's a first ever.
My friend in Selsey thinks Londoners are northerners. | | | |
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