| They are crap Paul, we get it 00:34 - Apr 25 with 10586 views | 3_5_2 |
You have made your point in every way possible and you are telling us what we have all suspected for years, they are a weak bunch mentally, not fit and lack the ability to do the basics.
Head own lad, fcuk off the ones you don’t want and work with those you do
Get your backroom staff in and hammer the transfer market nice and early. Good pre season and see where are.
We get it, we really do but enough is enough with the moaning |  |
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| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:22 - Apr 25 with 1312 views | haynes_toe1 |
| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:20 - Apr 25 by Guthrum |
I'm a big fan of Chambers and Skuse, plus thinking Bishop has been very unfortunate with injuries. But, other than longevity, I fail to see what their significant on-field achievements have been - beyond a single failed play-off campaign over five years ago. |
Of course. And multiple midtable championship finishes which we are currently desperate to try and get back to.
But to sh*t on all these players as fans yet put Cook up on a pedestal makes no sense. Like I say, even a championshop play off finish is a million miles away from what Cook has offered in his ITFC career to date. |  | | |
| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:26 - Apr 25 with 1311 views | noggin |
| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:22 - Apr 25 by haynes_toe1 |
Of course. And multiple midtable championship finishes which we are currently desperate to try and get back to.
But to sh*t on all these players as fans yet put Cook up on a pedestal makes no sense. Like I say, even a championshop play off finish is a million miles away from what Cook has offered in his ITFC career to date. |
Who is putting Cook on a pedestal? We have simply appreciated his honesty regarding the attitude of the players. |  |
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| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:27 - Apr 25 with 1305 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:17 - Apr 25 by pointofblue |
To be fair they helped us to the Championship play offs so he’s right in that respect. However that’s the past and we need to look to the future; only one of them probably has a chance of being part of that - on the pitch, at least. |
But these players have been here years, Cook's only been here 6 weeks. The amount of time they've been here I'd expect them to have a achieved a bit more than one 6th placed finish.
It's just a ludicrous comparison anyway. I'VE done more for the club than Cook has as I've been shovelling money into for years, but so what? What does his post even mean? |  |
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| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:28 - Apr 25 with 1304 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:18 - Apr 25 by haynes_toe1 |
You mean honest. And objective. And dont act like a 14 year old girl chasing a crush when a new manager comes in.
You can go on ignore, in my entire time here you've not actually been able to make a footballing comment, just pathetic jibes to try and cope with the fact you're clearly emotionally desperate in the big harsh real world. On here you can try and act the bully but its cringe. |
Grow up, mate. | |
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| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:31 - Apr 25 with 1299 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:19 - Apr 25 by NeedhamChris |
It’s pretty irrelevant but he’s not wrong. Whether that will be true in the future is really what we’re all debating about. |
It's a stupid and pointless comparison. The woman who works on reception has done more for the club than Cook. So what? I fail to understand what point he's making. | |
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| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:31 - Apr 25 with 1300 views | Guthrum |
| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:22 - Apr 25 by haynes_toe1 |
Of course. And multiple midtable championship finishes which we are currently desperate to try and get back to.
But to sh*t on all these players as fans yet put Cook up on a pedestal makes no sense. Like I say, even a championshop play off finish is a million miles away from what Cook has offered in his ITFC career to date. |
Cook has been at the club less than eight weeks, with the club in a poor state and not in the Championship. How much did you expect him to achieve in that time? |  |
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| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:31 - Apr 25 with 1297 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:20 - Apr 25 by Guthrum |
I'm a big fan of Chambers and Skuse, plus thinking Bishop has been very unfortunate with injuries. But, other than longevity, I fail to see what their significant on-field achievements have been - beyond a single failed play-off campaign over five years ago. |
Well, quite. | |
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| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:32 - Apr 25 with 1294 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:22 - Apr 25 by haynes_toe1 |
Of course. And multiple midtable championship finishes which we are currently desperate to try and get back to.
But to sh*t on all these players as fans yet put Cook up on a pedestal makes no sense. Like I say, even a championshop play off finish is a million miles away from what Cook has offered in his ITFC career to date. |
HE HASN'T HAD AN ITFC CAREER. HE'S BEEN HERE 7 WEEKS. [Post edited 25 Apr 2021 9:34]
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| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:33 - Apr 25 with 1289 views | Guthrum |
| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:22 - Apr 25 by haynes_toe1 |
Of course. And multiple midtable championship finishes which we are currently desperate to try and get back to.
But to sh*t on all these players as fans yet put Cook up on a pedestal makes no sense. Like I say, even a championshop play off finish is a million miles away from what Cook has offered in his ITFC career to date. |
Also, against those mid-table finishes can be set relegation to the third tier for the first time in 60 years. | |
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| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:38 - Apr 25 with 1259 views | pointofblue |
| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:31 - Apr 25 by Guthrum |
Cook has been at the club less than eight weeks, with the club in a poor state and not in the Championship. How much did you expect him to achieve in that time? |
In fairness, a play off bid? | |
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| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:39 - Apr 25 with 1252 views | NeedhamChris |
| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:31 - Apr 25 by Guthrum |
Cook has been at the club less than eight weeks, with the club in a poor state and not in the Championship. How much did you expect him to achieve in that time? |
How about building on a five game unbeaten run and having an actual run at the playoffs?
Or alternatively, scoring a goal in the last 6 games | |
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| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:40 - Apr 25 with 1244 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:38 - Apr 25 by pointofblue |
In fairness, a play off bid? |
But if he hasn't got the tools, how's he going to do that? | |
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| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:40 - Apr 25 with 1243 views | NeedhamChris |
| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:38 - Apr 25 by pointofblue |
In fairness, a play off bid? |
Sorry downvoted in error - but yes, exactly. | |
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| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:41 - Apr 25 with 1241 views | NeedhamChris |
| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:40 - Apr 25 by The_Flashing_Smile |
But if he hasn't got the tools, how's he going to do that? |
Lambert/Gill were managing it on a higher PPG than Cook by some distance. The tools haven’t changed | |
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| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:41 - Apr 25 with 1231 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:39 - Apr 25 by NeedhamChris |
How about building on a five game unbeaten run and having an actual run at the playoffs?
Or alternatively, scoring a goal in the last 6 games |
You think it's Cook's fault we haven't scored a goal? Which dazzling hitman has he been leaving out? | |
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| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:43 - Apr 25 with 1220 views | NeedhamChris |
| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:41 - Apr 25 by The_Flashing_Smile |
You think it's Cook's fault we haven't scored a goal? Which dazzling hitman has he been leaving out? |
Well yea, I do. I still think a football manager is responsible for setting a team up to score goals. | |
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| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:44 - Apr 25 with 1210 views | haynes_toe1 |
| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:31 - Apr 25 by Guthrum |
Cook has been at the club less than eight weeks, with the club in a poor state and not in the Championship. How much did you expect him to achieve in that time? |
Just a couple of decent performances would have been a good start. Or, absolute minimum, matching Lamberts PPG and performances under him.. | | | |
| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:44 - Apr 25 with 1204 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:06 - Apr 25 by haynes_toe1 |
Chambers, Bishop and Skuse for starters have all done far more for this club than Cook. |
1 play off campaign in 10 years?
Yeah they've done loads. |  |
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| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:45 - Apr 25 with 1194 views | NeedhamChris |
| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:44 - Apr 25 by haynes_toe1 |
Just a couple of decent performances would have been a good start. Or, absolute minimum, matching Lamberts PPG and performances under him.. |
When you say absolute minimum, lamberts PPG would have us in the top 6 | |
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| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:45 - Apr 25 with 1193 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:41 - Apr 25 by NeedhamChris |
Lambert/Gill were managing it on a higher PPG than Cook by some distance. The tools haven’t changed |
Lambert had been here 2.5 years. The players were drilled in his way of playing (and even then they were still pretty abject). 3 wins at the end of Lambert's tenure and now suddenly he's a great manager?!?
I know people have short memories but this is getting silly now. Lambert was the worst manager in our history according to most on here only a few weeks ago. Cook picks up the dross he left behind and is expected to immediately get more out of them than Lambert did in 2.5 years?!? | |
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| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:46 - Apr 25 with 1188 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:43 - Apr 25 by NeedhamChris |
Well yea, I do. I still think a football manager is responsible for setting a team up to score goals. |
We don't have any goalscoring strikers. How is that Cook's fault? | |
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| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:47 - Apr 25 with 1174 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:44 - Apr 25 by BlueandTruesince82 |
1 play off campaign in 10 years?
Yeah they've done loads. |
We should probably have statues put up for those 3. | |
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| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:49 - Apr 25 with 1160 views | pointofblue |
| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:40 - Apr 25 by The_Flashing_Smile |
But if he hasn't got the tools, how's he going to do that? |
It’s like a hole in my bucket, isn’t it? Lambert and Gill got these tools (use the word as you wish) to within two points of the play offs at the time of Cook’s arrival, averaging 1.7 points per game. Cook’s response has been to drag us down to 0.92 points per game. There are extenuating circumstances, yes, but did ANY of us expect such a decline after the managerial change if we’re completely honest with ourselves? Cook himself didn’t.
This is not saying Cook out, anything but as he needs time, but we were in a good position for a play off pitch with the same players at our disposal and we’ve failed miserably to execute it. Now we wait hopefully for a summer of change. | |
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| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:50 - Apr 25 with 1156 views | NeedhamChris |
| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:45 - Apr 25 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Lambert had been here 2.5 years. The players were drilled in his way of playing (and even then they were still pretty abject). 3 wins at the end of Lambert's tenure and now suddenly he's a great manager?!?
I know people have short memories but this is getting silly now. Lambert was the worst manager in our history according to most on here only a few weeks ago. Cook picks up the dross he left behind and is expected to immediately get more out of them than Lambert did in 2.5 years?!? |
You don't have to exaggerate to make a point. Where has anyone said that Lambert is a great manager? Oh, they haven't - you're just being overly dramatic.
It is fine to accept that Lambert was not a good manager, whilst also believing that Cook is (so far!!) performing worse.
Also, you write off the 3 wins but that is the form that Cook was inheriting, not the results of 2 years ago. | |
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| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:51 - Apr 25 with 1153 views | stantheman |
| They are crap Paul, we get it on 09:15 - Apr 25 by The_Flashing_Smile |
hahahaha
You're fooking desperate mate. |
The facts that Chambers, Skuse and Bishop have all been good players for Town is undeniable. The other 47 squad players is another kettle of fish entirely. I don't think any of them, other than maybe Downes, are worth anything. |  | | |
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