| EU being silly over vaccines again 11:18 - Apr 26 with 5728 views | Pinewoodblue |
A French company , Valneva,, have failed to reach an agreement with regards to their Covid vaccine currently at phase 3 trial level.
The reason being they will not agree to all the condition the EU want to impose. Basically it is a repeat of what happened with AZ. UK government signed up for 100m doses last September and assisted financially in the development, and building of the plant in Scotland.
We have priority on order fulfillment.
https://valneva.com/press-release/valneva-switches-focus-to-bilateral-discussion
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| EU being silly over vaccines again on 12:13 - Apr 26 with 2561 views | CrockerITFC |
They've just bought 1.8 billion doses of Pfizer, they should be ok for a while |  | | |
| EU being silly over vaccines again on 12:42 - Apr 26 with 2500 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
Apparently the UK govt rolled out the red carpet when they started working on it, basically said what do you need?
France did not. |  |
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| EU being silly over vaccines again on 12:51 - Apr 26 with 2470 views | Pinewoodblue |
| EU being silly over vaccines again on 12:42 - Apr 26 by BlueandTruesince82 |
Apparently the UK govt rolled out the red carpet when they started working on it, basically said what do you need?
France did not. |
EU admit they were too cautious having one eye on the cost.
Strange how the UK approach to vaccine expenditure is lauded while it really isn’t any different to the approach to the urgent need for PPE. Only difference I suppose is none of their chums could jump on the vaccine bandwagon. | |
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| EU being silly over vaccines again on 12:52 - Apr 26 with 2453 views | m14_blue |
| EU being silly over vaccines again on 12:51 - Apr 26 by Pinewoodblue |
EU admit they were too cautious having one eye on the cost.
Strange how the UK approach to vaccine expenditure is lauded while it really isn’t any different to the approach to the urgent need for PPE. Only difference I suppose is none of their chums could jump on the vaccine bandwagon. |
Because it worked. |  | | |
| EU being silly over vaccines again on 12:57 - Apr 26 with 2424 views | footers |
| EU being silly over vaccines again on 12:52 - Apr 26 by m14_blue |
Because it worked. |
And they didn't ask a bus driver with zero previous experience to develop the vaccine.
It's an odd approach but it seems to have worked out well. |  |
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| EU being silly over vaccines again on 13:08 - Apr 26 with 2332 views | J2BLUE |
The UK government deserve huge credit for the vaccine rollout. People can say they don't but they clearly do.
Obviously they also deserve huge criticism for almost everything else. Lack of preparedness and PPE is unforgivable.
Hopefully the UK can now be a grown up at the table and try and help the EU out. If we have much more than we can use we should be sending it to the poorest countries but helping the EU out would go a long way in showing we are still a friend and ally. Not everything needs to be some petty point scoring Brexit justification. |  |
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| EU being silly over vaccines again on 13:20 - Apr 26 with 2290 views | Tonytown |
| EU being silly over vaccines again on 13:08 - Apr 26 by J2BLUE |
The UK government deserve huge credit for the vaccine rollout. People can say they don't but they clearly do.
Obviously they also deserve huge criticism for almost everything else. Lack of preparedness and PPE is unforgivable.
Hopefully the UK can now be a grown up at the table and try and help the EU out. If we have much more than we can use we should be sending it to the poorest countries but helping the EU out would go a long way in showing we are still a friend and ally. Not everything needs to be some petty point scoring Brexit justification. |
Sadly, for most of the Tory party, it is all about Brexit point scoring. | | | |
| EU being silly over vaccines again on 13:25 - Apr 26 with 2271 views | Pinewoodblue |
| EU being silly over vaccines again on 13:20 - Apr 26 by Tonytown |
Sadly, for most of the Tory party, it is all about Brexit point scoring. |
Attitudes towards Brexit are changing. Didn’t UEFA spokesman , when approving of the way fans and government condemned ESL suggested Brexit ( freedom) was part of the reason. | |
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| EU being silly over vaccines again on 13:27 - Apr 26 with 2255 views | J2BLUE |
| EU being silly over vaccines again on 13:25 - Apr 26 by Pinewoodblue |
Attitudes towards Brexit are changing. Didn’t UEFA spokesman , when approving of the way fans and government condemned ESL suggested Brexit ( freedom) was part of the reason. |
The EU condemnend it as well. Brexit had nothing to do with it. | |
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| EU being silly over vaccines again on 13:30 - Apr 26 with 2244 views | clive_baker |
I think after 5 years of overly positive EU sentiment in our media we're now all minded to be surprised by any failings by the EU, but the reality is they're all as inept, bent and self serving as each other. Feck them all.
That's not to say we were right to leave the Union though, I still make that an utterly idiotic decision. |  |
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| EU being silly over vaccines again on 13:34 - Apr 26 with 2208 views | EdwardStone |
| EU being silly over vaccines again on 13:08 - Apr 26 by J2BLUE |
The UK government deserve huge credit for the vaccine rollout. People can say they don't but they clearly do.
Obviously they also deserve huge criticism for almost everything else. Lack of preparedness and PPE is unforgivable.
Hopefully the UK can now be a grown up at the table and try and help the EU out. If we have much more than we can use we should be sending it to the poorest countries but helping the EU out would go a long way in showing we are still a friend and ally. Not everything needs to be some petty point scoring Brexit justification. |
The Govt. were gambling with our money, virtually unlimited
I suggest that it is remarkably easy to back a winner when you have almost infinite funds available....just bang an each-way on every runner
So no kudos to those dribbling half-wits in Govt from this household |  | | |
| EU being silly over vaccines again on 13:35 - Apr 26 with 2206 views | Pinewoodblue |
| EU being silly over vaccines again on 13:30 - Apr 26 by clive_baker |
I think after 5 years of overly positive EU sentiment in our media we're now all minded to be surprised by any failings by the EU, but the reality is they're all as inept, bent and self serving as each other. Feck them all.
That's not to say we were right to leave the Union though, I still make that an utterly idiotic decision. |
The idiotic decision was to let the people decide. Can you imagine if the next manager of Town was decided by a fans vote? | |
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| EU being silly over vaccines again on 13:36 - Apr 26 with 2193 views | clive_baker |
| EU being silly over vaccines again on 13:34 - Apr 26 by EdwardStone |
The Govt. were gambling with our money, virtually unlimited
I suggest that it is remarkably easy to back a winner when you have almost infinite funds available....just bang an each-way on every runner
So no kudos to those dribbling half-wits in Govt from this household |
Agreed. Also the rollout is more a reflection on the NHS that the government. | |
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| EU being silly over vaccines again on 13:37 - Apr 26 with 2178 views | clive_baker |
| EU being silly over vaccines again on 13:35 - Apr 26 by Pinewoodblue |
The idiotic decision was to let the people decide. Can you imagine if the next manager of Town was decided by a fans vote? |
Well yeah, there is that. It's no way to run a country and Cameron has a lot to answer for.
Although in our case, I can't imagine we would be much worse off had our fans been given a vote. | |
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| EU being silly over vaccines again on 13:40 - Apr 26 with 2150 views | J2BLUE |
| EU being silly over vaccines again on 13:34 - Apr 26 by EdwardStone |
The Govt. were gambling with our money, virtually unlimited
I suggest that it is remarkably easy to back a winner when you have almost infinite funds available....just bang an each-way on every runner
So no kudos to those dribbling half-wits in Govt from this household |
Bit simplistic IMO.
How did the EU fail then? Relatively. I know they also backed a few winners but nowhere near the level of depth and detail that the UK contracts had. | |
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| EU being silly over vaccines again on 13:41 - Apr 26 with 2151 views | jaykay |
| EU being silly over vaccines again on 13:08 - Apr 26 by J2BLUE |
The UK government deserve huge credit for the vaccine rollout. People can say they don't but they clearly do.
Obviously they also deserve huge criticism for almost everything else. Lack of preparedness and PPE is unforgivable.
Hopefully the UK can now be a grown up at the table and try and help the EU out. If we have much more than we can use we should be sending it to the poorest countries but helping the EU out would go a long way in showing we are still a friend and ally. Not everything needs to be some petty point scoring Brexit justification. |
strange it the government vaccine roll out and n.h.s. test and trace |  |
| forensic experts say footers and spruces fingerprints were not found at the scene after the weekends rows |
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| EU being silly over vaccines again on 13:45 - Apr 26 with 2119 views | Pinewoodblue |
| EU being silly over vaccines again on 13:34 - Apr 26 by EdwardStone |
The Govt. were gambling with our money, virtually unlimited
I suggest that it is remarkably easy to back a winner when you have almost infinite funds available....just bang an each-way on every runner
So no kudos to those dribbling half-wits in Govt from this household |
Almost a role reversal, a conservative government throwing money at a problem in the best interests of all of us while the more socialist EU adopts a more conservative approach holding back rather than throw good money after bad. We all know vaccine development takes years and no guarantee of a successful result.
On the subject of vaccine I know a guy who recently retired having spent his whole working life into finding a way of defeating malaria. | |
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| EU being silly over vaccines again on 13:48 - Apr 26 with 2085 views | J2BLUE |
| EU being silly over vaccines again on 13:41 - Apr 26 by jaykay |
strange it the government vaccine roll out and n.h.s. test and trace |
Not for me it isn't but don't let that stop you.
Feel free to go back and read my posts where i've made a point in virtually all of them to equally credit the NHS and armed forces for the vaccines.
I am not a Tory. I just see things how they are IMO. My list of criticisms is much longer than my list (single line) of praise.
I did not vote for them at the last election and I won't vote for them at the next election. | |
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| EU being silly over vaccines again on 13:51 - Apr 26 with 2067 views | EdwardStone |
| EU being silly over vaccines again on 13:45 - Apr 26 by Pinewoodblue |
Almost a role reversal, a conservative government throwing money at a problem in the best interests of all of us while the more socialist EU adopts a more conservative approach holding back rather than throw good money after bad. We all know vaccine development takes years and no guarantee of a successful result.
On the subject of vaccine I know a guy who recently retired having spent his whole working life into finding a way of defeating malaria. |
The scientists who developed, and indeed continue to develop, the vaccines deserve a huge amount of respect. I genuinely believed that it couldn't be done
I suppose if you install a chancer in No 10 then he will.....take chances
I wonder if T May would have been quite so gung-ho with the public purse? | | | |
| EU being silly over vaccines again on 13:55 - Apr 26 with 2043 views | factual_blue |
| EU being silly over vaccines again on 13:08 - Apr 26 by J2BLUE |
The UK government deserve huge credit for the vaccine rollout. People can say they don't but they clearly do.
Obviously they also deserve huge criticism for almost everything else. Lack of preparedness and PPE is unforgivable.
Hopefully the UK can now be a grown up at the table and try and help the EU out. If we have much more than we can use we should be sending it to the poorest countries but helping the EU out would go a long way in showing we are still a friend and ally. Not everything needs to be some petty point scoring Brexit justification. |
And as I've pointed out to you before, the government have had no part in the administrative task of delivering the vaccine programme. A government (ie the Cabinet) makes political decisions, they don't carry out administrative tasks, or even play any meaningful role in them.
In the vaccine roll-out programme the Cabinet decision will have been 'do we vaccinate people or not'.
A bit of a no-brainer, so they managed to get the decision right.
The credit you look to give is to the NHS, Local Authority and Civil Service staff who between them have made the delivery programme work. |  |
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| EU being silly over vaccines again on 13:56 - Apr 26 with 2032 views | usm |
| EU being silly over vaccines again on 13:08 - Apr 26 by J2BLUE |
The UK government deserve huge credit for the vaccine rollout. People can say they don't but they clearly do.
Obviously they also deserve huge criticism for almost everything else. Lack of preparedness and PPE is unforgivable.
Hopefully the UK can now be a grown up at the table and try and help the EU out. If we have much more than we can use we should be sending it to the poorest countries but helping the EU out would go a long way in showing we are still a friend and ally. Not everything needs to be some petty point scoring Brexit justification. |
Youve forgotten the rules, J2.
Rule 1. Anything the Tories do or say is bad.
Rule 2. There are no more rules. |  |
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| EU being silly over vaccines again on 13:59 - Apr 26 with 2006 views | WD19 |
| EU being silly over vaccines again on 13:20 - Apr 26 by Tonytown |
Sadly, for most of the Tory party, it is all about Brexit point scoring. |
Yeah, you would never catch anyone on here Brexit point scoring. Not ever. |  | | |
| EU being silly over vaccines again on 14:01 - Apr 26 with 1989 views | J2BLUE |
| EU being silly over vaccines again on 13:55 - Apr 26 by factual_blue |
And as I've pointed out to you before, the government have had no part in the administrative task of delivering the vaccine programme. A government (ie the Cabinet) makes political decisions, they don't carry out administrative tasks, or even play any meaningful role in them.
In the vaccine roll-out programme the Cabinet decision will have been 'do we vaccinate people or not'.
A bit of a no-brainer, so they managed to get the decision right.
The credit you look to give is to the NHS, Local Authority and Civil Service staff who between them have made the delivery programme work. |
And i've credited them repeatedly. | |
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| EU being silly over vaccines again on 14:02 - Apr 26 with 1994 views | footers |
| EU being silly over vaccines again on 13:59 - Apr 26 by WD19 |
Yeah, you would never catch anyone on here Brexit point scoring. Not ever. |
Difference being that none of us run the country and represent us internationally, innit. | |
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| EU being silly over vaccines again on 14:03 - Apr 26 with 1989 views | longtimefan |
| EU being silly over vaccines again on 13:55 - Apr 26 by factual_blue |
And as I've pointed out to you before, the government have had no part in the administrative task of delivering the vaccine programme. A government (ie the Cabinet) makes political decisions, they don't carry out administrative tasks, or even play any meaningful role in them.
In the vaccine roll-out programme the Cabinet decision will have been 'do we vaccinate people or not'.
A bit of a no-brainer, so they managed to get the decision right.
The credit you look to give is to the NHS, Local Authority and Civil Service staff who between them have made the delivery programme work. |
So the government are in no way responsible for the test and trace farce then? By your measure its simply a question of “do we test and trace or not” | | | |
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