| Ward 13:35 - May 5 with 2079 views | clive_baker |
Is he injured? Bit odd to give him the arm band for a few games and then bin him out of the 18. I notice he's played 29 times, perhaps there's some sort of financial trigger at 30 appearances?
Not a massive deal, as I would be incredibly surprised if he was kept on for next season.
It's starting to become pretty obvious who will and won't be here after June, for me the only senior ones that are a little uncertain are:
Edwards
Bishop
Nsiala
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| Ward on 13:36 - May 5 with 1782 views | footers |
I thought he'd departed already? |  |
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| Ward on 13:37 - May 5 with 1778 views | chrismakin |
I think it could be he trusted Ward more than kenlock and whilst we were still in with a chance of play offs he kept using him, as soon as it was over, no needs to play him and take the risks of injury etc.. |  |
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| Ward on 13:40 - May 5 with 1744 views | positivity |
| Ward on 13:37 - May 5 by chrismakin |
I think it could be he trusted Ward more than kenlock and whilst we were still in with a chance of play offs he kept using him, as soon as it was over, no needs to play him and take the risks of injury etc.. |
on the match preview yesterday it was saying that he couldn't play again without triggering a new contract (as with judge).
kenlock's playing much better anyway... |  |
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| Ward on 13:41 - May 5 with 1733 views | chrismakin |
| Ward on 13:40 - May 5 by positivity |
on the match preview yesterday it was saying that he couldn't play again without triggering a new contract (as with judge).
kenlock's playing much better anyway... |
oh i see, carry on lol | |
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| Ward on 13:45 - May 5 with 1685 views | clive_baker |
| Ward on 13:40 - May 5 by positivity |
on the match preview yesterday it was saying that he couldn't play again without triggering a new contract (as with judge).
kenlock's playing much better anyway... |
Makes sense. Glad someone’s on the ball. | |
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| Ward on 13:47 - May 5 with 1665 views | El_Fenix |
Offered odds of evens, I would take Edwards to leave and Nsiala to stay. Having no inside information I would not place a bet either way on Bishop. |  |
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| Ward on 13:49 - May 5 with 1647 views | itfcjoe |
I don't see that Nsiala is uncertain, bearing in mind he is fit and not playing.
Wilson is injured, so would put him in the uncertain pile with Edwards and Bishop personally.
Think bishop will stay, and Edwards we'll make an offer to that he will turn down
I think you have hit nail on head re Ward's 29 starts |  |
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| Ward on 13:57 - May 5 with 1558 views | urbanblue |
| Ward on 13:49 - May 5 by itfcjoe |
I don't see that Nsiala is uncertain, bearing in mind he is fit and not playing.
Wilson is injured, so would put him in the uncertain pile with Edwards and Bishop personally.
Think bishop will stay, and Edwards we'll make an offer to that he will turn down
I think you have hit nail on head re Ward's 29 starts |
I agree. I think all those that are fit and not playing are outa there. The club probably protecting them from getting injured so that they can find new clubs. Also think that was the reason for no subs last night. |  | | |
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| Ward on 14:00 - May 5 with 1530 views | Keaneish |
I think it was simply a seniority call. There was a point in that game when either Dozzell or Fownes were pushing forward with the ball and looked for a pass from an overlapping full back - Ward was nowhere to be seen and took an age to come into shot.
No doubt he’s off if he hasn’t already gone. |  |
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| Ward on 14:04 - May 5 with 1508 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
Edwards is gone surely? We have no option, he's out of contract and had Championship interest in the past. Not sure he'd be staying even if we wanted him to |  |
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| Ward on 14:06 - May 5 with 1497 views | MrTown |
I actually think Myles Kenlock has done well this season, and again he showed last night another decent performance.
We certainly need another left back, I'll keep banging the drum for Tom Pearce.
Edwards, Nsiala and Bishop can all depart for me. [Post edited 5 May 2021 14:07]
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| Ward on 14:08 - May 5 with 1476 views | MrTown |
| Ward on 14:04 - May 5 by BlueandTruesince82 |
Edwards is gone surely? We have no option, he's out of contract and had Championship interest in the past. Not sure he'd be staying even if we wanted him to |
I hope so, I'll drive him to any Championship club in the country.
Not good enough, hope he turns down our offer and goes elsewhere. [Post edited 5 May 2021 14:08]
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| Ward on 14:11 - May 5 with 1452 views | clive_baker |
| Ward on 13:47 - May 5 by El_Fenix |
Offered odds of evens, I would take Edwards to leave and Nsiala to stay. Having no inside information I would not place a bet either way on Bishop. |
I have a sneaky suspicion Toto will stay, on the basis Chambers and Wilson will both move on, and he'll keep Toto around as cover. I get to this at the moment:
Stay: Woolfenden, Downes, Dozzell, KVY, Nolan, Dobra, Nydam, Norwood, Kenlock.
Leave immediately: Parrott, Harrop, Matheson, Chambers, Thomas, Jackson, McGuinness, Bennetts, Drinan, Wilson, Sears, Skuse, Ward, Huws.
Contracted but free to leave: Holy, Hawkins, Cornell, Lankester
TBC: Edwards, Bishop, Toto
That 'in the bin' list is massive. Must be £2m per year of wages there.
Edited to give Kenny a stay of execution. [Post edited 5 May 2021 15:57]
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| Ward on 14:12 - May 5 with 1437 views | BlueBadger |
| Ward on 14:08 - May 5 by MrTown |
I hope so, I'll drive him to any Championship club in the country.
Not good enough, hope he turns down our offer and goes elsewhere. [Post edited 5 May 2021 14:08]
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Literally no Championship club in the land is signing Edwards.
Not unless they're Jewson Championship sides. |  |
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| Ward on 14:17 - May 5 with 1403 views | MrTown |
| Ward on 14:12 - May 5 by BlueBadger |
Literally no Championship club in the land is signing Edwards.
Not unless they're Jewson Championship sides. |
No one should sign Edwards, that doesn't mean no one will.
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| Ward on 14:19 - May 5 with 1379 views | OsborneOneNil |
| Ward on 14:11 - May 5 by clive_baker |
I have a sneaky suspicion Toto will stay, on the basis Chambers and Wilson will both move on, and he'll keep Toto around as cover. I get to this at the moment:
Stay: Woolfenden, Downes, Dozzell, KVY, Nolan, Dobra, Nydam, Norwood, Kenlock.
Leave immediately: Parrott, Harrop, Matheson, Chambers, Thomas, Jackson, McGuinness, Bennetts, Drinan, Wilson, Sears, Skuse, Ward, Huws.
Contracted but free to leave: Holy, Hawkins, Cornell, Lankester
TBC: Edwards, Bishop, Toto
That 'in the bin' list is massive. Must be £2m per year of wages there.
Edited to give Kenny a stay of execution. [Post edited 5 May 2021 15:57]
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I'd settle for that outcome, tbf. Maybe a slight 'sigh' for Bish........still love him to succeed here. |  | | |
| Ward on 14:23 - May 5 with 1361 views | Kieran_Knows |
If we're honestly thinking of keeping Nsiala around, this club has learnt nothing. |  |
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| Ward on 14:38 - May 5 with 1297 views | chrismakin |
| Ward on 14:06 - May 5 by MrTown |
I actually think Myles Kenlock has done well this season, and again he showed last night another decent performance.
We certainly need another left back, I'll keep banging the drum for Tom Pearce.
Edwards, Nsiala and Bishop can all depart for me. [Post edited 5 May 2021 14:07]
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Kenlock showed last night why for 70 minutes he can be a first teamer
then 10 minutes not even good enough for conference
then 10 minutes reserve team football
So frustating, does some really positive things with the ball, provided some great width, overlap opportunities, and then showed he loves a sideline pass out of play, giving it straight to the oposition in the midfield, and went walk abouts at times.
If he was 19 with all the time to get the right coaching, He'd be brilliant, but he's now on 100 apperences and still hasn't got the bad parts out of his game.
ideal back up player imo. | |
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| Ward on 14:44 - May 5 with 1273 views | TractorCam |
Just popped up on my phone that he's not being offered a new deal. Very strange like you say. |  |
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| Ward on 14:52 - May 5 with 1217 views | TieDyedIn95 |
| Ward on 14:38 - May 5 by chrismakin |
Kenlock showed last night why for 70 minutes he can be a first teamer
then 10 minutes not even good enough for conference
then 10 minutes reserve team football
So frustating, does some really positive things with the ball, provided some great width, overlap opportunities, and then showed he loves a sideline pass out of play, giving it straight to the oposition in the midfield, and went walk abouts at times.
If he was 19 with all the time to get the right coaching, He'd be brilliant, but he's now on 100 apperences and still hasn't got the bad parts out of his game.
ideal back up player imo. |
I'd take 70 minutes of anyone in our current team being up to at least average in this league at the moment. The problem is we have people playing for 70-80 minutes below average and getting away with it because the league is sh1te. |  |
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| Ward on 14:55 - May 5 with 1195 views | MrTown |
| Ward on 14:38 - May 5 by chrismakin |
Kenlock showed last night why for 70 minutes he can be a first teamer
then 10 minutes not even good enough for conference
then 10 minutes reserve team football
So frustating, does some really positive things with the ball, provided some great width, overlap opportunities, and then showed he loves a sideline pass out of play, giving it straight to the oposition in the midfield, and went walk abouts at times.
If he was 19 with all the time to get the right coaching, He'd be brilliant, but he's now on 100 apperences and still hasn't got the bad parts out of his game.
ideal back up player imo. |
Very rare a League 1 football will be brilliant for a full 90, there is a reason he is playing League 1 football.
But he has had a good season overall. A more than adequate back up, and would have no problem with him replacing a first choice for 10-15 games if needed.
As I said, Tom Pearce is my number left back target. | |
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| Ward on 15:31 - May 5 with 1121 views | El_Fenix |
| Ward on 14:11 - May 5 by clive_baker |
I have a sneaky suspicion Toto will stay, on the basis Chambers and Wilson will both move on, and he'll keep Toto around as cover. I get to this at the moment:
Stay: Woolfenden, Downes, Dozzell, KVY, Nolan, Dobra, Nydam, Norwood, Kenlock.
Leave immediately: Parrott, Harrop, Matheson, Chambers, Thomas, Jackson, McGuinness, Bennetts, Drinan, Wilson, Sears, Skuse, Ward, Huws.
Contracted but free to leave: Holy, Hawkins, Cornell, Lankester
TBC: Edwards, Bishop, Toto
That 'in the bin' list is massive. Must be £2m per year of wages there.
Edited to give Kenny a stay of execution. [Post edited 5 May 2021 15:57]
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I agree with your entire assessment, except for Kenlock leaving.
To begin with, I believe that Kenlock is under contract until 2022.
In addition: Kenlock is a decent left back; is confident, dynamic and effective going forward; has good positional sense when helping out his CB's; and plays with a lot of heart. He runs like an ostrich, but that is a purely cosmetic problem. He sometimes struggles against elite wingers, but that can be dealt with tactically. Unless an obviously superior replacement has already been lined up, I am confident that Paul Cook will retain Kenlock in his squad. | |
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| Ward on 15:37 - May 5 with 1077 views | clive_baker |
| Ward on 15:31 - May 5 by El_Fenix |
I agree with your entire assessment, except for Kenlock leaving.
To begin with, I believe that Kenlock is under contract until 2022.
In addition: Kenlock is a decent left back; is confident, dynamic and effective going forward; has good positional sense when helping out his CB's; and plays with a lot of heart. He runs like an ostrich, but that is a purely cosmetic problem. He sometimes struggles against elite wingers, but that can be dealt with tactically. Unless an obviously superior replacement has already been lined up, I am confident that Paul Cook will retain Kenlock in his squad. |
You're right, he has another year on his deal, so in that respect he might well hang around. The fact Cook has given him a few starts recently suggests so too, and he hasn't looked bad at all. He did a few bits really well last night. He's unorthodox at times, but he's not a bad player by any means. I don't imagine Cook will ever play a back 3, but Kenlock could be interesting cover there too, on the left hand side so he has that bit of versatility. He's ample cover at this level, but I'll be a touch surprised if he's starting at left back in Cook's back 4 next season. | |
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| Ward on 15:42 - May 5 with 1040 views | jayessess |
| Ward on 15:37 - May 5 by clive_baker |
You're right, he has another year on his deal, so in that respect he might well hang around. The fact Cook has given him a few starts recently suggests so too, and he hasn't looked bad at all. He did a few bits really well last night. He's unorthodox at times, but he's not a bad player by any means. I don't imagine Cook will ever play a back 3, but Kenlock could be interesting cover there too, on the left hand side so he has that bit of versatility. He's ample cover at this level, but I'll be a touch surprised if he's starting at left back in Cook's back 4 next season. |
Apart from anything else it's much easier to get in 1 very good new left back and tell your existing, under contract, okay left back he's got to fight for his place, than it is to deliberately recruit a reserve left back. |  |
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| Ward on 15:43 - May 5 with 1037 views | itfcjoe |
| Ward on 15:37 - May 5 by clive_baker |
You're right, he has another year on his deal, so in that respect he might well hang around. The fact Cook has given him a few starts recently suggests so too, and he hasn't looked bad at all. He did a few bits really well last night. He's unorthodox at times, but he's not a bad player by any means. I don't imagine Cook will ever play a back 3, but Kenlock could be interesting cover there too, on the left hand side so he has that bit of versatility. He's ample cover at this level, but I'll be a touch surprised if he's starting at left back in Cook's back 4 next season. |
To me he's a bit of a throwback, the sort of player that may spend 8 years or so at a club, always a s a back up, rack up 150 appearances and never really let you down or nail down a place.
I'd be more than comfortable going into any season with him as a back up, and him playing 10-15 games if needed - much more than that and don't think he's good enough | |
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