| Voter ID 08:48 - May 11 with 9134 views | Guthrum |
Not seen this discussed on here. The Government will be bringing in legislation requiring photo ID in order to vote in person. That's all well and good for those with a driving licence and/or a passport.
But there needs to be a cheap and easily accessible scheme for those who do not have either. Many of such people will be the poor or the elderly (who may have not renewed the ones they had). Those groups are also the least internet accessible. Otherwise you are effectively dienfranchising those people or, at the very least, putting a price upon the ability to vote.
Such a scheme of voting photo ID would have to be very affordable, even for those on benefits (subsidised, even), easy to access (both on- and offline) and secure (something these things have not always been).
All this in the name of eradicating something which is an infinitesimally small problem (one conviction for impersonatin at a polling station in the 2017 election: https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/sites/default/files/pdf_file/Fraud-allega ). Presumably because they think introducing a national ID card system would create too much of a row (again). |  |
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| Voter ID on 16:17 - May 11 with 1122 views | clive_baker |
Great.
Voter IQ next. |  |
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| Voter ID on 16:24 - May 11 with 1104 views | Bluefish |
| Voter ID on 14:22 - May 11 by Herbivore |
You may have always taken photo ID to pick up from the Royal Mail depot but you don't need to. When I've done click and collect with Go Outdoors I've only had to show them the email on my phone, never had to show photo ID. The things you need photo ID for are pretty minimal. |
Had my email on phone for go outdoor and they refused. I had to drive home again |  |
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| Voter ID on 16:52 - May 11 with 1079 views | eireblue |
| Voter ID on 09:47 - May 11 by chicoazul |
Yet another of our ancient freedoms is hastened to the exit door without a whimper from the supine English public. |
Maybe some people were lulled into it by thinking Boris was just a libertarian. |  | | |
| Voter ID on 17:14 - May 11 with 1056 views | Herbivore |
| Voter ID on 16:24 - May 11 by Bluefish |
Had my email on phone for go outdoor and they refused. I had to drive home again |
They must have taken a dislike to you. |  |
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| Voter ID on 18:43 - May 11 with 1027 views | HotShotHamish |
Of course, none of you commenting could be bothered to look up the facts. Instead there is the usual anti-tory drivel that pervades this board, with some of you making out like its a huge conspiracy by those 'nasty tories'.
Anyone without the required I.D. will be issued what they need, free of charge.
https://vote-watch.com/2021/05/10/voters-to-be-given-free-photo-id-for-elections
Also, each year there is usually at least one council, or other election, that ends in a tie, with the Returning Officer deciding the method of choosing the winner - coin toss, straws, pistols at dawn etc
I believe there were 186 counts of electoral fraud in the last election so why do most of you consider this a non-issue? |  | | |
| Voter ID on 18:48 - May 11 with 1021 views | Mullet |
| Voter ID on 18:43 - May 11 by HotShotHamish |
Of course, none of you commenting could be bothered to look up the facts. Instead there is the usual anti-tory drivel that pervades this board, with some of you making out like its a huge conspiracy by those 'nasty tories'.
Anyone without the required I.D. will be issued what they need, free of charge.
https://vote-watch.com/2021/05/10/voters-to-be-given-free-photo-id-for-elections
Also, each year there is usually at least one council, or other election, that ends in a tie, with the Returning Officer deciding the method of choosing the winner - coin toss, straws, pistols at dawn etc
I believe there were 186 counts of electoral fraud in the last election so why do most of you consider this a non-issue? |
Being lectured by Tories about dishonesty and fraud is rich to say the least. This sock puppet account of yours needs more work champ. |  |
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| Voter ID on 18:50 - May 11 with 1014 views | Herbivore |
| Voter ID on 18:43 - May 11 by HotShotHamish |
Of course, none of you commenting could be bothered to look up the facts. Instead there is the usual anti-tory drivel that pervades this board, with some of you making out like its a huge conspiracy by those 'nasty tories'.
Anyone without the required I.D. will be issued what they need, free of charge.
https://vote-watch.com/2021/05/10/voters-to-be-given-free-photo-id-for-elections
Also, each year there is usually at least one council, or other election, that ends in a tie, with the Returning Officer deciding the method of choosing the winner - coin toss, straws, pistols at dawn etc
I believe there were 186 counts of electoral fraud in the last election so why do most of you consider this a non-issue? |
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| Voter ID on 18:59 - May 11 with 1006 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| Voter ID on 18:43 - May 11 by HotShotHamish |
Of course, none of you commenting could be bothered to look up the facts. Instead there is the usual anti-tory drivel that pervades this board, with some of you making out like its a huge conspiracy by those 'nasty tories'.
Anyone without the required I.D. will be issued what they need, free of charge.
https://vote-watch.com/2021/05/10/voters-to-be-given-free-photo-id-for-elections
Also, each year there is usually at least one council, or other election, that ends in a tie, with the Returning Officer deciding the method of choosing the winner - coin toss, straws, pistols at dawn etc
I believe there were 186 counts of electoral fraud in the last election so why do most of you consider this a non-issue? |
Facts? We don't need no stinking facts... |  |
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| Voter ID on 19:51 - May 11 with 984 views | Herbivore |
| Voter ID on 18:59 - May 11 by Ewan_Oozami |
Facts? We don't need no stinking facts... |
His post is, amusingly, littered with factual inaccuracies. | |
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| Voter ID on 20:02 - May 11 with 979 views | HARRY10 |
| Voter ID on 19:51 - May 11 by Herbivore |
His post is, amusingly, littered with factual inaccuracies. |
In the same way a corpse is littered with death | | | |
| Voter ID on 20:11 - May 11 with 973 views | Clapham_Junction |
Worth noting that they are also alleged cases of fraud. IMO a good number of them may be errors by poll clerks ticking off the wrong name and then someone turning up later and being told they have already voted. |  | | |
| Voter ID on 20:11 - May 11 with 972 views | J2BLUE |
| Voter ID on 09:54 - May 11 by SaleAway |
Do you think the ~2 million people using foodbanks would rather spend £75 quid on a passport, or on food for their families? |
Yea but if it wasn't for the Tories we wouldn't even have those food banks...
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| Voter ID on 20:16 - May 11 with 968 views | Melford |
| Voter ID on 08:51 - May 11 by Herbivore |
I don't see how in good conscience this can be introduced without also introducing some form of free national ID card that people can apply for. You are essentially disenfranchising large numbers of the electorate by forcing them to produce a form of ID they don't have, don't need, and can't afford in order to vote. And it's introducing a solution to a problem so miniscule that it doesn't really need solving. |
I can't drive and haven't got a passport. So that's me out unless I fork out £70 odd. |  |
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| Voter ID on 20:25 - May 11 with 954 views | Oldsmoker |
Why are you all fixating on Voter ID.
There's something called "Project Speed".
It seems to be something to do with planning laws and building loads of houses on farmland damn quick which is disappointing as I was hoping it was crystal meth on prescription. |  |
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| Voter ID on 22:48 - May 11 with 889 views | The_Last_Baron |
A good move and long overdue. I've had several people boast to me over the years how they've voted twice or three times, across constituencies. All were proud of it. |  |
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| Voter ID on 23:29 - May 11 with 887 views | J2BLUE |
| Voter ID on 22:48 - May 11 by The_Last_Baron |
A good move and long overdue. I've had several people boast to me over the years how they've voted twice or three times, across constituencies. All were proud of it. |
Ha, yea, this happened... | |
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| Voter ID on 23:32 - May 11 with 878 views | SpruceMoose |
| Voter ID on 23:29 - May 11 by J2BLUE |
Ha, yea, this happened... |
Why does anyone give it any attention? It's just a troll, on here to get a few bites to distract itself from the fact that it's main hobby is collecting football shirts it can't fit into. |  |
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| Voter ID on 07:47 - May 12 with 828 views | HARRY10 |
| Voter ID on 20:11 - May 11 by Clapham_Junction |
Worth noting that they are also alleged cases of fraud. IMO a good number of them may be errors by poll clerks ticking off the wrong name and then someone turning up later and being told they have already voted. |
The one that is most prevalent is not what the righties are now bleating about. It is where incorrect information has been put on the candidate registration form, as in
Using a false name.address on the nomination form
Yes it is illegal and wrong but come the vote it is up to voters to decide who they wish to vote for - and any candidate with the slightest chance of being elected would have easily been able to find the number needed.
More importantly what this has shown is how willing and desperate the forelock tuggers are to defend their betters, irrespective of how absurd and contradictory that position might be.
the real threat to our democracy is that we have a legislative body in which it does not have to adhere to the requirements it imposes elsewhere. Lie in court and you face a charge of perjury. Lie in the Commons and the Speaker will wring his hands, perhaps.
And it is not about stopping someone like Johnson from lying - but having a robust and open system of accountability. If there can be Parliamentary enquiries into Cameron's “potentially criminal in nature” behaviour and Johnsons repeated attempts to conceal 'gifts' then blatantly lying to Parliament must have some form of sanction - as I doubt if a guilty verdict in either of the above will result in no 'punishment'.
So why is it acceptable in the very place those laws are made ? | | | |
| Voter ID on 08:36 - May 12 with 815 views | Clapham_Junction |
| Voter ID on 22:48 - May 11 by The_Last_Baron |
A good move and long overdue. I've had several people boast to me over the years how they've voted twice or three times, across constituencies. All were proud of it. |
If they've managed to get themselves on the voter roll in more than one constituency, voter ID wouldn't stop them voting. If you're talking about general elections, this is a voter roll compilation error. If it's local elections, it's legal to vote in two constituencies. | | | |
| Voter ID on 08:44 - May 12 with 800 views | You_Bloo_Right |
| Voter ID on 22:48 - May 11 by The_Last_Baron |
A good move and long overdue. I've had several people boast to me over the years how they've voted twice or three times, across constituencies. All were proud of it. |
That's nothing. I frequently vote multiple times and, indeed, at these last elections registered four* votes. I know many people who did the same.
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District Council - one vote
County Council - one vote
PCC - Two votes (first and second preference) |  |
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| Voter ID on 09:31 - May 12 with 763 views | The_Last_Baron |
| Voter ID on 08:36 - May 12 by Clapham_Junction |
If they've managed to get themselves on the voter roll in more than one constituency, voter ID wouldn't stop them voting. If you're talking about general elections, this is a voter roll compilation error. If it's local elections, it's legal to vote in two constituencies. |
They use other people's polling cards. No ID checks, no problems voting in another person's name.
In Northern Ireland you need ID to vote. No problems. This was introduced to prevent mass voter fraud by a certain political party. | |
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| Voter ID on 09:36 - May 12 with 756 views | Herbivore |
| Voter ID on 09:31 - May 12 by The_Last_Baron |
They use other people's polling cards. No ID checks, no problems voting in another person's name.
In Northern Ireland you need ID to vote. No problems. This was introduced to prevent mass voter fraud by a certain political party. |
Chinny reckon. | |
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| Voter ID on 09:49 - May 12 with 735 views | m14_blue |
| Voter ID on 09:31 - May 12 by The_Last_Baron |
They use other people's polling cards. No ID checks, no problems voting in another person's name.
In Northern Ireland you need ID to vote. No problems. This was introduced to prevent mass voter fraud by a certain political party. |
You don’t need polling cards either, you’d think someone who’s so committed to election fraud would know that. | | | |
| Voter ID on 11:01 - May 12 with 705 views | The_Last_Baron |
| Voter ID on 09:49 - May 12 by m14_blue |
You don’t need polling cards either, you’d think someone who’s so committed to election fraud would know that. |
You don't, but if you pick up a polling card belonging to someone else you have all the details you need to vote.
I'm amazed to see so many people opposed to showing ID to vote. Makes me wonder what the real reason is for this opposition?
Looking forward to this measure being implemented. As I said, long overdue and the fact all the right people are having a meltdown over it shows it's a very good decision. | |
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