| Bad boys 15:25 - May 12 with 3173 views | urbanblue |
Whenever I read complaints about the behaviour of Norwood and now our new coach I wonder what you would have made of Kevin Beattie. He was no angel and got himself in a few pickles in his time here.
Lets just sign pure angels eh, and see how that goes. |  | | |  |
| Bad boys on 16:00 - May 12 with 546 views | usm |
| Bad boys on 15:53 - May 12 by Herbivore |
It is possible to be successful in your chosen career without commiting domestic abuse or drink driving. I'm sure many of us on here have managed it. |
Of course not, but by the same stretch very few successful people are "good guys/gals".
You dont get to the top by being nice. So, do you want a bad guy winner or a good guy loser? Your choice. |  |
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| Bad boys on 16:03 - May 12 with 520 views | urbanblue |
| Bad boys on 15:53 - May 12 by Herbivore |
It is possible to be successful in your chosen career without commiting domestic abuse or drink driving. I'm sure many of us on here have managed it. |
Of course you're correct. I was being quite flippant in the OP. There are many great players and Managers who have had quite questionable records in their personal lives and I guess I'm asking the question as to whether the club should only sign players and staff with an unblemished personal history? [Post edited 12 May 2021 16:05]
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| Bad boys on 16:06 - May 12 with 510 views | BiGDonnie |
| Bad boys on 15:53 - May 12 by Herbivore |
It is possible to be successful in your chosen career without commiting domestic abuse or drink driving. I'm sure many of us on here have managed it. |
Anyone who sends death threats is a t*sser.
Anyone who sends death threats to their ex wife, who potentially has your children, is a complete and utter pr*ck who I have no time for.
The banter era is well and truly alive and kicking, lads! |  |
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| Bad boys on 16:06 - May 12 with 504 views | stopmoaning |
| Bad boys on 15:33 - May 12 by chrismakin |
So next time he drinks and drives but kills a family, is it just bantz and being a bad boy? [Post edited 12 May 2021 15:34]
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Didn’t think there had been a judgment on that yet? Unless I’ve missed it. |  | | |
| Bad boys on 16:07 - May 12 with 489 views | SpruceMoose |
| Bad boys on 16:00 - May 12 by usm |
Of course not, but by the same stretch very few successful people are "good guys/gals".
You dont get to the top by being nice. So, do you want a bad guy winner or a good guy loser? Your choice. |
"very few successful people are "good guys/gals" You dont get to the top by being nice. "
This is very much an unsuccessful person's idea of how to become successful. |  |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Bad boys on 16:08 - May 12 with 475 views | SpruceMoose |
| Bad boys on 16:06 - May 12 by stopmoaning |
Didn’t think there had been a judgment on that yet? Unless I’ve missed it. |
Edit - misunderstood what you were referencing - apologies. [Post edited 12 May 2021 16:10]
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Bad boys on 16:08 - May 12 with 485 views | DanTheMan |
| Bad boys on 16:06 - May 12 by stopmoaning |
Didn’t think there had been a judgment on that yet? Unless I’ve missed it. |
There has, he admitted the offence and was given a 12 month restraining order. |  |
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| Bad boys on 16:08 - May 12 with 484 views | jayessess |
| Bad boys on 16:03 - May 12 by urbanblue |
Of course you're correct. I was being quite flippant in the OP. There are many great players and Managers who have had quite questionable records in their personal lives and I guess I'm asking the question as to whether the club should only sign players and staff with an unblemished personal history? [Post edited 12 May 2021 16:05]
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The club should indeed draw the line at people who threaten to murder their ex-partners, yes. |  |
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| Bad boys on 16:10 - May 12 with 470 views | Herbivore |
| Bad boys on 16:00 - May 12 by usm |
Of course not, but by the same stretch very few successful people are "good guys/gals".
You dont get to the top by being nice. So, do you want a bad guy winner or a good guy loser? Your choice. |
What utter nonsense. |  |
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| Bad boys on 16:12 - May 12 with 467 views | BlueBadger |
As everyone else has countered this utter nonsense with sensible, reason posts, I'll just add 'give over, you massive fanny' to the debate. |  |
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| Bad boys on 16:14 - May 12 with 450 views | BlueBadger |
| Bad boys on 16:00 - May 12 by usm |
Of course not, but by the same stretch very few successful people are "good guys/gals".
You dont get to the top by being nice. So, do you want a bad guy winner or a good guy loser? Your choice. |
I'm in one of the most coveted jobs in my Trust and I've managed it without doing any of the dickish things you seem to think are necessary. | |
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| Bad boys on 16:14 - May 12 with 457 views | Herbivore |
| Bad boys on 16:03 - May 12 by urbanblue |
Of course you're correct. I was being quite flippant in the OP. There are many great players and Managers who have had quite questionable records in their personal lives and I guess I'm asking the question as to whether the club should only sign players and staff with an unblemished personal history? [Post edited 12 May 2021 16:05]
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Depends on what the blemishes are to be honest. We're talking about someone convicted of drink driving and of making threats to his ex-wife in the last 2 years. For me those are pretty significant blemishes. I'd imagine there are plenty of other coaches with similar CVs to Jeffers that don't have those kinds of blemishes. If it was a couple of parking tickets then fair enough, none of us are perfect, but drink driving and domestic abuse aren't minor mishaps. | |
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| Bad boys on 16:14 - May 12 with 443 views | BlueBadger |
| Bad boys on 16:07 - May 12 by SpruceMoose |
"very few successful people are "good guys/gals" You dont get to the top by being nice. "
This is very much an unsuccessful person's idea of how to become successful. |
USM probably thinks that multiple bankrupt Donald Trump is a winner, betcha. | |
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| Bad boys on 16:15 - May 12 with 445 views | DanTheMan |
| Bad boys on 16:00 - May 12 by usm |
Of course not, but by the same stretch very few successful people are "good guys/gals".
You dont get to the top by being nice. So, do you want a bad guy winner or a good guy loser? Your choice. |
Not being a loser - drink driving and threatening to murder your wife.
You heard it here first folks. | |
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| Bad boys on 16:17 - May 12 with 429 views | stopmoaning |
| Bad boys on 16:08 - May 12 by DanTheMan |
There has, he admitted the offence and was given a 12 month restraining order. |
I was talking about Norwood and not Jeffers by the way. | | | |
| Bad boys on 16:18 - May 12 with 420 views | BlueBadger |
| Bad boys on 15:53 - May 12 by clive_baker |
Although there's one very obvious factor that would probably prevent such accusations being levelled at Norwood, when you consider the string of players that have had this myth perpetuated by tw@ts from Ipswich. |
Would it be the same factor that often leads to certain players being accused of being either 'lazy', 'having an attitude' or 'getting too big for their boots', perchance? | |
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| Bad boys on 16:19 - May 12 with 415 views | SpruceMoose |
| Bad boys on 16:17 - May 12 by stopmoaning |
I was talking about Norwood and not Jeffers by the way. |
Oh, well I didn't need to edit my response then! Which drink driving arrest were you referring to? The first one or the second one? | |
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| Bad boys on 16:21 - May 12 with 404 views | BlueBadger |
| Bad boys on 16:15 - May 12 by DanTheMan |
Not being a loser - drink driving and threatening to murder your wife.
You heard it here first folks. |
Who'd have though that one of the TWTD Decent Right crowd would have such a blasé attitude towards abusive behaviour and criminality? | |
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| Bad boys on 16:23 - May 12 with 402 views | solemio |
| Bad boys on 16:14 - May 12 by Herbivore |
Depends on what the blemishes are to be honest. We're talking about someone convicted of drink driving and of making threats to his ex-wife in the last 2 years. For me those are pretty significant blemishes. I'd imagine there are plenty of other coaches with similar CVs to Jeffers that don't have those kinds of blemishes. If it was a couple of parking tickets then fair enough, none of us are perfect, but drink driving and domestic abuse aren't minor mishaps. |
Agree totally. How recently these events occurred is also very relevant. Far too recently for my liking.
Considerable time has passed since Kieron's youth. He is clearly a far more mature person now than he was then. He was far from all bad then. When he was a yoof he used to spend far more time chatting to the disabled folk he wheeled to their place than most other youngsters did. Yes, he had to do that job but he went above and beyond. |  | | |
| Bad boys on 16:28 - May 12 with 386 views | chrismakin |
| Bad boys on 16:06 - May 12 by stopmoaning |
Didn’t think there had been a judgment on that yet? Unless I’ve missed it. |
Hes already had 1 conviction for drink driving.
This is another trial pending. |  |
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| Bad boys on 16:39 - May 12 with 373 views | stopmoaning |
| Bad boys on 16:28 - May 12 by chrismakin |
Hes already had 1 conviction for drink driving.
This is another trial pending. |
Ah okay, he’s a bell end then.
Still a good striker though! | | | |
| Bad boys on 16:41 - May 12 with 366 views | PJH |
| Bad boys on 15:37 - May 12 by chrismakin |
Life and Acceptance of certain behaviours has changed.
Years ago, it was a mans right to expect your wife to have your dinner on the table, to do the cleaning, to do everytihing a 'women' should do.
Years ago, it was wrong to be gay
Thankfully the world has changed, had Beattie done what he did in today's world, no it wouldn't be accepted. |
What is that The Beat did please? |  | | |
| Bad boys on 16:43 - May 12 with 363 views | usm |
| Bad boys on 16:14 - May 12 by BlueBadger |
USM probably thinks that multiple bankrupt Donald Trump is a winner, betcha. |
What, the billionaire who became US President? No, he's a loser for sure.
You seem to be inferring that I admire these guys, not sure where you got that from. | |
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| Bad boys on 16:45 - May 12 with 351 views | BlueBadger |
| Bad boys on 16:43 - May 12 by usm |
What, the billionaire who became US President? No, he's a loser for sure.
You seem to be inferring that I admire these guys, not sure where you got that from. |
The fact that you keep turning up to defend them? [Post edited 12 May 2021 16:45]
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| Bad boys on 16:45 - May 12 with 351 views | usm |
| Bad boys on 16:14 - May 12 by BlueBadger |
I'm in one of the most coveted jobs in my Trust and I've managed it without doing any of the dickish things you seem to think are necessary. |
Well done you, but I did say "very few", but lets not let facts get in the way, or for that matter other people's opinions. | |
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