VAR bulls1t 19:04 - May 15 with 2419 views | Marshalls_Mullet | I want Leicester to win, but that's a joke. | |
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VAR bulls1t on 19:06 - May 15 with 2154 views | Lesta_Tractor | The var application of the offside rule is a joke | |
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VAR bulls1t on 19:07 - May 15 with 2150 views | Blueschev | Exactly what I said. Utter nonsense! | | | |
VAR bulls1t on 19:08 - May 15 with 2128 views | quirkie | He was offside though to be fair. | |
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VAR bulls1t on 19:09 - May 15 with 2128 views | SitfcB | He was offside. It wasn’t even the tightest one we’ve seen this season. | |
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VAR bulls1t on 19:10 - May 15 with 2116 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
VAR bulls1t on 19:08 - May 15 by quirkie | He was offside though to be fair. |
Potentially by a few milimetres, but then again VAR isn't as accurate as that so we'll never know. Clear and obvious error? I think not. | |
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VAR bulls1t on 19:10 - May 15 with 2107 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
VAR bulls1t on 19:09 - May 15 by SitfcB | He was offside. It wasn’t even the tightest one we’ve seen this season. |
You're clearly a Twitter user. Clear and obvious error? Nope. | |
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VAR bulls1t on 19:12 - May 15 with 2065 views | jayessess | no VAR and the ref's assistant just gives it with the naked eye most of the time, surely? | |
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VAR bulls1t on 19:16 - May 15 with 2008 views | NthQldITFC |
VAR bulls1t on 19:09 - May 15 by SitfcB | He was offside. It wasn’t even the tightest one we’ve seen this season. |
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VAR bulls1t on 19:16 - May 15 with 1998 views | SitfcB |
VAR bulls1t on 19:10 - May 15 by Marshalls_Mullet | You're clearly a Twitter user. Clear and obvious error? Nope. |
Na I hate twitter, vile place. Rules are rules. Had it have been the other way round I’d be fumin tbf haha | |
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VAR bulls1t on 19:18 - May 15 with 1962 views | SE1blue | Agreed. I wanted Leicester to win but on the still picture of the offside pass, the ball was already a foot away from the player making the pass. Too tight to call. | |
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VAR bulls1t on 19:19 - May 15 with 1936 views | Lamby95 |
VAR bulls1t on 19:10 - May 15 by Marshalls_Mullet | Potentially by a few milimetres, but then again VAR isn't as accurate as that so we'll never know. Clear and obvious error? I think not. |
Watching live it’s one of those where it looks offside in real time and it’s a split second. Without VAR I think there is every chance the linesman flag goes up pre VAR with that one | | | |
VAR bulls1t on 19:21 - May 15 with 1908 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
VAR bulls1t on 19:19 - May 15 by Lamby95 | Watching live it’s one of those where it looks offside in real time and it’s a split second. Without VAR I think there is every chance the linesman flag goes up pre VAR with that one |
Agree to differ. | |
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VAR bulls1t on 19:21 - May 15 with 1901 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
VAR bulls1t on 19:10 - May 15 by Marshalls_Mullet | You're clearly a Twitter user. Clear and obvious error? Nope. |
Calm down Bro. | |
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VAR bulls1t on 19:31 - May 15 with 1836 views | jayessess |
VAR bulls1t on 19:19 - May 15 by Lamby95 | Watching live it’s one of those where it looks offside in real time and it’s a split second. Without VAR I think there is every chance the linesman flag goes up pre VAR with that one |
yeah looked off live to me too. Statistically, non-VAR ref's assistants tend to perceive attackers to be further forward than they are and raise their flag if in doubt ( https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18377164/). As an attacker you're actually more likely to get a marginal call in your favour from VAR than a lino. (I'm still anti-VAR, because it wrecks match going, but nevertheless) | |
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VAR bulls1t on 19:38 - May 15 with 1790 views | ITFC_Forever |
VAR bulls1t on 19:09 - May 15 by SitfcB | He was offside. It wasn’t even the tightest one we’ve seen this season. |
What Sitters said. As soon as I saw the replay, I knew it would be disallowed. | |
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VAR bulls1t on 19:57 - May 15 with 1718 views | N2_Blue |
VAR bulls1t on 19:07 - May 15 by Blueschev | Exactly what I said. Utter nonsense! |
Why? It was offside, no debate, no controversy, no silly body parts, just black and white offside. | |
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VAR bulls1t on 20:32 - May 15 with 1643 views | SitfcB |
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VAR bulls1t on 22:39 - May 15 with 1482 views | J4ck22 |
VAR bulls1t on 19:10 - May 15 by Marshalls_Mullet | You're clearly a Twitter user. Clear and obvious error? Nope. |
But still an error nevertheless... | | | |
VAR bulls1t on 22:44 - May 15 with 1467 views | stonojnr |
VAR bulls1t on 19:10 - May 15 by Marshalls_Mullet | You're clearly a Twitter user. Clear and obvious error? Nope. |
I didnt think offsides on goals had to be clear and obvious errors though ? they fell in the binary is or isnt category, which has been the cause of the controversy this season, because every goal is automatically checked if it is or isnt valid, and offsides in play leading to a goal will always be picked up and goals ruled out if they are found the ref/linesman dont have to spot them or make the error miscalling which you could argue changes the way they officiate on close calls as they know VAR will make the decision for them and I bet the amount of close call got wrong offsides on goals has shrunk alot. So a bit like American football or even rugby I guess the players/fans/tv need to learn its not a goal till its confirmed a goal thing, which unfortunately in a game like that today the whole scored an equaliser in the FA cup elation/celebration thing gets forgotten | | | |
VAR bulls1t on 22:56 - May 15 with 1440 views | positivity |
VAR bulls1t on 22:44 - May 15 by stonojnr | I didnt think offsides on goals had to be clear and obvious errors though ? they fell in the binary is or isnt category, which has been the cause of the controversy this season, because every goal is automatically checked if it is or isnt valid, and offsides in play leading to a goal will always be picked up and goals ruled out if they are found the ref/linesman dont have to spot them or make the error miscalling which you could argue changes the way they officiate on close calls as they know VAR will make the decision for them and I bet the amount of close call got wrong offsides on goals has shrunk alot. So a bit like American football or even rugby I guess the players/fans/tv need to learn its not a goal till its confirmed a goal thing, which unfortunately in a game like that today the whole scored an equaliser in the FA cup elation/celebration thing gets forgotten |
it's like goal-line technology, either it's over the line (even by a millimetre) or it's not. defining a clear and obvious error in a binary decision is tough. where do you draw the line? go with the ref's original decision unless it's wrong by a metre? 50 cm? an inch? no idea on the error margins of the tech, that might inform things | |
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VAR bulls1t on 23:14 - May 15 with 1421 views | Vaughan8 |
VAR bulls1t on 19:10 - May 15 by Marshalls_Mullet | Potentially by a few milimetres, but then again VAR isn't as accurate as that so we'll never know. Clear and obvious error? I think not. |
The problem is, over here we haven't been using the "clear and obvious"? I saw a Serie A game this midweek and they actually use it. there was a 50:50 penalty incident, the ref didn't give it. they moved on because it wasn't a clear and obvious error. You could argue either way. Here we seem to analyse it too much. I'm fully for the clear and obvious rule to actually be implemented. However today's goal was offside and was even a gap between the lines.... I don't like how VAR is used over here, but it has to be consistent with the rest of the season | | | |
VAR bulls1t on 00:44 - May 16 with 1328 views | rickw |
VAR bulls1t on 23:14 - May 15 by Vaughan8 | The problem is, over here we haven't been using the "clear and obvious"? I saw a Serie A game this midweek and they actually use it. there was a 50:50 penalty incident, the ref didn't give it. they moved on because it wasn't a clear and obvious error. You could argue either way. Here we seem to analyse it too much. I'm fully for the clear and obvious rule to actually be implemented. However today's goal was offside and was even a gap between the lines.... I don't like how VAR is used over here, but it has to be consistent with the rest of the season |
You say that - but I think they freezed the frame after the ball had left Silva's foot, if they'd have freezed it a millisecond before he'd have been onside. Basically these marginal decisions are all stupid, there used to be such a thing as level. I would allow the VAR officials to draw 1 line and have a few seconds to call it or not, if they can't tell - it's called level and the game moves on. Before VAR had anyone ever complained that someone was offside by a toe or kneecap? No | |
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VAR bulls1t on 08:00 - May 16 with 1186 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
VAR bulls1t on 22:44 - May 15 by stonojnr | I didnt think offsides on goals had to be clear and obvious errors though ? they fell in the binary is or isnt category, which has been the cause of the controversy this season, because every goal is automatically checked if it is or isnt valid, and offsides in play leading to a goal will always be picked up and goals ruled out if they are found the ref/linesman dont have to spot them or make the error miscalling which you could argue changes the way they officiate on close calls as they know VAR will make the decision for them and I bet the amount of close call got wrong offsides on goals has shrunk alot. So a bit like American football or even rugby I guess the players/fans/tv need to learn its not a goal till its confirmed a goal thing, which unfortunately in a game like that today the whole scored an equaliser in the FA cup elation/celebration thing gets forgotten |
‘ So a bit like American football or even rugby I guess the players/fans/tv need to learn its not a goal till its confirmed a goal thing, which unfortunately in a game like that today the whole scored an equaliser in the FA cup elation/celebration thing gets forgotten’ Oh great, let’s not celebrate any goals until 5 minutes after then, just to be sure | |
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VAR bulls1t on 08:12 - May 16 with 1166 views | Kropotkin123 | Agreed. The way it is applied is ridiculous. Offside was intended to stop goal hanging. It should be anyone who is ahead of the last man with an air gap. But, yeah, happy Leicester won | |
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