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More utterly rubbish messaging from the government 15:35 - May 17 with 6438 viewsStokieBlue

This is an utterly ridiculous stance:

"Don't travel to amber countries even though it's legal".

If they don't want people to travel to them then move them all onto red or not allowed at all. It's ridiculous, the mixed messages are just pathetic and they are pushing the decision making onto the public rather than make the difficult decisions themselves.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/may/17/dont-travel-to-amber-list-count

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More utterly rubbish messaging from the government on 20:31 - May 17 with 865 viewsSpruceMoose

More utterly rubbish messaging from the government on 20:30 - May 17 by GaryCooper

Are you seriously denying that statement is not true?


You don't seem to know up from down Gazza, let alone true or false, so I won't encourage your madness with an actual response.

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More utterly rubbish messaging from the government on 20:33 - May 17 with 860 viewsGaryCooper

More utterly rubbish messaging from the government on 20:29 - May 17 by bluelagos

That is one hell of a stretch tbf. Take the guy to task on what he posted by all means, but that is getting pretty silly.


No it is not, all those who voted Tory was the descriptor, these abusive posts under the banner of Ipswich Town Football Club is very poor form.
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More utterly rubbish messaging from the government on 20:34 - May 17 with 852 viewsSpruceMoose

More utterly rubbish messaging from the government on 20:25 - May 17 by 26_Paz

I didn’t because I went to Greece and there was no requirement to isolate upon return from Greece at the time I travelled.


So you hopped off the plane and went straight to give your elderly relatives a hug, genuinely believing there was no way at all that you might pass on covid to them because your man Boris said it was OK?

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More utterly rubbish messaging from the government on 20:36 - May 17 with 838 views26_Paz

More utterly rubbish messaging from the government on 20:34 - May 17 by SpruceMoose

So you hopped off the plane and went straight to give your elderly relatives a hug, genuinely believing there was no way at all that you might pass on covid to them because your man Boris said it was OK?


My elderly relatives were in care homes so I was unable to see them at the time.
I fully complied with all legal requirements. Hundreds of thousands of people did the same.

The Paz Man

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More utterly rubbish messaging from the government on 20:36 - May 17 with 839 viewsSpruceMoose

More utterly rubbish messaging from the government on 20:33 - May 17 by GaryCooper

No it is not, all those who voted Tory was the descriptor, these abusive posts under the banner of Ipswich Town Football Club is very poor form.


Oh sit down you silly sausage. You're being daft.

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More utterly rubbish messaging from the government on 20:38 - May 17 with 833 viewsHerbivore

More utterly rubbish messaging from the government on 20:26 - May 17 by GaryCooper

Anyone who votes Tory is a c**t or wood to that effect.

Sir Tom Moore was a life long member of the Tory party so that disgusting insult is addressed to Sir Tom.

So much hatred from the extreme left, bad bad people.


The only person who has mentioned, and continues to mention, Sir Captain Tom on this thread is you, Gaz. It's a heck of a reach you're going for here. Almost like you'll go to any lengths to make out that 'the left' are a terrible bunch.

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More utterly rubbish messaging from the government on 20:40 - May 17 with 826 viewsSpruceMoose

More utterly rubbish messaging from the government on 20:36 - May 17 by 26_Paz

My elderly relatives were in care homes so I was unable to see them at the time.
I fully complied with all legal requirements. Hundreds of thousands of people did the same.


Would you have gone to see them if Boris had said it was OK? Or would some part of you, deep down, realise and acknowledge that to do so would represent a risk to their health and safety?

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More utterly rubbish messaging from the government on 20:43 - May 17 with 814 views26_Paz

More utterly rubbish messaging from the government on 20:40 - May 17 by SpruceMoose

Would you have gone to see them if Boris had said it was OK? Or would some part of you, deep down, realise and acknowledge that to do so would represent a risk to their health and safety?


They both caught it anyway (thankfully both survived, although Nan not been the same since)
I wouldn’t have just bowled in there, of course not.
My Nan’s home came up with a Covid secure way of visiting once it was allowed. You were basically in a different room but could see them through a window and the sound was via some audio thing.
I think that should have came in a lot earlier and would have happily done that after I had got back from Greece.

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More utterly rubbish messaging from the government on 20:44 - May 17 with 808 viewsSpruceMoose

More utterly rubbish messaging from the government on 20:43 - May 17 by 26_Paz

They both caught it anyway (thankfully both survived, although Nan not been the same since)
I wouldn’t have just bowled in there, of course not.
My Nan’s home came up with a Covid secure way of visiting once it was allowed. You were basically in a different room but could see them through a window and the sound was via some audio thing.
I think that should have came in a lot earlier and would have happily done that after I had got back from Greece.


So, you wouldn't have put your own relatives at risk, but you didn't care about anyone else's.

Thanks for clearing that up.

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More utterly rubbish messaging from the government on 20:47 - May 17 with 797 views26_Paz

More utterly rubbish messaging from the government on 20:44 - May 17 by SpruceMoose

So, you wouldn't have put your own relatives at risk, but you didn't care about anyone else's.

Thanks for clearing that up.


What?
It was completely Covid secure. They didn’t separate you from your own relatives but then tell you to run around the home breathing on all the other residents! You literally came into contact with nobody.

The Paz Man

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More utterly rubbish messaging from the government on 20:48 - May 17 with 798 viewsXYZ

More utterly rubbish messaging from the government on 20:26 - May 17 by GaryCooper

Anyone who votes Tory is a c**t or wood to that effect.

Sir Tom Moore was a life long member of the Tory party so that disgusting insult is addressed to Sir Tom.

So much hatred from the extreme left, bad bad people.


Lol. Truly magnificent. Je suis Sir Tom.

If you came out with this stuff in public, people would point and laugh.
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More utterly rubbish messaging from the government on 20:54 - May 17 with 787 viewsSpruceMoose

More utterly rubbish messaging from the government on 20:47 - May 17 by 26_Paz

What?
It was completely Covid secure. They didn’t separate you from your own relatives but then tell you to run around the home breathing on all the other residents! You literally came into contact with nobody.


You wouldn't go and see your Nan in a care home after coming home from holiday if allowed because you acknowledge it was a risk to her health and safety.

Yet you chose not to extend that courtesy to everyone else by not self isolating when you returned from holiday. Instead you went about your business, encountering the Nan's of God knows how many other people and risking their health and safety.

Basically you care about what impacts you, but nobody else. Same old same old. I don't see how you can justify acknowledging a risk to one elderly person while acting in a way that endangers another. You should have self isolated.

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More utterly rubbish messaging from the government on 20:55 - May 17 with 785 viewsSpruceMoose

More utterly rubbish messaging from the government on 20:48 - May 17 by XYZ

Lol. Truly magnificent. Je suis Sir Tom.

If you came out with this stuff in public, people would point and laugh.


I suspect he does, and they do.

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More utterly rubbish messaging from the government on 21:09 - May 17 with 754 viewsSwansea_Blue

More utterly rubbish messaging from the government on 20:10 - May 17 by 26_Paz

Of course it’s true. You can go to amber countries if you quarantine when you get back. That’s very, very clear.


You can, but you've been advised NOT to. It's very, very clear.

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More utterly rubbish messaging from the government on 21:11 - May 17 with 753 viewsSwansea_Blue

More utterly rubbish messaging from the government on 20:26 - May 17 by GaryCooper

Anyone who votes Tory is a c**t or wood to that effect.

Sir Tom Moore was a life long member of the Tory party so that disgusting insult is addressed to Sir Tom.

So much hatred from the extreme left, bad bad people.


It's not just an extreme left thing (I'd give that a rest if I was you; it's a lazy trope borrowed from online idiots). Anyone with a social conscience detests what this government are doing, even some lifelong Tory members.

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More utterly rubbish messaging from the government on 21:13 - May 17 with 747 views26_Paz

More utterly rubbish messaging from the government on 21:09 - May 17 by Swansea_Blue

You can, but you've been advised NOT to. It's very, very clear.


True, you’re also advised to eat 5 portions of fruit and veg a day and not to drink more than 14 units of alcohol a week ...

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More utterly rubbish messaging from the government on 21:14 - May 17 with 745 viewsSwansea_Blue

More utterly rubbish messaging from the government on 20:34 - May 17 by SpruceMoose

So you hopped off the plane and went straight to give your elderly relatives a hug, genuinely believing there was no way at all that you might pass on covid to them because your man Boris said it was OK?


Small point of order - Johnson hasn't said it's ok. He specifically advised against travel to countries on the amber list. Other than that, carry on!

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More utterly rubbish messaging from the government on 21:18 - May 17 with 739 views26_Paz

More utterly rubbish messaging from the government on 21:14 - May 17 by Swansea_Blue

Small point of order - Johnson hasn't said it's ok. He specifically advised against travel to countries on the amber list. Other than that, carry on!


In fairness to spruce he was talking about when I went to Greece last summer. At the time Boris was saying it was ok.

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More utterly rubbish messaging from the government on 21:20 - May 17 with 738 viewsSwansea_Blue

More utterly rubbish messaging from the government on 21:18 - May 17 by 26_Paz

In fairness to spruce he was talking about when I went to Greece last summer. At the time Boris was saying it was ok.


Sorry, my bad. I'll leave you both to it.

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More utterly rubbish messaging from the government on 22:08 - May 17 with 710 viewsHARRY10

More utterly rubbish messaging from the government on 19:35 - May 17 by 26_Paz

There’s a difference between calling someone up on something and calling roughly 14 million people the most extreme obscenity in the English language.


I wouldn't go so far as to say that the word Tory is the "most extreme obscenity in the English language"

but it is up there in the top half dozen
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More utterly rubbish messaging from the government on 22:15 - May 17 with 705 viewsHARRY10

More utterly rubbish messaging from the government on 20:26 - May 17 by GaryCooper

Anyone who votes Tory is a c**t or wood to that effect.

Sir Tom Moore was a life long member of the Tory party so that disgusting insult is addressed to Sir Tom.

So much hatred from the extreme left, bad bad people.


any update on this 48% claim you made ?

"We do not have 'relatively few' in the areas with spikes though, 48% take up is shocking. "

if only so that folk do not think you made it up
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