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Player dedication and Ipswich Town 10:12 - May 21 with 1992 viewsTieDyedIn95

We all remember when Shane Supple retired and let slip some players weren't interested in having success here, and were dreading the thought of playing in the Playoffs as it would interrupt their holiday plans.

The reasons I bring this up is I have seen the images and banter doing the rounds on social media of a number of our first team squad already on holiday with each other, some of which are the released (or soon to be sold) players. Now while I have no issue with people taking a holiday after a hard years work and what not, the 2020-21 season is not even over at this stage, I was wondering with Covid and what not doing the rounds how early would the guys have to have booked these trips in advance?

I know we haven't looked like reaching the Playoffs for months but still, if they did book these trips when we were still technically within a shout of getting Playoffs and promotion, that may at least explain some of the lack of urgency in the play towards the end of the season.

If that were the case then Paul Cook coming in and ripping up that culture is definitely a good thing. I could be wrong and they all booked last minute flights to Portugal (which is where I think they are) but I don't know if you can actually do that right now.
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Player dedication and Ipswich Town on 10:15 - May 21 with 1938 viewsSouperJim

Pretty sure you can get a flight to Portugal for about £20 at the drop of a hat right now.

Edit: in fact a 2 minute look on google tells me I can book a holiday in Portugal flying out as soon as tomorrow if I feel so inclined. So your theory is pretty much dead in the water.
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Player dedication and Ipswich Town on 10:16 - May 21 with 1913 viewsBlueBlueBluex2

"Hard years work" - guffaw.
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Player dedication and Ipswich Town on 10:16 - May 21 with 1922 viewsmaccyd9

As much as I'm not a fan of Norwood and Bishop and would not be sad to see them both moved on, I think you are over thinking this. They are entitled to a break like anyone else.

That said, I would much prefer to see insta pictures of our players from a Gym or showing that the hard work for next season starts now.

Especially those two who have poor fitness records. It's a short career and everything is put under the microscope, sometimes they just need to play the game a bit.
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Player dedication and Ipswich Town on 10:20 - May 21 with 1865 viewschrismakin

Problem we have had for many years is buying the wrong players for the aim of the club

Under mick it was players who could get a draw out of games and be happy

Under Hurst lower league players who hadnt even played the level we needed

Cook... needs players who could all lead. Want to win absolutely every game we play and hurt when we dont. Be ready for the next level before we even make it there.

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Player dedication and Ipswich Town on 10:22 - May 21 with 1845 viewschrismakin

Player dedication and Ipswich Town on 10:16 - May 21 by maccyd9

As much as I'm not a fan of Norwood and Bishop and would not be sad to see them both moved on, I think you are over thinking this. They are entitled to a break like anyone else.

That said, I would much prefer to see insta pictures of our players from a Gym or showing that the hard work for next season starts now.

Especially those two who have poor fitness records. It's a short career and everything is put under the microscope, sometimes they just need to play the game a bit.


Entitled to a break..Norwood had more than most players other than KVY lol.

O would say the walking should do him well. But the booze will probably counter it. *



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Player dedication and Ipswich Town on 10:26 - May 21 with 1816 viewsJammyDodgerrr

They have a lot of money so booking things at incredibly short notice doesn't affect them. Pretty straightforward.

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Player dedication and Ipswich Town on 10:29 - May 21 with 1783 viewsPositivelyPortman

Jaysus mate.
It’s a bit sad following possibly ex Town players and their every movement on social media and then reporting it on here to stir things up.
Let it go love.

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Player dedication and Ipswich Town on 10:16 - May 21 by maccyd9

As much as I'm not a fan of Norwood and Bishop and would not be sad to see them both moved on, I think you are over thinking this. They are entitled to a break like anyone else.

That said, I would much prefer to see insta pictures of our players from a Gym or showing that the hard work for next season starts now.

Especially those two who have poor fitness records. It's a short career and everything is put under the microscope, sometimes they just need to play the game a bit.


Social media is the issue here. I have absolutely no idea why people need to constantly publicise everything they are doing, but it is even more daft for professional footballers who know they get scrutinised by keyboard warriors for everything they do (reasonable and unreasonable).

A decade ago players went and got pissed in Marbella and nobody knew about it or even cared.
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Player dedication and Ipswich Town on 10:37 - May 21 with 1686 viewsSamWhiteUK

Player dedication and Ipswich Town on 10:16 - May 21 by maccyd9

As much as I'm not a fan of Norwood and Bishop and would not be sad to see them both moved on, I think you are over thinking this. They are entitled to a break like anyone else.

That said, I would much prefer to see insta pictures of our players from a Gym or showing that the hard work for next season starts now.

Especially those two who have poor fitness records. It's a short career and everything is put under the microscope, sometimes they just need to play the game a bit.


Norwood has already been posting pictures of his muscle therapy that he's been having, to be fair

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Player dedication and Ipswich Town on 10:47 - May 21 with 1576 viewsBlueBadger

Player dedication and Ipswich Town on 10:37 - May 21 by SamWhiteUK

Norwood has already been posting pictures of his muscle therapy that he's been having, to be fair


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Player dedication and Ipswich Town on 10:56 - May 21 with 1521 viewsabracaDOBRA_

They booked it last minute. Norwood quote tweeted the hotel when they opened their doors last week after being allowed due to COVID. It hasn't been open until just recently so wouldn't have been able to book
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Player dedication and Ipswich Town on 11:21 - May 21 with 1320 viewsitfcjoe

Player dedication and Ipswich Town on 10:16 - May 21 by maccyd9

As much as I'm not a fan of Norwood and Bishop and would not be sad to see them both moved on, I think you are over thinking this. They are entitled to a break like anyone else.

That said, I would much prefer to see insta pictures of our players from a Gym or showing that the hard work for next season starts now.

Especially those two who have poor fitness records. It's a short career and everything is put under the microscope, sometimes they just need to play the game a bit.


In fairness to those two, Norwood has been posting pictures of muscle therapy he’s having and Bishop is often on Instagram showing pictures of him in the gym.

Thibk people over analyse what is a 4-5 day break fro players at the end of a tough season where it’s been Saturday-Tuesday for the last few montha

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Player dedication and Ipswich Town on 11:22 - May 21 with 1302 viewsitfcjoe

When we were in the play offs last, both Murphy and McGoldrick moved house in the days leading up to one of the legs, and another player had to cancel their wedding

Everything is totally over analysed

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Player dedication and Ipswich Town on 11:45 - May 21 with 1106 viewsMattinLondon

Supple retired in 2009 the issues he highlighted, though related, aren’t the same that affect the team now.

Holidays are cheap and most companies are desperate for bums on aeroplanes that they would happily have rearranged the players booked holidays for two, three, four weeks later. For all we know the players on holiday only booked them two weeks ago.

There are many sticks to beat the players with but not on going on a beach holiday.
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Player dedication and Ipswich Town on 11:46 - May 21 with 1094 viewsMattinLondon

Player dedication and Ipswich Town on 11:22 - May 21 by itfcjoe

When we were in the play offs last, both Murphy and McGoldrick moved house in the days leading up to one of the legs, and another player had to cancel their wedding

Everything is totally over analysed


Totally agree. Players have a life outside of football and so make plans and rearrange plans depending on schedules.
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Player dedication and Ipswich Town on 11:49 - May 21 with 1083 viewsBlueySwede

That statement from Supple was in 2009. A lot of water has crossed under the bridge since then. I don´t think Mick would have tolerated players being more interested in holidays than reaching the playoffs.
Also I don´t think Supple meant every player at the club was like that.
I don´t believe for one minute that our players haven´t cared or tried because of early holiday plans. More to do with poor confidence and realising that you probably aren´t good enough and won´t be on the journey with Cook and the new owners.
I wish them a good holiday.
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Player dedication and Ipswich Town on 11:52 - May 21 with 1055 viewsDropCliffsNotBombs

What?! A few mates have gone on a golf break to Portugal for a couple of days at the end of the season?????!!!!!

BURN THEM
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Player dedication and Ipswich Town on 11:57 - May 21 with 1001 viewsTieDyedIn95

Player dedication and Ipswich Town on 10:29 - May 21 by PositivelyPortman

Jaysus mate.
It’s a bit sad following possibly ex Town players and their every movement on social media and then reporting it on here to stir things up.
Let it go love.


Just seen what's being shared, hardly following it but using the question, which I think is a fair one, to have a personal dig at me says more about you and your mind to be honest.

You are trying to stir it here, not me.

Grow up.

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Player dedication and Ipswich Town on 11:58 - May 21 with 981 viewsTieDyedIn95

Player dedication and Ipswich Town on 10:56 - May 21 by abracaDOBRA_

They booked it last minute. Norwood quote tweeted the hotel when they opened their doors last week after being allowed due to COVID. It hasn't been open until just recently so wouldn't have been able to book


That's all I was really interested in. I don't know what the state with the UK-EU booking up due to the Covid as I remembered there were some restrictions.

Are they even testing people coming to and from the UK?

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Player dedication and Ipswich Town on 12:00 - May 21 with 928 viewsMattinLondon

Player dedication and Ipswich Town on 11:58 - May 21 by TieDyedIn95

That's all I was really interested in. I don't know what the state with the UK-EU booking up due to the Covid as I remembered there were some restrictions.

Are they even testing people coming to and from the UK?


Does it really matter when they booked their holidays?
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Player dedication and Ipswich Town on 12:16 - May 21 with 856 viewsonemarcusstewart

Richie Wellens said same thing 3 years later https://www.twtd.co.uk/ipswich-town-news/21753/wellens-town-players-dont-care
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Player dedication and Ipswich Town on 11:45 - May 21 by MattinLondon

Supple retired in 2009 the issues he highlighted, though related, aren’t the same that affect the team now.

Holidays are cheap and most companies are desperate for bums on aeroplanes that they would happily have rearranged the players booked holidays for two, three, four weeks later. For all we know the players on holiday only booked them two weeks ago.

There are many sticks to beat the players with but not on going on a beach holiday.


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