| Serious post. Bullying on this site. 17:22 - Jun 3 with 13250 views | OriginalMarkyP |
I do think recently that a bit of a bullying culture has developed on here. It's a bit ugly to be honest.
Nothing wrong with joking and having a debate, but there are some on here who attack everything certain posters on here say, regardless of whether they agree with it or not. And that's a bit crap.
I'm not part of any #BeKind movement but maybe think for second about the person on the recieving end of your 'witty retort'. Some people have a pretty low threshold after a lot of time locked indoors with the pandemic, especially ones with pre-existing mental health issues. Maybe think about how you word it, it doesn't take more than an extra minute.
We all support the same team after all. COYB!
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| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 19:05 - Jun 3 with 1344 views | SpruceMoose |
| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 19:00 - Jun 3 by BryanPlug |
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The lies we tell ourselves about ourselves, eh? |  |
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| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 19:08 - Jun 3 with 1321 views | Ryorry |
| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 17:30 - Jun 3 by BlueBadger |
There's two, maybe three categories of people, who get the 'attack everything treatment'.
1. Trolls and Dreadful Behaviour apologists
2. The 'endless' posters. You know the sort - the ones who continually brainfart every thought they have and Tweet they read. I'm not saying it's deserved that you get a gob full for doing it, but by 'heck is it frustrating when a good thread falls off the page because of a stream of endless Twitter nonsense.
3. The occasional unlucky b*gger who gets off on the wrong foot and never recovers.
There's something you can do about the first two(category 1 - Phil eventually bans then, category 2 - stop posting as much sh1t), not so much the third. [Post edited 3 Jun 2021 17:34]
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As you say, there's a massive difference between 1 & 3 in particular.
Some people who say there's no bullying on here have no idea - simply because they've either never been targeted themselves, nor been around to see it when it did happen, & it then got deleted. Or they think you're simply referring to your category 1 here.
Re 3 - think that probably applied to me, as this I'd never been on the internet before, let alone any forum, before coming on here (2nd site of my internet experience after the official ITFC one), and I did make some pretty stupid mistakes early doors!
Unfortunately, early impressions sometime stick in the minds of a few, added to which there was a huge amount of sexist sh1t on here back in the late 90s & for a few years after (well done to all concerned for that now being reduced to vanishingly small).
But unless you'd actually seen it (and I know a few have as they sent supportive PMs - for which thanks) the unprovoked defamation, vitriole & abuse, including overt sexual harrassment, that I've received from a handful on here over the years, would shock most.
I also find it appalling that some people are prepared to call others "psychotic", "sociopath" and similar terms - not in a jokey way, but simply because they're not prepared to give way in a heated argument. Particularly shocking when some of those doing the labelling are also those who say they support those with mental health issues - talk about hypocritical. |  |
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| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 19:13 - Jun 3 with 1284 views | jeera |
| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 19:05 - Jun 3 by SpruceMoose |
The lies we tell ourselves about ourselves, eh? |
I've tried dating on the internet.
She was a monster in person. |  |
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| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 19:18 - Jun 3 with 1270 views | bazza |
| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 18:53 - Jun 3 by SpruceMoose |
Spot on Bazza. I think there's a few on here who want to say their bit and then get patted on the head. They aren't interested in actually discussing anything - they just want to be told they're right. |
They won’t get far with that attitude 😂 |  | | |
| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 19:30 - Jun 3 with 1220 views | nodge_blue |
| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 18:11 - Jun 3 by chrismakin |
Would you care explain what contentious posts I made.
I brought it to your attention that i was being cyber bullied by a group of posters
The response was bascially it's my fault for wanting to discuss players rumoured on social media to be linked.
I did not start rumours of players. Just posted what a few that was being discussed
Having looked back I started only 2 new threads on player link rumours.. the rest were replies to other peoples OP's.
The latest cyber attack on me was because I said I wouldnt believe a posters source. Not the poster but their source.
I've been off the site since my last post.. and counted 7 threads where people have brought my name into it.
And on the day of my last post. There were 8 posts about me before I'd even logged on.
So yes there is a bullying group on here. But no 1 moderating is interested. |
I think Phil does a decent job here in keeping a balance. Discussions do get heated, it's the nature of them. We all share our love of the club but it doesn't mean we are all the same.
If you get into a debate, you can always just stop it. The forum doesn't want to become totally bland. There just has to be a balance. |  |
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| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 19:44 - Jun 3 with 1196 views | jaykay |
| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 18:46 - Jun 3 by chrismakin |
That's how it came across Phil not a misrepresentation just how it came across. |
so that argument could be used in every post on here |  |
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| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 20:01 - Jun 3 with 1151 views | MattinLondon |
| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 19:30 - Jun 3 by nodge_blue |
I think Phil does a decent job here in keeping a balance. Discussions do get heated, it's the nature of them. We all share our love of the club but it doesn't mean we are all the same.
If you get into a debate, you can always just stop it. The forum doesn't want to become totally bland. There just has to be a balance. |
Exactly this. No one with an ounce of sense wants a vanilla bland board. And this is why this is such a great site as the views on football, history, politics etc are interesting and do sometimes get heated.
Also, the role of the moderator isn’t to protect a posters sensibilities or to stop that person from getting ‘pilled on’ but to stop such argument from getting abusive, libellous and downright vile.
If, for example, I was to post something ‘edgy’ or ‘controversial’ without the evidence to backup such an argument then I wouldn’t class it as bullying if thirty posters replied with actual evidence telling me that my reasoning was flawed. That is not bullying and if people think it is then they shouldn’t be on the internet at all. |  | | |
| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 20:06 - Jun 3 with 1132 views | vapour_trail |
| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 19:30 - Jun 3 by nodge_blue |
I think Phil does a decent job here in keeping a balance. Discussions do get heated, it's the nature of them. We all share our love of the club but it doesn't mean we are all the same.
If you get into a debate, you can always just stop it. The forum doesn't want to become totally bland. There just has to be a balance. |
Bang on nodge.
I despair of the ones who prod and poke away and then go running looking for Phil et al to intervene and fight battles for them.
W@nkers. |  |
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| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 20:13 - Jun 3 with 1097 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Liking the way this thread has caused a couple of pages of posts calling out a poster who clearly struggles with those sorts of reactions, despite said poster being incredibly inoffensive and easily ignored if you just think they post too much...  |  |
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| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 21:08 - Jun 3 with 1016 views | Yallop |
| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 18:22 - Jun 3 by jeera |
There are respected long-term posters who have ceased posting because of you.
You are so way off with this constant victim claiming.
Lots, and I mean lots, of nice, regular, decent people have asked you on many occasions to reconsider your style a bit, that's it. That's all.
You have shown them utter contempt and out-rightly ignored them.
That bit's on you, not everyone else. |
If he bothers you that much just leave the chap alone and pop him on ignore. |  | | |
| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 21:40 - Jun 3 with 922 views | 26_Paz |
My two cents on the situation.
I think posters view the forum very differently. I’ll use a university analogy. Some see the forum as being like the student bar. A place to discuss your opinions on things casually. Some see it like a formal debating society where you can’t just shoot the breeze, you have to fully reference everything to peer reviewed journals.
This difference of approaches causes friction. There are certainly some characters here who possibly get a bit overheated with that friction ... if someone is using the forum differently to you and you don’t like it just ignore them. |  |
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| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 21:44 - Jun 3 with 931 views | jeera |
| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 21:08 - Jun 3 by Yallop |
If he bothers you that much just leave the chap alone and pop him on ignore. |
If I bother you that much you are free to do the same bud.
If you bothered to read what I said you'd see there have been a number of posters complaining.
Perhaps you'd like to pop them all a message individually with the same advice, or maybe it would be easier if just one person took it on board. What do you reckon?
Maybe all 20 of them are wrong. [Post edited 3 Jun 2021 21:46]
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| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 21:45 - Jun 3 with 937 views | gtsb1966 |
Interestingly as I write the original post has 31 uppies yet not one from Spruce, Footers, Herbivore, Badger or Jeera . Make of that what you will. Goodnight |  | | |
| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 21:49 - Jun 3 with 910 views | jeera |
| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 21:45 - Jun 3 by gtsb1966 |
Interestingly as I write the original post has 31 uppies yet not one from Spruce, Footers, Herbivore, Badger or Jeera . Make of that what you will. Goodnight |
"I'll never forget this".
Right bully me, ready to jump in a cab at night to visit a complete stranger to see if I can help.
You are welcome btw.
What a lovely guy you are. | |
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| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 21:50 - Jun 3 with 907 views | footers |
| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 21:45 - Jun 3 by gtsb1966 |
Interestingly as I write the original post has 31 uppies yet not one from Spruce, Footers, Herbivore, Badger or Jeera . Make of that what you will. Goodnight |
You'd have to be a seriously wet lettuce to be bullied by me!
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| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 21:52 - Jun 3 with 890 views | footers |
| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 21:49 - Jun 3 by jeera |
"I'll never forget this".
Right bully me, ready to jump in a cab at night to visit a complete stranger to see if I can help.
You are welcome btw.
What a lovely guy you are. |
You're a good egg, jeers. Not sure what's got into gtsb recently, but he never used to be such a tart. | |
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| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 21:53 - Jun 3 with 884 views | eireblue |
| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 21:45 - Jun 3 by gtsb1966 |
Interestingly as I write the original post has 31 uppies yet not one from Spruce, Footers, Herbivore, Badger or Jeera . Make of that what you will. Goodnight |
Hmmm, none from the TWTD suffix 3 either. |  | | |
| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 21:54 - Jun 3 with 876 views | wkj |
For what it's worth-
disagreeing is not bullying
nuance is not bullying
multiple people having a similar point of view is not a clique
And Spats on this forum are ridiculously tame vs almost every forum I frequent (not to mention the usual implosions on fb groups)
We just have a board where a lot of people want to be the loudest, and when there is a reaction they feel bullied.
FWIW - if someone feels they're being bullied and fails to PM those they feel are to blame to attempt to sort it out, they're doing themselves a massive whoopsie. If you get abuse from someone in the pm reply, then boom - you're being bullied. Report it as abuse, supply the proof and the situation is addressed.
Publicly crying fowl is merely just an act of posturing and trying to prime yet another precious public pantomime in my opinion. |  |
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| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 21:56 - Jun 3 with 862 views | jeera |
| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 21:52 - Jun 3 by footers |
You're a good egg, jeers. Not sure what's got into gtsb recently, but he never used to be such a tart. |
There's been a good vibe on here all evening then it all starts again.
A few friendly chats going around etc... then.
It's the same people every time who never quite mentally made it from the playground.
Still, "Never bovvering to learn nuffink never did me no 'arm" and all that hey? | |
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| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 21:58 - Jun 3 with 843 views | MattinLondon |
| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 21:50 - Jun 3 by footers |
You'd have to be a seriously wet lettuce to be bullied by me!
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| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 21:58 - Jun 3 with 827 views | 26_Paz |
| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 21:54 - Jun 3 by wkj |
For what it's worth-
disagreeing is not bullying
nuance is not bullying
multiple people having a similar point of view is not a clique
And Spats on this forum are ridiculously tame vs almost every forum I frequent (not to mention the usual implosions on fb groups)
We just have a board where a lot of people want to be the loudest, and when there is a reaction they feel bullied.
FWIW - if someone feels they're being bullied and fails to PM those they feel are to blame to attempt to sort it out, they're doing themselves a massive whoopsie. If you get abuse from someone in the pm reply, then boom - you're being bullied. Report it as abuse, supply the proof and the situation is addressed.
Publicly crying fowl is merely just an act of posturing and trying to prime yet another precious public pantomime in my opinion. |
I couldn’t work out how to report a PM. Do you know how to do it? | |
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| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 21:59 - Jun 3 with 828 views | DanTheMan |
| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 21:58 - Jun 3 by 26_Paz |
I couldn’t work out how to report a PM. Do you know how to do it? |
Don't think you can do it directly but just message Phil or Gav and let them know |  |
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| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 22:01 - Jun 3 with 818 views | jeera |
| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 21:54 - Jun 3 by wkj |
For what it's worth-
disagreeing is not bullying
nuance is not bullying
multiple people having a similar point of view is not a clique
And Spats on this forum are ridiculously tame vs almost every forum I frequent (not to mention the usual implosions on fb groups)
We just have a board where a lot of people want to be the loudest, and when there is a reaction they feel bullied.
FWIW - if someone feels they're being bullied and fails to PM those they feel are to blame to attempt to sort it out, they're doing themselves a massive whoopsie. If you get abuse from someone in the pm reply, then boom - you're being bullied. Report it as abuse, supply the proof and the situation is addressed.
Publicly crying fowl is merely just an act of posturing and trying to prime yet another precious public pantomime in my opinion. |
"multiple people having a similar point of view is not a clique"
When will this sink in? | |
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| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 22:02 - Jun 3 with 801 views | wkj |
| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 21:58 - Jun 3 by 26_Paz |
I couldn’t work out how to report a PM. Do you know how to do it? |
I can't tell if you're being serious or not, but there are ways on pc, tablet and mobile to capture screen grabs, and there are ways of contacting people in this forum to deliver concerns to. | |
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| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 22:05 - Jun 3 with 777 views | 26_Paz |
| Serious post. Bullying on this site. on 22:02 - Jun 3 by wkj |
I can't tell if you're being serious or not, but there are ways on pc, tablet and mobile to capture screen grabs, and there are ways of contacting people in this forum to deliver concerns to. |
Didn’t know if there was a quick and easy button. It was just someone calling me a ‘piece of sh1t’, I didn’t really want to bother admins with a message about it | |
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