| Can the gammon help me out and tell me what Boris has done 12:00 - Jun 21 with 3793 views | Bluefish |
Well and why they defend him so much?
Brexit shambles - horrendous deal, full of lies, Ireland mess
Covid shambles - deaths, cases, delayed lockdown
Corruption shambles - endless cases of mates and contacts given contracts
What has he got right to be such a poster boy? |  |
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| Can the gammon help me out and tell me what Boris has done on 12:01 - Jun 21 with 1623 views | BlueBadger |
He's upsetting 'the woke brigade', that's basically all that matters to these people. Never mind that their vote is basically an act of self-harm, they're getting to Own The Libs, basically.
For these people, the corruption and bigotry isn't a bug, its a feature. [Post edited 21 Jun 2021 12:07]
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| Can the gammon help me out and tell me what Boris has done on 12:02 - Jun 21 with 1620 views | footers |
Been asking for a list of positive things the Tories have done lately for weeks. But answer came there none. |  |
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| Can the gammon help me out and tell me what Boris has done on 12:04 - Jun 21 with 1597 views | noggin |
All those fruit picking jobs for the unemployed. |  |
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| Can the gammon help me out and tell me what Boris has done on 12:09 - Jun 21 with 1543 views | Iwasthere |
I see all the usual echo chamber have replied. The rest of us are not interested in non football posts. Why is this in the football section, feeling a little lonely? |  | | |
| Can the gammon help me out and tell me what Boris has done on 12:10 - Jun 21 with 1532 views | jaykay |
made a honest woman of Carrie Symonds  |  |
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| Can the gammon help me out and tell me what Boris has done on 12:11 - Jun 21 with 1534 views | BlueBadger |
| Can the gammon help me out and tell me what Boris has done on 12:09 - Jun 21 by Iwasthere |
I see all the usual echo chamber have replied. The rest of us are not interested in non football posts. Why is this in the football section, feeling a little lonely? |
Whilst you're here, could you tell us what is about the openly corrupt, incompetent and bigoted current incarnation of the Tory party that appeals to you?
We're just trying to reach across the divide here... [Post edited 21 Jun 2021 12:11]
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| Can the gammon help me out and tell me what Boris has done on 12:13 - Jun 21 with 1526 views | GeoffSentence |
Brexit is a shambles because of all the new rules brought in by the EU and that they are being awkward.
Covid would be difficult for anyone, you've got to feel sorry for him, he's done his best in very trying circumstances.
It's not corruption, they had to move fast to get deals done because of covid. For that reason they had to go to people they knew. We should be pleased that they pulled out all the stops to get things done quickly. |  |
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| Can the gammon help me out and tell me what Boris has done on 12:13 - Jun 21 with 1519 views | TieDyedIn95 |
| Can the gammon help me out and tell me what Boris has done on 12:01 - Jun 21 by BlueBadger |
He's upsetting 'the woke brigade', that's basically all that matters to these people. Never mind that their vote is basically an act of self-harm, they're getting to Own The Libs, basically.
For these people, the corruption and bigotry isn't a bug, its a feature. [Post edited 21 Jun 2021 12:07]
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I don't understand why people think the Tories are anti-woke? They may talk a big game on issues like immigration and Europe, but they have been in power 11 years, all this "woke" stuff including gay-marriage and the hate crime laws were implemented by them and not Labour. It was the Conservatives that have openly worked to introduce the gender neutral, and trans equality stuff into laws and education, the argument has maybe been that they haven't moved as fast as some on the left would have liked but ultimately they have been the ones to introduce this "woke" stuff as the oldies call it, meanwhile their voters are blaming Labour for it. The joke's on the bigots because they are in fact voting for the things they don't like just because they have been told Brexit and Immigration by the Tories (immigration ... which is more chaotic and in greater numbers than under Labour) and because they are too lazy to do the research they think they are actually stopping it by voting for the Conservatives.
They are absolute idiots on every level. |  |
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| Can the gammon help me out and tell me what Boris has done on 12:15 - Jun 21 with 1506 views | TieDyedIn95 |
| Can the gammon help me out and tell me what Boris has done on 12:13 - Jun 21 by GeoffSentence |
Brexit is a shambles because of all the new rules brought in by the EU and that they are being awkward.
Covid would be difficult for anyone, you've got to feel sorry for him, he's done his best in very trying circumstances.
It's not corruption, they had to move fast to get deals done because of covid. For that reason they had to go to people they knew. We should be pleased that they pulled out all the stops to get things done quickly. |
By earning their families and donors companies millions to provide sub par equipment, apps and services? | |
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| Can the gammon help me out and tell me what Boris has done on 12:17 - Jun 21 with 1503 views | BlueBadger |
| Can the gammon help me out and tell me what Boris has done on 12:13 - Jun 21 by TieDyedIn95 |
I don't understand why people think the Tories are anti-woke? They may talk a big game on issues like immigration and Europe, but they have been in power 11 years, all this "woke" stuff including gay-marriage and the hate crime laws were implemented by them and not Labour. It was the Conservatives that have openly worked to introduce the gender neutral, and trans equality stuff into laws and education, the argument has maybe been that they haven't moved as fast as some on the left would have liked but ultimately they have been the ones to introduce this "woke" stuff as the oldies call it, meanwhile their voters are blaming Labour for it. The joke's on the bigots because they are in fact voting for the things they don't like just because they have been told Brexit and Immigration by the Tories (immigration ... which is more chaotic and in greater numbers than under Labour) and because they are too lazy to do the research they think they are actually stopping it by voting for the Conservatives.
They are absolute idiots on every level. |
The gay marriage vote only went though because of Labour and Lib Dem MPs. Over 50% of Tory MPs voted against it. Had the Tories got a majority in 2013 like they do now, it wouldn't have gone through. Hell, it probably wouldn't even have cleared first reading.
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2013/05/blow-cameron-128-tory-mps-vote-aga [Post edited 21 Jun 2021 12:19]
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| Can the gammon help me out and tell me what Boris has done on 12:18 - Jun 21 with 1475 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Can the gammon help me out and tell me what Boris has done on 12:15 - Jun 21 by TieDyedIn95 |
By earning their families and donors companies millions to provide sub par equipment, apps and services? |
I'm assuming GS was making a sarcastic point illustrating how the failings are being explained away by those not willing to see. But I could be wrong. |  |
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| Can the gammon help me out and tell me what Boris has done on 12:20 - Jun 21 with 1473 views | GeoffSentence |
| Can the gammon help me out and tell me what Boris has done on 12:15 - Jun 21 by TieDyedIn95 |
By earning their families and donors companies millions to provide sub par equipment, apps and services? |
Sorry, I can't go any further with the excuses. These are highlights from what I have heard or seen written by people who somehow like BJ. In all honesty I don't think any of them dig too deep. | |
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| Can the gammon help me out and tell me what Boris has done on 12:20 - Jun 21 with 1468 views | TieDyedIn95 |
| Can the gammon help me out and tell me what Boris has done on 12:17 - Jun 21 by BlueBadger |
The gay marriage vote only went though because of Labour and Lib Dem MPs. Over 50% of Tory MPs voted against it. Had the Tories got a majority in 2013 like they do now, it wouldn't have gone through. Hell, it probably wouldn't even have cleared first reading.
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2013/05/blow-cameron-128-tory-mps-vote-aga [Post edited 21 Jun 2021 12:19]
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Still, they were in Government and their top brass supported it and since then have they attempted to repeal any of that since they have had majorities? If you look at the Tory party social media it's all pride flags and whatnot. If you are a homophobe and voting Conservative you are an idiot basically. | |
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| Can the gammon help me out and tell me what Boris has done on 12:21 - Jun 21 with 1457 views | GeoffSentence |
| Can the gammon help me out and tell me what Boris has done on 12:18 - Jun 21 by Swansea_Blue |
I'm assuming GS was making a sarcastic point illustrating how the failings are being explained away by those not willing to see. But I could be wrong. |
You were right. | |
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| Can the gammon help me out and tell me what Boris has done on 12:22 - Jun 21 with 1451 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Can the gammon help me out and tell me what Boris has done on 12:20 - Jun 21 by GeoffSentence |
Sorry, I can't go any further with the excuses. These are highlights from what I have heard or seen written by people who somehow like BJ. In all honesty I don't think any of them dig too deep. |
You forgot the 'they're all as bad as each other' excuse. | |
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| Can the gammon help me out and tell me what Boris has done on 12:22 - Jun 21 with 1451 views | BlueBadger |
| Can the gammon help me out and tell me what Boris has done on 12:20 - Jun 21 by TieDyedIn95 |
Still, they were in Government and their top brass supported it and since then have they attempted to repeal any of that since they have had majorities? If you look at the Tory party social media it's all pride flags and whatnot. If you are a homophobe and voting Conservative you are an idiot basically. |
At least two contemporary cabinet members voted against it at the time. Several current and recent ministers also did. | |
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| Can the gammon help me out and tell me what Boris has done on 12:22 - Jun 21 with 1445 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Can the gammon help me out and tell me what Boris has done on 12:21 - Jun 21 by GeoffSentence |
You were right. |
That's a collectors item then! | |
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| Can the gammon help me out and tell me what Boris has done on 12:24 - Jun 21 with 1442 views | GeoffSentence |
| Can the gammon help me out and tell me what Boris has done on 12:22 - Jun 21 by Swansea_Blue |
You forgot the 'they're all as bad as each other' excuse. |
I did forget that.
It is an absolute classic too.
My top source of Tory excuses is from my aging parents-in-law and that is one they drag out all the time. | |
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| Can the gammon help me out and tell me what Boris has done on 12:25 - Jun 21 with 1441 views | homer_123 |
| Can the gammon help me out and tell me what Boris has done on 12:13 - Jun 21 by GeoffSentence |
Brexit is a shambles because of all the new rules brought in by the EU and that they are being awkward.
Covid would be difficult for anyone, you've got to feel sorry for him, he's done his best in very trying circumstances.
It's not corruption, they had to move fast to get deals done because of covid. For that reason they had to go to people they knew. We should be pleased that they pulled out all the stops to get things done quickly. |
Well played sir! |  |
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| Can the gammon help me out and tell me what Boris has done on 12:28 - Jun 21 with 1418 views | Bluefish |
| Can the gammon help me out and tell me what Boris has done on 12:20 - Jun 21 by TieDyedIn95 |
Still, they were in Government and their top brass supported it and since then have they attempted to repeal any of that since they have had majorities? If you look at the Tory party social media it's all pride flags and whatnot. If you are a homophobe and voting Conservative you are an idiot basically. |
I'll correct that......
 If you are a homophobe OR voting Conservative you are an idiot basically | |
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| Can the gammon help me out and tell me what Boris has done on 12:28 - Jun 21 with 1418 views | HighgateBlue |
| Can the gammon help me out and tell me what Boris has done on 12:17 - Jun 21 by BlueBadger |
The gay marriage vote only went though because of Labour and Lib Dem MPs. Over 50% of Tory MPs voted against it. Had the Tories got a majority in 2013 like they do now, it wouldn't have gone through. Hell, it probably wouldn't even have cleared first reading.
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2013/05/blow-cameron-128-tory-mps-vote-aga [Post edited 21 Jun 2021 12:19]
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No no. That's not right. It was voted through by 400 to 175. If the Tories had had 100 more MPs and if ALL of those additional Tories had voted against it, the legislation would still have passed. And as you know, about half of Tories voted for it.
I voted Lib Dem, so I have no desire to defend the Tories, but please, a bit of accuracy and fairness. We're entitled to our own opinions but not our own facts. |  | | |
| Can the gammon help me out and tell me what Boris has done on 12:30 - Jun 21 with 1400 views | BlueBadger |
| Can the gammon help me out and tell me what Boris has done on 12:28 - Jun 21 by HighgateBlue |
No no. That's not right. It was voted through by 400 to 175. If the Tories had had 100 more MPs and if ALL of those additional Tories had voted against it, the legislation would still have passed. And as you know, about half of Tories voted for it.
I voted Lib Dem, so I have no desire to defend the Tories, but please, a bit of accuracy and fairness. We're entitled to our own opinions but not our own facts. |
Strictly speaking, fewer than half of them voted for it, not 'about half'.
And several of those who voted against it are still in parliament and have held or currently hold ministerial posts, | |
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| Can the gammon help me out and tell me what Boris has done on 12:32 - Jun 21 with 1383 views | chicoazul |
| Can the gammon help me out and tell me what Boris has done on 12:13 - Jun 21 by GeoffSentence |
Brexit is a shambles because of all the new rules brought in by the EU and that they are being awkward.
Covid would be difficult for anyone, you've got to feel sorry for him, he's done his best in very trying circumstances.
It's not corruption, they had to move fast to get deals done because of covid. For that reason they had to go to people they knew. We should be pleased that they pulled out all the stops to get things done quickly. |
The new rules that we agreed with? |  |
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| Can the gammon help me out and tell me what Boris has done on 12:33 - Jun 21 with 1374 views | Iwasthere |
| Can the gammon help me out and tell me what Boris has done on 12:11 - Jun 21 by BlueBadger |
Whilst you're here, could you tell us what is about the openly corrupt, incompetent and bigoted current incarnation of the Tory party that appeals to you?
We're just trying to reach across the divide here... [Post edited 21 Jun 2021 12:11]
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Has Harper signed yet ? Has Cook managed to con Richardson to sign players that he doesn't want?
Not interested in all your political cr*p. | | | |
| Can the gammon help me out and tell me what Boris has done on 12:34 - Jun 21 with 1372 views | lowhouseblue |
politics on social media is currently so divisive, tribal, aggressive and unpleasant that it's achieved the seemingly impossible. people look at the shouty alternatives that are on offer and decide that boris is the better human being. congrats. |  |
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