| So my friend is trying to persuade... 16:47 - Jul 1 with 5883 views | Fixed_It |
...her daughter not to get jabbed due to 'the vaccine not being tested properly'. Her son is ignoring the advice because he wants to go partying abroad, but the daughter isn't getting jabbed because of the 'risk to fertility'. Clearly, this is twaddle. What are the social and moral arguments in favour of youngsters (early 20s in this case) getting jabbed? |  |
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| So my friend is trying to persuade... on 17:12 - Jul 1 with 1077 views | clive_baker |
| So my friend is trying to persuade... on 16:55 - Jul 1 by Kieran_Knows |
Cheers J2, although I wasn't intending that as a 'look at me', ha! Just wanted to add to the thread! |
Many congratulations chap. Is it your first? |  |
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| So my friend is trying to persuade... on 17:38 - Jul 1 with 1038 views | SitfcB |
| So my friend is trying to persuade... on 16:53 - Jul 1 by Kieran_Knows |
My missus is 28 and pregnant, and she won't be having the vaccine until the babe is born (Xmas time). She has had mixed signals from doctors etc about this, so she's not taking it just to be on the safe side. |
Congratulations mate! |  |
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| So my friend is trying to persuade... on 17:40 - Jul 1 with 1041 views | BlueBadger |
| So my friend is trying to persuade... on 16:52 - Jul 1 by Fixed_It |
Devil's advocate - but do we know how it will affect fertility or foetuses? |
With any luck, it'll kill a few unvaccinated stupid people so the babies the future will be marginally clever? |  |
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| So my friend is trying to persuade... on 17:40 - Jul 1 with 1038 views | Kieran_Knows |
| So my friend is trying to persuade... on 17:01 - Jul 1 by jeera |
I can fully understand if someone is already pregnant wanting to hold off.
Completely understand that. That's not the same thing as someone who isn't expecting excusing themselves from having the thing to safeguard themselves and the wider population.
Congratulations to you both. |
Cheers Jeera, appreciate it.
As I said in my previous post, it was the mixed signals she had been getting from her GP, midwife and the doctors/nurses at the hospital which made/us err on the side of caution (forgive me, I can’t remember who from the above said it was safe to have it/who said she was best to wait). She had been willing to get it, even when pregnant. |  |
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| So my friend is trying to persuade... on 17:41 - Jul 1 with 1028 views | Kieran_Knows |
| So my friend is trying to persuade... on 17:12 - Jul 1 by clive_baker |
Many congratulations chap. Is it your first? |
Cheers Clive. It sure is! | |
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| So my friend is trying to persuade... on 17:42 - Jul 1 with 1027 views | Kieran_Knows |
| So my friend is trying to persuade... on 17:38 - Jul 1 by SitfcB |
Congratulations mate! |
Cheers Sitters!
Apologies fixers for slightly derailing the thread! | |
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| So my friend is trying to persuade... on 17:48 - Jul 1 with 1015 views | NthQldITFC |
| So my friend is trying to persuade... on 16:56 - Jul 1 by footers |
It's fine. The only side effect I had was a desire to buy the latest Microsoft Office suite. But the effect wore off after a few days. |
Perhaps you're out of transmitter range? |  |
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| So my friend is trying to persuade... on 17:50 - Jul 1 with 1015 views | hoppy |
| So my friend is trying to persuade... on 16:53 - Jul 1 by Kieran_Knows |
My missus is 28 and pregnant, and she won't be having the vaccine until the babe is born (Xmas time). She has had mixed signals from doctors etc about this, so she's not taking it just to be on the safe side. |
Has the dad been jabbed, do you know? |  |
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| So my friend is trying to persuade... on 17:54 - Jul 1 with 1014 views | ip6blue |
Size of the vaccine does 0.3ml. Size of alcohol consumed during a session? Go figure |  | | |
| So my friend is trying to persuade... on 17:56 - Jul 1 with 1007 views | gtsb1966 |
I've heard a few people say they won't have it because they don't know what is in it and they don't want that in their body but will happily ingest food and drink with more added chemicals than paint, wash clothes with washing liquid laden with chemicals and spray deodorants, perfumes/aftershaves all over their body. Their argument doesn't hold up at all. |  | | |
| So my friend is trying to persuade... on 17:58 - Jul 1 with 1000 views | Kieran_Knows |
| So my friend is trying to persuade... on 17:50 - Jul 1 by hoppy |
Has the dad been jabbed, do you know? |
Ha, trust you! Yes, I’ve had my first dose a few weeks back, and it knocked me for 6! | |
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| So my friend is trying to persuade... on 18:00 - Jul 1 with 1002 views | DanTheMan |
| So my friend is trying to persuade... on 17:56 - Jul 1 by gtsb1966 |
I've heard a few people say they won't have it because they don't know what is in it and they don't want that in their body but will happily ingest food and drink with more added chemicals than paint, wash clothes with washing liquid laden with chemicals and spray deodorants, perfumes/aftershaves all over their body. Their argument doesn't hold up at all. |
These are the ones that are hardest to persuade to have it. You can't rationally talk to someone about a position they didn't arrive at rationally. |  |
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| So my friend is trying to persuade... on 18:02 - Jul 1 with 993 views | Bluefish |
| So my friend is trying to persuade... on 16:51 - Jul 1 by BlueBlueBluex2 |
I have been jabbed, as has everyone I know but do we know, 100%, that there is no risk sometime in the future? |
Do you know there is 100% no risk when you drink from the tap or use your frying pan? |  |
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| So my friend is trying to persuade... on 18:03 - Jul 1 with 996 views | StokieBlue |
| So my friend is trying to persuade... on 17:56 - Jul 1 by gtsb1966 |
I've heard a few people say they won't have it because they don't know what is in it and they don't want that in their body but will happily ingest food and drink with more added chemicals than paint, wash clothes with washing liquid laden with chemicals and spray deodorants, perfumes/aftershaves all over their body. Their argument doesn't hold up at all. |
It's not really an argument, they simply don't want it for whatever reason they have and that is their excuse so they can justify it to themselves and others.
It's also not true, you can see exactly what is in it:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/regulatory-approval-of-pfizer-biontec
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| So my friend is trying to persuade... on 18:12 - Jul 1 with 981 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| So my friend is trying to persuade... on 16:52 - Jul 1 by J2BLUE |
I can kind of see the logic here. It's a bit of unknown in that area isn't it?
I have no doubts about the vaccine and was grateful to take it asap but this one I can kind of understand unless i've missed some research saying it won't have any impact. |
I'll tell you what does affect fertility.
An intubation tube past your vocal cords. |  |
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| So my friend is trying to persuade... on 18:15 - Jul 1 with 976 views | Eireannach_gorm |
I would be interested to know has there been any studies on the effects on fertility with people who get Covid-19. Obviously the people who have died of Covid-19 would be excluded from such studies. |  | | |
| So my friend is trying to persuade... on 18:21 - Jul 1 with 973 views | WD19 |
The risk of not getting jabbed is greater than the risk of getting jabbed.
Its not rocket science. |  | | |
| So my friend is trying to persuade... on 19:13 - Jul 1 with 935 views | Seablu |
| So my friend is trying to persuade... on 17:54 - Jul 1 by ip6blue |
Size of the vaccine does 0.3ml. Size of alcohol consumed during a session? Go figure |
‘Go figure’?
Where in the US do you live then? |  | | |
| So my friend is trying to persuade... on 19:47 - Jul 1 with 907 views | jeera |
| So my friend is trying to persuade... on 17:58 - Jul 1 by Kieran_Knows |
Ha, trust you! Yes, I’ve had my first dose a few weeks back, and it knocked me for 6! |
Had my second this afternoon and am already wondering if opening a beer in celebration was such a great idea considering I feel a bit light-headed!
Never mind. I probably just need another one to correct things a bit. |  |
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| So my friend is trying to persuade... on 19:59 - Jul 1 with 894 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| So my friend is trying to persuade... on 17:11 - Jul 1 by clive_baker |
Not going all tin hat on you here, but nobody has really proven the safety of it beyond about 6 months yet, have we? Don't get me wrong, I'm double jabbed, but surely there's only so much accelerated testing they can do?
Give it a few years we might all be walking around with tiny d1cks or something. Finally I'll feel like I belong. |
The nurse did say to me "Don't worry, it will just be a little prick." So you could be onto something!
This is how those Twitter conspiracies start, isn't it? | | | |
| So my friend is trying to persuade... on 20:04 - Jul 1 with 889 views | Parky |
| So my friend is trying to persuade... on 16:53 - Jul 1 by Kieran_Knows |
My missus is 28 and pregnant, and she won't be having the vaccine until the babe is born (Xmas time). She has had mixed signals from doctors etc about this, so she's not taking it just to be on the safe side. |
Congratulations Buh🥂 | | | |
| So my friend is trying to persuade... on 20:04 - Jul 1 with 889 views | ADStephenson |
| So my friend is trying to persuade... on 16:53 - Jul 1 by Kieran_Knows |
My missus is 28 and pregnant, and she won't be having the vaccine until the babe is born (Xmas time). She has had mixed signals from doctors etc about this, so she's not taking it just to be on the safe side. |
My wife waited until she'd given birth (three weeks ago today) to our daughter for the same reason. She was so close to the end of her term that it seemed very prudent to wait. |  |
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| So my friend is trying to persuade... on 20:06 - Jul 1 with 878 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| So my friend is trying to persuade... on 16:53 - Jul 1 by Kieran_Knows |
My missus is 28 and pregnant, and she won't be having the vaccine until the babe is born (Xmas time). She has had mixed signals from doctors etc about this, so she's not taking it just to be on the safe side. |
Nice one, congrats! |  |
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| So my friend is trying to persuade... on 20:09 - Jul 1 with 871 views | jeera |
| So my friend is trying to persuade... on 20:04 - Jul 1 by ADStephenson |
My wife waited until she'd given birth (three weeks ago today) to our daughter for the same reason. She was so close to the end of her term that it seemed very prudent to wait. |
Congratulations.
Trust they're both doing well.
As I (and others) said to our fellow poster there, a mum's first instinct is to do whatever she can to protect her baby and rightly so. I am pro-vaccine all day long but if that were me I would be cautious of my missus taking anything we weren't 100% certain of whilst carrying.
Following the birth etc, then sure, it's the wise thing to do. [Post edited 1 Jul 2021 20:16]
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