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2nd bid - £600k - rejected for Crooks... 15:18 - Jul 5 with 4944 viewsKieran_Knows


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2nd bid - £600k - rejected for Crooks... on 15:23 - Jul 5 with 3786 viewshype313

So £750k and he's ours then.

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2nd bid - £600k - rejected for Crooks... on 15:24 - Jul 5 with 3772 viewschenners17

Stop trying to get him on the cheap, offer a sensible amount.
They will just walk away from a deal soon
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2nd bid - £600k - rejected for Crooks... on 15:24 - Jul 5 with 3748 viewsKieran_Knows

2nd bid - £600k - rejected for Crooks... on 15:23 - Jul 5 by hype313

So £750k and he's ours then.


Well, as ever with talks, as the bidding club, we must have had an indication we're getting close to the asking price because putting in offers of £600k to get rejected is just silly.

My guess is it will be £800k with add ons (I suspect Rotherham want £1m for him).

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2nd bid - £600k - rejected for Crooks... on 15:26 - Jul 5 with 3707 viewsabracaDOBRA_

2nd bid - £600k - rejected for Crooks... on 15:24 - Jul 5 by Kieran_Knows

Well, as ever with talks, as the bidding club, we must have had an indication we're getting close to the asking price because putting in offers of £600k to get rejected is just silly.

My guess is it will be £800k with add ons (I suspect Rotherham want £1m for him).


Think it was 1.2 they 'want', so think 1mil should do it with relevant add ons etc
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2nd bid - £600k - rejected for Crooks... on 15:27 - Jul 5 with 3672 viewsitfcjoe

"If they do sell, they would prefer to do business with a Championship club rather than allow him to join a side who are likely to be involved in a promotion battle with them next season."

This is why the paper is getting such detail, including figures

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2nd bid - £600k - rejected for Crooks... on 15:28 - Jul 5 with 3642 viewschrismakin

Rotherham doing their best to get a champ club involved to boost the fee up.

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2nd bid - £600k - rejected for Crooks... on 15:29 - Jul 5 with 3613 viewshype313

2nd bid - £600k - rejected for Crooks... on 15:28 - Jul 5 by chrismakin

Rotherham doing their best to get a champ club involved to boost the fee up.


I think it's probably that and as Joe said above, not wanting to sell to a promotion chasing rival.

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2nd bid - £600k - rejected for Crooks... on 15:34 - Jul 5 with 3501 viewsSomethingBlue

Would probably take from "I understand how players get attracted to clubs for obvious reasons" that he has indicated he wants the move.

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2nd bid - £600k - rejected for Crooks... on 15:36 - Jul 5 with 3432 viewsMetal_Hacker

The positive being Rotherham aren't suggesting they don't want to not sell and the negative being we haven't "matched their valuation"

Double jeopardy for them I suppose - let him go "cheap" to a serious contender for promotion it lessens their own chances , keep him for any longer and with only 12 months left on his current contract , he either goes for nothing or next to nothing

£800k with add ons otherwise concentrate elsewhere maybe - not sure who's in the driving seat here but I would have thought we have quite a decent idea the player would like to join otherwise we wouldn't pursue surely

Would love this to be done but we cant be held to ransom
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2nd bid - £600k - rejected for Crooks... on 15:38 - Jul 5 with 3391 viewschrismakin

2nd bid - £600k - rejected for Crooks... on 15:36 - Jul 5 by Metal_Hacker

The positive being Rotherham aren't suggesting they don't want to not sell and the negative being we haven't "matched their valuation"

Double jeopardy for them I suppose - let him go "cheap" to a serious contender for promotion it lessens their own chances , keep him for any longer and with only 12 months left on his current contract , he either goes for nothing or next to nothing

£800k with add ons otherwise concentrate elsewhere maybe - not sure who's in the driving seat here but I would have thought we have quite a decent idea the player would like to join otherwise we wouldn't pursue surely

Would love this to be done but we cant be held to ransom
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Dangerous game by Rotherham

Reject them and end up missing out on the sale and he will leave for free next summer.

Ashton etc arent stupid. They will pull the plug and move on rather than being held to ransom over it.

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2nd bid - £600k - rejected for Crooks... on 15:39 - Jul 5 with 3377 viewsJakeITFC

2nd bid - £600k - rejected for Crooks... on 15:36 - Jul 5 by Metal_Hacker

The positive being Rotherham aren't suggesting they don't want to not sell and the negative being we haven't "matched their valuation"

Double jeopardy for them I suppose - let him go "cheap" to a serious contender for promotion it lessens their own chances , keep him for any longer and with only 12 months left on his current contract , he either goes for nothing or next to nothing

£800k with add ons otherwise concentrate elsewhere maybe - not sure who's in the driving seat here but I would have thought we have quite a decent idea the player would like to join otherwise we wouldn't pursue surely

Would love this to be done but we cant be held to ransom
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Feels to me like Warne knows he's going to go and is setting it up to be a 'money we couldn't turn down' story so the club can save some face. Also gives a promotion rival a bad name by insinuating that we are just chucking money around to get up.
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2nd bid - £600k - rejected for Crooks... on 15:42 - Jul 5 with 3302 viewschrismakin

2nd bid - £600k - rejected for Crooks... on 15:39 - Jul 5 by JakeITFC

Feels to me like Warne knows he's going to go and is setting it up to be a 'money we couldn't turn down' story so the club can save some face. Also gives a promotion rival a bad name by insinuating that we are just chucking money around to get up.


I do love the local news involved in those clubs we talk to and the apparent millions we are spending.

It's no different to any other club. It's based on the clubs income. Not our fault we may have a bigger income than some others. Doesnt mean we are going all derby about it.
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2nd bid - £600k - rejected for Crooks... on 15:43 - Jul 5 with 3275 viewsBlueBlood90

We must be getting strong signals from the player/his agent that he would like to come here for us to keep pursuing this.

I do think we're taking the mick a little bit by offering such a low amount. Surely they wouldn't consider selling to a divisional rival for less than £1m.

If we keep plodding along offering another £100k on top of already poor offers then we're just giving other potential buyers more time to stump up the cash they want so if we have the money available and he's our prime target then just get it over the line ASAP.

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2nd bid - £600k - rejected for Crooks... on 15:45 - Jul 5 with 3219 viewsStokieBlue

2nd bid - £600k - rejected for Crooks... on 15:43 - Jul 5 by BlueBlood90

We must be getting strong signals from the player/his agent that he would like to come here for us to keep pursuing this.

I do think we're taking the mick a little bit by offering such a low amount. Surely they wouldn't consider selling to a divisional rival for less than £1m.

If we keep plodding along offering another £100k on top of already poor offers then we're just giving other potential buyers more time to stump up the cash they want so if we have the money available and he's our prime target then just get it over the line ASAP.


I guess with only one year left on his contract we don't think it'll take such a huge offer.

He will go for nothing if he stays another year.

SB
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2nd bid - £600k - rejected for Crooks... on 15:47 - Jul 5 with 3204 viewstractorboy1978

2nd bid - £600k - rejected for Crooks... on 15:43 - Jul 5 by BlueBlood90

We must be getting strong signals from the player/his agent that he would like to come here for us to keep pursuing this.

I do think we're taking the mick a little bit by offering such a low amount. Surely they wouldn't consider selling to a divisional rival for less than £1m.

If we keep plodding along offering another £100k on top of already poor offers then we're just giving other potential buyers more time to stump up the cash they want so if we have the money available and he's our prime target then just get it over the line ASAP.


I don't think £600k for a player with one year left on his deal is unreasonable. Especially considering (as already mentioned in this thread) it appears he's indicated he wants the move. Rotherham are in a pretty weak position here unless a Championship club decides they want to stump up the money. And even then it may not be a Championship club that will double Crooks money on (presumably) a 3 year deal.
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Dunno, we haven't got Sheepy telling the media how desperate we are to sign him here. Plus Crooks is very good at this level rather than just a midfield trundler.

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2nd bid - £600k - rejected for Crooks... on 15:49 - Jul 5 with 3146 viewsWD19

2nd bid - £600k - rejected for Crooks... on 15:45 - Jul 5 by StokieBlue

I guess with only one year left on his contract we don't think it'll take such a huge offer.

He will go for nothing if he stays another year.

SB


We should ask Peterborough to buy him for 700k and sell him on to us for 800k.
Quickest £100k they will ever make.
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Paul Warne is a massive.... on 15:53 - Jul 5 with 3090 viewsBloots

....budgie.

Just saying.

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2nd bid - £600k - rejected for Crooks... on 15:59 - Jul 5 with 3005 viewsBlueyandCrazy

2nd bid - £600k - rejected for Crooks... on 15:24 - Jul 5 by chenners17

Stop trying to get him on the cheap, offer a sensible amount.
They will just walk away from a deal soon


Easy to say when its not your money

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2nd bid - £600k - rejected for Crooks... on 16:00 - Jul 5 with 2981 viewsHARRY10

2nd bid - £600k - rejected for Crooks... on 15:38 - Jul 5 by chrismakin

Dangerous game by Rotherham

Reject them and end up missing out on the sale and he will leave for free next summer.

Ashton etc arent stupid. They will pull the plug and move on rather than being held to ransom over it.


eh ?

It's very likely Crooks will move on, so it smacks of us not having the financial muscle to compete.

The transfer window has almost two more months to run, so there is plenty of time for other clubs to raise funds through player sales.
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2nd bid - £600k - rejected for Crooks... on 16:01 - Jul 5 with 2956 viewsN2_Blue

2nd bid - £600k - rejected for Crooks... on 15:59 - Jul 5 by BlueyandCrazy

Easy to say when its not your money


got a horrible feeling we're going to miss out on him.

Can't believe a championship club won't pay 1m for him.

Reckon this is Rotherham getting us all interested, publicly airing the bids, driving price and not wanting to sell to L1 rival.

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2nd bid - £600k - rejected for Crooks... on 16:02 - Jul 5 with 2946 viewstractorboy1978

2nd bid - £600k - rejected for Crooks... on 16:00 - Jul 5 by HARRY10

eh ?

It's very likely Crooks will move on, so it smacks of us not having the financial muscle to compete.

The transfer window has almost two more months to run, so there is plenty of time for other clubs to raise funds through player sales.


Compete with who? It seems pretty clear nobody else wants him at that price at the moment hence Rotherham frantically trying to drum up interest.
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2nd bid - £600k - rejected for Crooks... on 16:04 - Jul 5 with 2927 viewsitfcjoe

2nd bid - £600k - rejected for Crooks... on 16:01 - Jul 5 by N2_Blue

got a horrible feeling we're going to miss out on him.

Can't believe a championship club won't pay 1m for him.

Reckon this is Rotherham getting us all interested, publicly airing the bids, driving price and not wanting to sell to L1 rival.


Rotherham, like any club, want to sell their players for the highest amounts, and to clubs they aren't competing with.....whilst also letting their fans know they are doing every thing they can to keep the players and the bids plus player attitude made it impossible to do so.

If they can't smoke out any interest soon, then we'll get a better price - if they do smoke out interest we will have competition - but that will have happened regardless of what size bid they accept as they would be shopping him round at that fee to try and find a preferred buyer

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