| Can Johnson sink any lower ? 22:55 - Jul 19 with 6683 views | HARRY10 |
"Boris Johnson refused to take the country into lockdown in the autumn because "the people dying are essentially all over 80"#
" also show the prime minister saying he did not "buy all this NHS overwhelmed stuff" months before deaths soared to over 1,000 a day."#
"the PM had to be stopped from going to see the Queen at the start of the pandemic. "
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-lockdown-autumn-cov
a very shallow and weak willed person, who governs by opinion polls and acts according to who is paying him at any given time
a level of incompetence that has fcked up so much from Covid, Brexit, free school meals, PPE, social care, NI protocol and now his lastest failure....levelling up the north for which it appears there is no plan, just another empty promise told to the gormless to garner their votes |  | | |  |
| Can Johnson sink any lower ? on 10:04 - Jul 20 with 1760 views | BlueNomad |
| Can Johnson sink any lower ? on 09:30 - Jul 20 by Timefliesbyintheblue |
You have forgotten Maggie then! |
She had been erased from my memory but I will say she was competent (apart from losing the Falklands) , a redeeming feature that he sorely lacks. |  | | |
| Two for a pair. Mad and obnoxious (n/t) on 10:39 - Jul 20 with 1720 views | factual_blue |
| Maggie. (n/t) on 09:11 - Jul 20 by Bloots |
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| Can Johnson sink any lower ? on 12:05 - Jul 20 with 1679 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Can Johnson sink any lower ? on 09:01 - Jul 20 by BlueNomad |
Please don't ever refer to him as Boris - it sounds affectionate. We have never called a previous PM by their first name since Churchill. |
What about man of the people “call me Dave” | | | |
| Can Johnson sink any lower ? on 12:13 - Jul 20 with 1670 views | Darth_Koont |
In answer to the OP though, yes, Johnson can sink lower.
In the absence of any credible opposition and alternative message (in England anyway), he’s free to do whatever he wants.
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| Can Johnson sink any lower ? on 12:42 - Jul 20 with 1633 views | Parsley |
| Can Johnson sink any lower ? on 06:51 - Jul 20 by Gogs |
Not sure if I’ve misconstrued your post but I’ve no interest in trying to weasel Johnson or anyone in this sh!tshow of a government out of anything. I despise the man. All I’m suggesting is I don’t necessarily trust anything Cummings says either |
I'm with you on this. I didn't trust Cummings when he was working for the government so why should I believe every word he says now because it happens to align more with my view that the government is useless. As far as I can tell he hasn't provided evidence to the correct committees but is publishing it on his blog, some of which is behind a paywall so presumably he's using this bbc interview as a promo for his blog which he is making money from. (Is that too cynical?)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jun/08/dominic-cummings-fails-provide- |  | | |
| Can Johnson sink any lower ? on 13:24 - Jul 20 with 1595 views | aardvaark |
| Can Johnson sink any lower ? on 23:07 - Jul 19 by Plums |
Quite frankly a large proportion of the nation deserves all it gets. Unfortunately the rest of us also have to live (or die) with the consequences. |
Exactly. 100% agree. |  |
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| Can Johnson sink any lower ? on 16:06 - Jul 20 with 1519 views | HARRY10 |
| Can Johnson sink any lower ? on 12:42 - Jul 20 by Parsley |
I'm with you on this. I didn't trust Cummings when he was working for the government so why should I believe every word he says now because it happens to align more with my view that the government is useless. As far as I can tell he hasn't provided evidence to the correct committees but is publishing it on his blog, some of which is behind a paywall so presumably he's using this bbc interview as a promo for his blog which he is making money from. (Is that too cynical?)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jun/08/dominic-cummings-fails-provide- |
On the basis of probability.
The government is not refuting any of what he is saying, mindful of what he is saying is correct. and more importantly, he is likely to have tangible proof.
However, what pretty much nails it is Cummings wants this stuff 'out in the open'. One lie, one incorrect claim, and the rest would be treated the same. As well he knows, and so should others.
And I hope one or two on here never serve on a jury, for everyones sake. | | | |
| Can Johnson sink any lower ? on 16:48 - Jul 20 with 1476 views | Gogs |
| Can Johnson sink any lower ? on 16:06 - Jul 20 by HARRY10 |
On the basis of probability.
The government is not refuting any of what he is saying, mindful of what he is saying is correct. and more importantly, he is likely to have tangible proof.
However, what pretty much nails it is Cummings wants this stuff 'out in the open'. One lie, one incorrect claim, and the rest would be treated the same. As well he knows, and so should others.
And I hope one or two on here never serve on a jury, for everyones sake. |
I have served on a jury and the standard of proof is ‘beyond reasonable doubt’ in criminal cases, not a ‘basis of probability’. Not sure what point you’re trying to make there. I reiterate I can’t stand Johnson and I suspect there maybe some truth in what Cummings is saying, but he’s got to come up with the goods, evidence wise, or this whole thing is going nowhere |  | | |
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| It's pathetic isn't it..... on 16:59 - Jul 20 with 1460 views | Bloots |
| Can Johnson sink any lower ? on 12:13 - Jul 20 by Darth_Koont |
In answer to the OP though, yes, Johnson can sink lower.
In the absence of any credible opposition and alternative message (in England anyway), he’s free to do whatever he wants.
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....you hear nothing at all from Starmer and his mob, until Johnson makes yet another almighty c*ck up and then he pipes up saying "we wouldn't have done that".
It's just rinse and repeat.
Somebody needs to give us something to cling on to.
We can't carry on like this, just lurching from one disaster to another.
Sick of it. |  |
| "The sooner he comes back the better, this place has been a disaster without him" - TWTD User (July 2025) |
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| Can Johnson sink any lower ? on 18:11 - Jul 20 with 1407 views | HARRY10 |
| Can Johnson sink any lower ? on 16:48 - Jul 20 by Gogs |
I have served on a jury and the standard of proof is ‘beyond reasonable doubt’ in criminal cases, not a ‘basis of probability’. Not sure what point you’re trying to make there. I reiterate I can’t stand Johnson and I suspect there maybe some truth in what Cummings is saying, but he’s got to come up with the goods, evidence wise, or this whole thing is going nowhere |
go to the bit where I said, if this was a civil case
it might help | | | |
| Can Johnson sink any lower ? on 18:13 - Jul 20 with 1400 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| Can Johnson sink any lower ? on 23:27 - Jul 19 by HARRY10 |
Offensive as those comments (still) are, I don't think they have directly led to deaths - as his refusal to shut down in October. Waiting too long to shut down in March 2020.
The whole mismanagement of the pandemic might have been 'acceptable' were it not to come out he didn't give a flying fck about the those dying, as they were old.
"he then basically reverted and said 'actually the whole thing was a disaster, we should never have done it, I was right in February, we should basically just ignore it and just let the thing wash through the country"
This from the fat cnt who did his best to be seen clapping for the NHS. I doubt though he would have given a fck though about the chaos that idea would have wrought on the NHS, the frontline staff that is. Over 1000 of them died of covid.
"never mind if you fought in WW2 grandad, my paymasters are worried about their rental income on various offices and commercial businesses"
on this, I am reminded of a WWI poem
“Good-morning, good-morning!” the General said
When we met him last week on our way to the line.
Now the soldiers he smiled at are most of 'em dead,
And we're cursing his staff for incompetent swine.
“He's a cheery old card,” grunted Harry to Jack
As they slogged up to Arras with rifle and pack.
But he did for them both by his plan of attack." |
He was only a great poet, he was also a fabulous hairdresser... |  |
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| Can Johnson sink any lower ? on 18:15 - Jul 20 with 1396 views | Gogs |
| Can Johnson sink any lower ? on 18:11 - Jul 20 by HARRY10 |
go to the bit where I said, if this was a civil case
it might help |
it might, but i can't actually see any mention from you of a civil case. Genuinely | | | |
| Can Johnson sink any lower ? on 18:25 - Jul 20 with 1369 views | HARRY10 |
| Can Johnson sink any lower ? on 18:15 - Jul 20 by Gogs |
it might, but i can't actually see any mention from you of a civil case. Genuinely |
it appears that was made in another thread
however, similarly I did not state the proof of evidence should be tested as in a criminal case, as this would not be that
it would be a civil case - hence the use of the word probability | | | |
| Can Johnson sink any lower ? on 18:32 - Jul 20 with 1363 views | eireblue |
| Can Johnson sink any lower ? on 12:42 - Jul 20 by Parsley |
I'm with you on this. I didn't trust Cummings when he was working for the government so why should I believe every word he says now because it happens to align more with my view that the government is useless. As far as I can tell he hasn't provided evidence to the correct committees but is publishing it on his blog, some of which is behind a paywall so presumably he's using this bbc interview as a promo for his blog which he is making money from. (Is that too cynical?)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jun/08/dominic-cummings-fails-provide- |
The issue as I see it is of poor journalism and ego.
Cummings has WhatsApp messages whereby the PM states very stupid things and other things that demonstrate how poor this PM is.
Cummings is using those to further his agenda.
LK and other journalists are reporting this within a narrative of Cummings vs Johnson.
Which is weak.
The only reporting should be on what the PM said and when.
And in much the same way Eddie Mair did a pretty good job on Boris Johnson in the past, any decent journo, should be doing the same now to the PM or anyone from the Cabinet that tries to defend the PM.
The PM and Tory party will be quite happy to see this as Cummings vs Johnson media thing.
Cummings will be quite happy as well as it serves his own ego and Agenda. |  | | |
| Can Johnson sink any lower ? on 18:36 - Jul 20 with 1355 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Can Johnson sink any lower ? on 09:30 - Jul 20 by Timefliesbyintheblue |
You have forgotten Maggie then! |
Always thought her name was f#ck face...maybe it was just the circles I moved in. |  |
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| Can Johnson sink any lower ? on 18:38 - Jul 20 with 1344 views | Gogs |
| Can Johnson sink any lower ? on 18:25 - Jul 20 by HARRY10 |
it appears that was made in another thread
however, similarly I did not state the proof of evidence should be tested as in a criminal case, as this would not be that
it would be a civil case - hence the use of the word probability |
Thanks for unnecessarily patronising me then.
I doubt very much it would ever be tried by jury either. Relatively few civil cases are. Possibly slander by Johnson against Cummings, in which case Cummings might well win. But that's not going to happen.
Can you stop arguing with me? I've made my points. It appears you disagree with me but I really don't care if you do. I stand by everything I've said, and we'll just go around in circles otherwise. I know I started it.
Thanks,
Enjoy the rest of your day. | | | |
| Can Johnson sink any lower ? on 18:51 - Jul 20 with 1312 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Can Johnson sink any lower ? on 18:38 - Jul 20 by Gogs |
Thanks for unnecessarily patronising me then.
I doubt very much it would ever be tried by jury either. Relatively few civil cases are. Possibly slander by Johnson against Cummings, in which case Cummings might well win. But that's not going to happen.
Can you stop arguing with me? I've made my points. It appears you disagree with me but I really don't care if you do. I stand by everything I've said, and we'll just go around in circles otherwise. I know I started it.
Thanks,
Enjoy the rest of your day. |
Dear Gog's,
Your post has made me realise that this forum would be a much nicer place if we formatted our posts as old fashioned style letters. Many thanks.
Yours sincerely,
Banksterdebtslave. | |
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| Can Johnson sink any lower ? on 18:54 - Jul 20 with 1304 views | Gogs |
| Can Johnson sink any lower ? on 18:51 - Jul 20 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Dear Gog's,
Your post has made me realise that this forum would be a much nicer place if we formatted our posts as old fashioned style letters. Many thanks.
Yours sincerely,
Banksterdebtslave. |
Dear BanksterDebtSlave,
No apostrophe in Gogs please.
Boomshanka,
Gogs | | | |
| Can Johnson sink any lower ? on 19:11 - Jul 20 with 1278 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Can Johnson sink any lower ? on 18:54 - Jul 20 by Gogs |
Dear BanksterDebtSlave,
No apostrophe in Gogs please.
Boomshanka,
Gogs |
Tuesday 20th July.
Dear Gogs,
Please forgive me but the error was down to technology. I correctly typed Gogs but this was autocorrected to God's which in my haste I changed to Gog's. Perhaps in future we should conduct the forum via hand written letters and the services of Royal mail.
Yours sincerely,
Banksterdebtslave. | |
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| Can Johnson sink any lower ? on 19:28 - Jul 20 with 1244 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Can Johnson sink any lower ? on 07:17 - Jul 20 by Leaky |
I take it you don't like Boris |
Probably doesn’t like being taken for a mug. |  |
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| Can Johnson sink any lower ? on 19:48 - Jul 20 with 1220 views | HARRY10 |
| Can Johnson sink any lower ? on 18:38 - Jul 20 by Gogs |
Thanks for unnecessarily patronising me then.
I doubt very much it would ever be tried by jury either. Relatively few civil cases are. Possibly slander by Johnson against Cummings, in which case Cummings might well win. But that's not going to happen.
Can you stop arguing with me? I've made my points. It appears you disagree with me but I really don't care if you do. I stand by everything I've said, and we'll just go around in circles otherwise. I know I started it.
Thanks,
Enjoy the rest of your day. |
what a weird post
If you ask a poster a direct question, or challenge what they have posted......
...then...
...............err...
...they will reply | | | |
| Can Johnson sink any lower ? on 19:54 - Jul 20 with 1211 views | Bad_Boy_Mark |
| Can Johnson sink any lower ? on 23:09 - Jul 19 by Illinoisblue |
How the heck are people not storming the gates of No. 10 and demanding his head on a stick? Has any National paper called for his resignation ? What has become of Britain? A race to the bottom with no end in sight. |
I have wondered this for some time now  |  | | |
| Can Johnson sink any lower ? on 19:57 - Jul 20 with 1206 views | NthQldITFC |
Unfortunately he's too big a turd to go 'round the U-bend. We need a metaphorical stick. |  |
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| Can Johnson sink any lower ? on 16:48 - Jul 21 with 1087 views | HARRY10 |
| Can Johnson sink any lower ? on 16:48 - Jul 20 by Gogs |
I have served on a jury and the standard of proof is ‘beyond reasonable doubt’ in criminal cases, not a ‘basis of probability’. Not sure what point you’re trying to make there. I reiterate I can’t stand Johnson and I suspect there maybe some truth in what Cummings is saying, but he’s got to come up with the goods, evidence wise, or this whole thing is going nowhere |
'goods, evidence wise' would be
The prime minister said the "median age" for those dying was "above life expectancy", in a What'sApp message leaked to the BBC by Mr Cummings, the PM's former adviser, adding: "So get Covid and Live longer". | | | |
| Can Johnson sink any lower ? on 17:38 - Jul 21 with 1045 views | ShropshireBluenago09 |
And all evidence coming from an even bigger liar and charlatan, who to believe |  |
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