| Been avoiding it for as long as possible 21:27 - Aug 24 with 4976 views | Illinoisblue |
But just watched the highlights from the MK Dons game. Dear lord. Weak as pi55 for the first goal and incredibly stupid from Evans for the second.
Plenty of time to click, gel, whatever, just fooking win Saturday ffs to shut us all up for a bit.
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| Been avoiding it for as long as possible on 09:50 - Aug 25 with 901 views | SitfcB |
| Been avoiding it for as long as possible on 07:45 - Aug 25 by Vic |
KVY (or was it Bonne?) said they’d been working on the long diagonal ball from the back to him, so the missing out of the midfield at times sounds like it was planned. I all looked a bit Mick MaCarthyesk to me - but then I also remember SBR’s team of the mid 70’s being very much like that. Nothing wrong with it, as long at it’s not all we do. |
It’s what a lot of the fans keep shouting for! Groans around the ground when we hold on to the ball a little bit. Morons. |  |
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| Been avoiding it for as long as possible on 09:58 - Aug 25 with 872 views | phillev231069 |
| Been avoiding it for as long as possible on 08:20 - Aug 25 by Herbivore |
Burley wasn't averse to it as a tactic either, Scowcroft was often used like that whether playing up front or from the right hand side. We also put in some very effective performances under him with Naylor acting as that outlet. |
Seem to remember a similar tactic with Steve Whitton on the right nodding it on from the goal kick, wonder where he is now? |  | | |
| Been avoiding it for as long as possible on 18:48 - Aug 25 with 786 views | ArnieM |
| Been avoiding it for as long as possible on 07:45 - Aug 25 by Vic |
KVY (or was it Bonne?) said they’d been working on the long diagonal ball from the back to him, so the missing out of the midfield at times sounds like it was planned. I all looked a bit Mick MaCarthyesk to me - but then I also remember SBR’s team of the mid 70’s being very much like that. Nothing wrong with it, as long at it’s not all we do. |
….not really . That long diagonal ball was a thing of beauty . Sheer class in fact and had it been done up the A140 we’d have had it shoved down our throats as “world class” for a month. |  |
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| Been avoiding it for as long as possible on 19:17 - Aug 25 with 773 views | Keaneish |
| Been avoiding it for as long as possible on 09:01 - Aug 25 by Cuffy81 |
Bonne certainly looks more of a natural "target man" to play the role upfront by himself - Piggot has looked isolated at times. |
I think Bonne has too. We haven’t got that balance right at all yet. Fraser has been non-existent for most games but he chips in with the necessaries at the right time; another plus compared to previous squads.
Can Pigott play the 10? Ive seen him drop deep for Wimbledon. |  |
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| Been avoiding it for as long as possible on 21:15 - Aug 25 with 740 views | Churchman |
| Been avoiding it for as long as possible on 08:39 - Aug 25 by Mullet |
Always makes me laugh thinking about the "hoofball" moaning and then talking about SBR et al. as the antidote. All whilst ignoring the fact that there's a very famous anecdote about the ball going over the heads of the Dutchmen at first and them revolutionising our play.
The fact no one bemoaned that goal on Saturday because it was excellent says it all. |
Robson’s teams were quite direct before the Dutchmen and going back a season or two, with players like Whymark and Mariner (Johnson was no mug either), why would you not play it up to them? But they did mix it up. Viljoen in the 70s was one heck of a passer and a good all round footballer. Talbot was a good box to box player too and add on Woods on the wing, you’ve got various ways to make the oppositions life a misery.
McCarthy’s teams were far more direct than Robson’s. Its his default setting style of play, whether here, Millwall, Sunderland or wherever. It’s got results for him and with a player on fire, as Murphy was for a few seasons, why not? It’s just not something I enjoy watching when that’s all there is. A good balance is my preference.
The first true long ball teams I remember were Cambridge and of course Wimbledon. Effective but ugly and unwatchable. Watford were similar in the days of Taylor. |  | | |
| Been avoiding it for as long as possible on 23:10 - Aug 25 with 708 views | mikeybloo88 |
| Been avoiding it for as long as possible on 21:15 - Aug 25 by Churchman |
Robson’s teams were quite direct before the Dutchmen and going back a season or two, with players like Whymark and Mariner (Johnson was no mug either), why would you not play it up to them? But they did mix it up. Viljoen in the 70s was one heck of a passer and a good all round footballer. Talbot was a good box to box player too and add on Woods on the wing, you’ve got various ways to make the oppositions life a misery.
McCarthy’s teams were far more direct than Robson’s. Its his default setting style of play, whether here, Millwall, Sunderland or wherever. It’s got results for him and with a player on fire, as Murphy was for a few seasons, why not? It’s just not something I enjoy watching when that’s all there is. A good balance is my preference.
The first true long ball teams I remember were Cambridge and of course Wimbledon. Effective but ugly and unwatchable. Watford were similar in the days of Taylor. |
Muhren was never averse to a long diagonal ... he played a beauty, as I recall, into the box which I think Mariner nodded down for Brazil to spin and score the winner in the 1-0 in that big home game against Villa in 80/81...the pundits were purring about that goal. |  | | |
| Been avoiding it for as long as possible on 07:56 - Aug 26 with 666 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Been avoiding it for as long as possible on 08:28 - Aug 25 by chrismakin |
It's something town have done many times before
Burley with Scowy
Magilton with Walters
Mick with Murphy |
Lyall with Whitton |  |
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| Been avoiding it for as long as possible on 08:07 - Aug 26 with 657 views | Freddy |
It'll be put right this weekend | | | |
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| Been avoiding it for as long as possible on 09:40 - Aug 26 with 602 views | Keaneish |
| Been avoiding it for as long as possible on 08:35 - Aug 25 by Vic |
Long ball or long pass = same thing! We both agree it was anything but an aimless pint out of defense. It was a very, very well executed pas/ball - had that goal been scored in the prem people would have been full of superlatives. |
Beg to differ; a long ball and a long pass are not the same thing. A long ball is often used to turn defenders or to put balls into areas to squeeze the play for a percentage based style approach. A long pass is a deliberate tactical ploy to exploit a weakness in the defence ie: a defender slow on the turn, a defenders lack of pace or poor positioning. | |
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| Been avoiding it for as long as possible on 11:00 - Aug 26 with 564 views | GeoffSentence |
| Been avoiding it for as long as possible on 08:39 - Aug 25 by Mullet |
Always makes me laugh thinking about the "hoofball" moaning and then talking about SBR et al. as the antidote. All whilst ignoring the fact that there's a very famous anecdote about the ball going over the heads of the Dutchmen at first and them revolutionising our play.
The fact no one bemoaned that goal on Saturday because it was excellent says it all. |
If you watch the full 1978 FA Cup FInal, with Jackie Charlton as the co-commentator, he comments early on that ipswich are a long ball team. It really only was with the introduction of the Dutchmen that we started playing a more passing game. |  |
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| Been avoiding it for as long as possible on 12:07 - Aug 26 with 544 views | kizaitfc |
| Been avoiding it for as long as possible on 08:18 - Aug 25 by Keaneish |
Nah. The opposite. We left Twine unmarked as it allowed Fraser a free licence (who assisted our second). For all Twine’s possession in front of our back four, he never opened us up once from open play. 2 mistakes aside, we win the game - job done. Given they barely got behind us all game, “the no shape to defence” is a misnomer too. We all see the game differently but I disagree with these points. |
It's a very fair point, I think the huge change in style is surprising some people.
We have removed the CDM to play a no.10 so there will be gaps but defended correctly the opposition shouldn't get in behind, and as you say MK Dons rarely did.
At times it does seem like the opposition glide through our midfield too easily and this is something I suspect will be looked at.
All in all I am far happier to play more attacking football than sit back and counter attack as our previous managers have done. | |
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