| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 12:23 - Aug 25 with 4168 views | Wickets |
Like most on here i hate praising Norwich but over the last decade they have got so much more right then we do IMO . The above is yet another example their attitude to cup matches as the above result shows while we seem to send our players out with the message that these cup games have little or no importance they (Norwich) seem very much up for them . Love PC and want to back him as much as i can but he seems to have made the same mistake as previous Town managers . I would be ok with our disappointing performances in these competitions if after them we won our league game but if anything it seems to be the opposite . I also feel its disrespectful to the loyal fans that attend these matches . The recent game against a weak Newport side was a great chance to get a moral boosting big win to help kick start what we all hope is going to be a successful season a chance missed . |  | | |  |
| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 16:35 - Aug 25 with 1002 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 16:28 - Aug 25 by Mediocre_Quick |
Rashica carried Bremen and was the only stand out in a p*ss poor team that eventually got relegated from the Bundesliga
Tzolis is allegedly 'the future of greek football'
I hate to say it, but Norwich do pick up some gems sometimes, something I wish we did more often |
Fair enough. I thought he was more a squad player who was on the bench as much as starting for them.
As I say, they buy potential and develop it well and cash in for a good profit. It is a great business model and allows them to showcase some very good talent. Their identification of targets is very successful too. Very rare that they do not improve a player that they sign. A bit like the model Peterborough are working on. |  |
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| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 17:07 - Aug 25 with 967 views | ArnieM |
….. and how much sky money have they had , yet have never yet managed to establish themselves in the top flight (unlike so called smaller clubs )?
They’re a tin pot outfit “ lording it” on the back of sky money. What have they actually achieved in that time …. A plush training ground and a cat one academy the use of which is debatable in the long term . F cuk else ! |  |
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| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 17:12 - Aug 25 with 953 views | Wickets |
| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 14:25 - Aug 25 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Indeed, resting players hasn't exactly helped with league performances for Town, has it?
As far as nodge are concerned, it must be a nice break from the predictability of the league to see them play like that in a cup. I wonder whether their fans will continue to be happy with the club's yoyo model. |
Glad you could see my point most just ignored it as i used Norwich as an example . Dont get me wrong i really hope they get relegated but fear this time round they might not . Maybe i should have used the Luton team of a couple of years ago . They rarely changed their team for cup games had decent cup runs and still got promoted and now look a decent championship outfit . | | | |
| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 18:57 - Aug 25 with 863 views | timothyeo |
| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 16:06 - Aug 25 by Nthsuffolkblue |
I am not convinced. On what basis are Rashica and Tzolis incredibly talented players? Have they played at Premier League level? Or are they more the typical nodge signings? Ones with potential to develop into very good Premier League players. Get them in, develop them, sell them for a big profit. It has been their (very successful) model for many years now. It gets their fans to see some very good players.
If the gap was truly bigger than ever, fewer teams would stay up than ever before. I am not sure that is the case. It has always been the case that teams need to invest to stay in that league when they get there. Instead, they cash in on their most saleable assets and look to develop the next ones. It is a model that serves them very well. |
Rashica very much carried Bremen even in his worst season for them. A couple seasons ago they rejected a £30 million bid from Villa.
Tzolis is a player who Klopp mentioned as being astounded (maybe a little offensive to Norwich lol) that Norwich managed to sign. I think for PAOK last season at 18 years old he had something ridiculous like 10 goals and 16 assists. Because I follow all this stuff on the Athletic I've seen him mentioned for the last couple years as one of the next big things, so I was annoyed when he ended up where he did. |  | | |
| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 19:01 - Aug 25 with 855 views | timothyeo |
| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 17:07 - Aug 25 by ArnieM |
….. and how much sky money have they had , yet have never yet managed to establish themselves in the top flight (unlike so called smaller clubs )?
They’re a tin pot outfit “ lording it” on the back of sky money. What have they actually achieved in that time …. A plush training ground and a cat one academy the use of which is debatable in the long term . F cuk else ! |
I get its Norwich but this stinks of jealous nonsense.
What clubs have established themselves in the prem? There's no such thing outside the top 6. And certainly, none do it with sky money alone, the best example is probably Burnley but they only manage it playing awful football. The next is Brighton but they have a rich owner again. And both are only one bad season from going down.
The other nonsense point you make is what use is a good training facility and Category One academy. Well, the training facilities have presumably enabled them to attract the level of player they've signed this season (you might not know much about them but the wider football world does) and the academy has allowed them to develop 100 million worth of talent in a few years.
No problem ripping into Norwich about lack of trophies and their irrelevant history - but where they are right now is a marker for us and a host of other clubs to aim for. There are a multitude of billionaire owned clubs who have spent far more than Norwich but failed to get promoted in the first place. | | | |
| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 19:38 - Aug 25 with 832 views | BlueyandCrazy |
| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 13:17 - Aug 25 by SitfcB |
And non-League Luton Town in the FA Cup a few years back. |
That defeat to Luton is arguably one of the greatest ever cup upsets given;
- Naaridge we’re premier league and at home
- Luton we’re non league at the time
Sadly it is overlooked when tv look back at the cup upsets of the past;
probably mainly to do with
- Luton not traditionally being non league
- Naaridge being premier league whipping boys
- sadly the decline of the fa cup importance in recent years
On league position basis though it was a bigger upset than
Sutton v Coventry
Wrexham v Arsenal
Hereford v Newcastle
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| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 00:26 - Aug 26 with 698 views | HARRY10 |
| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 16:35 - Aug 25 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Fair enough. I thought he was more a squad player who was on the bench as much as starting for them.
As I say, they buy potential and develop it well and cash in for a good profit. It is a great business model and allows them to showcase some very good talent. Their identification of targets is very successful too. Very rare that they do not improve a player that they sign. A bit like the model Peterborough are working on. |
I think you have rather got this back to front. There is no 'cashing in' merely players inevitably moving to a bigger club. However well clubs of the scums size do there will always be the lure of better pay, and perhaps Champions League football for their players...elsewhere.
The trick then is what to do with the money. The Championship is littered with those who got it wrong. Clubs who overspent in the PL believing in the mythical status of 'consolidating their place'.
For them there us a sense if cashing in (Bournemouth) whereby their vastly reduced income will no longer meet a PL wage, or the remaining stage payments on expensive signings. Many are all too often unable to 'cash in' as other clubs will not pay the fees needed, or meet the current contracts - see Boro, Blackburn, Cardiff, Huddersfield, Hull, Reading or ask why Fulham and WBA did not stay up despite boasts about how much they spent.
If Edwards continues his level of play and a Champs (PL?) club make an offer for him in Jan, are we 'cashing in', or would a sale simply be a recognition of where we currently are in the grand scheme of things ?
For the moment the PL is a risky venture for all but those who enjoy the largesse of European TV income. Those club can afford, and need, to pay top price for players who are proven and can deliver from day one to keep that gravy train going. For the rest, it is a delicate balancing act between trying to buy in proven quality, and signing cheaper options that you believe/hope will come good. Get it wrong with the first, and the costs can be a huge drag in the years following relegation.
That a club the size of Sunderland can get it wrong so badly is an indication of just how precarious football is in the top flight - and a warning to us how difficult it can be to get out of L1, never mind challenging for promotion to the PL. | | | |
| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 08:02 - Aug 26 with 603 views | Freddy |
| Norwich 6 Bournmouth 0 on 19:01 - Aug 25 by timothyeo |
I get its Norwich but this stinks of jealous nonsense.
What clubs have established themselves in the prem? There's no such thing outside the top 6. And certainly, none do it with sky money alone, the best example is probably Burnley but they only manage it playing awful football. The next is Brighton but they have a rich owner again. And both are only one bad season from going down.
The other nonsense point you make is what use is a good training facility and Category One academy. Well, the training facilities have presumably enabled them to attract the level of player they've signed this season (you might not know much about them but the wider football world does) and the academy has allowed them to develop 100 million worth of talent in a few years.
No problem ripping into Norwich about lack of trophies and their irrelevant history - but where they are right now is a marker for us and a host of other clubs to aim for. There are a multitude of billionaire owned clubs who have spent far more than Norwich but failed to get promoted in the first place. |
Arnie is obsessed with Nodge, mainly read on here but everytime there's a thread about them, Arnie wades in with bitterness & jealousy.
Lets face it there's a huge gap between us and them now! | | | |
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