| Cooks coaches 13:37 - Aug 30 with 1900 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
I'm a little confused as to where the negativity about the coaching set up comes from?
I've seen a few posts indicating that the coaches aren't good enough, some have even stereotypically mentioned 'Cooks scouse mates'.
But unless we are the best football educated fan forum in all of football, 99% of us would struggle to name a coach who could do a good job at this level and would come here.
So how do we know they aren't good enough? Given that since the season started, we've only had one full week on the training pitch and the odd day between games, which mainly focuses on recovery. |  |
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| Cooks coaches on 15:28 - Aug 30 with 499 views | Pinewoodblue |
Do you not feel that it would be sensible to have an experienced coach as part of the set up, especially if the role of Assistant Manager is deemed unnecessary? |  |
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| Cooks coaches on 15:34 - Aug 30 with 487 views | chrismakin |
| Cooks coaches on 15:28 - Aug 30 by Pinewoodblue |
Do you not feel that it would be sensible to have an experienced coach as part of the set up, especially if the role of Assistant Manager is deemed unnecessary? |
Who's more experienced for them to work with if its not PC?
When he took Barry and Leam under his arm, they were both inexperienced. One had slight experience as a player coach ( Leam ) but the rest were all young, inexperienced guys.
Jeffers has been coaching a fair while, regardless of level, he's done more coaching than leam did when he became PC's assistant for example. |  |
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| Cooks coaches on 15:37 - Aug 30 with 496 views | Keaneish |
I think a lot of this comes down to the Football Manager generation in truth ie: sign coaches who have more expensive badges and it guarantees player improvement. This of course is nonsense. While there are good levels of knowledge to be gained from more advanced badges, experience accounts for a lot.
Would you take Chris Hogg or Gerrard Nash who I think have a good level of badges versus a Gary Roberts who hasn’t but has played nearly 600 games, won three titles, a couple of pieces of additional silverware, been involved in several play-offs and been involved with several teams or player of the year awards? Couple that with a desire to coach and willingness to do the badges and it poses a good topic of debate.
As I posted previously, there’s a litany of managers and coaches who are deemed credible by name and have the highest level of badges but have failed miserably and disappeared. |  |
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| Cooks coaches on 15:38 - Aug 30 with 486 views | chrismakin |
| Cooks coaches on 15:37 - Aug 30 by Keaneish |
I think a lot of this comes down to the Football Manager generation in truth ie: sign coaches who have more expensive badges and it guarantees player improvement. This of course is nonsense. While there are good levels of knowledge to be gained from more advanced badges, experience accounts for a lot.
Would you take Chris Hogg or Gerrard Nash who I think have a good level of badges versus a Gary Roberts who hasn’t but has played nearly 600 games, won three titles, a couple of pieces of additional silverware, been involved in several play-offs and been involved with several teams or player of the year awards? Couple that with a desire to coach and willingness to do the badges and it poses a good topic of debate.
As I posted previously, there’s a litany of managers and coaches who are deemed credible by name and have the highest level of badges but have failed miserably and disappeared. |
Remember, I could walk into town with my FA Coaching licence............................ it's just a piece of paper that anyone can pay for and get. Would you employ me? not on your life, i'd be a sht coach. | |
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| Cooks coaches on 15:40 - Aug 30 with 482 views | Stadiumofdark |
| Cooks coaches on 15:38 - Aug 30 by chrismakin |
Remember, I could walk into town with my FA Coaching licence............................ it's just a piece of paper that anyone can pay for and get. Would you employ me? not on your life, i'd be a sht coach. |
You'd certainly have an opinion though.... |  | | |
| Cooks coaches on 15:42 - Aug 30 with 473 views | Bluefish |
| Cooks coaches on 15:38 - Aug 30 by chrismakin |
Remember, I could walk into town with my FA Coaching licence............................ it's just a piece of paper that anyone can pay for and get. Would you employ me? not on your life, i'd be a sht coach. |
Which license do you have? |  |
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| Cooks coaches on 15:42 - Aug 30 with 469 views | chrismakin |
| Cooks coaches on 15:40 - Aug 30 by Stadiumofdark |
You'd certainly have an opinion though.... |
lol, very true | |
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| Cooks coaches on 15:48 - Aug 30 with 460 views | chrismakin |
| Cooks coaches on 15:42 - Aug 30 by Bluefish |
Which license do you have? |
B licence BF. | |
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| Cooks coaches on 15:49 - Aug 30 with 460 views | HARRY10 |
| Cooks coaches on 15:23 - Aug 30 by itfcsuth |
We unfortunately have some fans who are quite noxious when talking about people who represent our club - not what I personally would deem to be a supporter.
I remember reading people referring to Lee O’Neil as the PE teacher - all rather distasteful, and incredibly unnecessary.
From the coaching aspect, Jeffers was highly rated at Everton, and Roberts is a long servant of Cook, and have now issues with him moving to coaching after retiring, it’s a natural progression for most and they have to begin that career somewhere.
Ian Craney is qualified but again lacks experience in coaching. I think an experienced number 2 would help all 3 coaches.
The brutal truth is they could be really good coaches day to day, they’ve been working with this squad for 5 games, so it’s hard to make a real judgement - as we aren’t privy to how they work at Playford Road. |
Six competitive games to be precise, plus the friendlies. And they certainly did not have any positive effect on the games with the previous squad either.
It is one of footballs continuous facets that teams will be undone/exposed by a particular weakness - however it is also seen that any particular weakness is quickly addressed and removed where possible. So why are we not dealing with set piece balls into the box ? Surely this is an area you would expect the coaching staff to be dealing with - yet they haven't, and other teams are exploiting it.
If coaches from the opposition can see it, then why not our coaching staff ? And if the latter can, then why have they not dealt with it.
These latter two questions are, I would suggest, the reason for the concerns so many have expressed over the competence of the 'three amigos'. |  | | |
| Cooks coaches on 15:49 - Aug 30 with 456 views | Bluefish |
| Cooks coaches on 15:48 - Aug 30 by chrismakin |
B licence BF. |
Not sure you'd walk in and get a job then | |
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| Cooks coaches on 15:50 - Aug 30 with 451 views | chrismakin |
| Cooks coaches on 15:49 - Aug 30 by Bluefish |
Not sure you'd walk in and get a job then |
I once hung a shirt up, does that count instead? lol | |
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| Cooks coaches on 15:51 - Aug 30 with 449 views | chrismakin |
| Cooks coaches on 15:49 - Aug 30 by HARRY10 |
Six competitive games to be precise, plus the friendlies. And they certainly did not have any positive effect on the games with the previous squad either.
It is one of footballs continuous facets that teams will be undone/exposed by a particular weakness - however it is also seen that any particular weakness is quickly addressed and removed where possible. So why are we not dealing with set piece balls into the box ? Surely this is an area you would expect the coaching staff to be dealing with - yet they haven't, and other teams are exploiting it.
If coaches from the opposition can see it, then why not our coaching staff ? And if the latter can, then why have they not dealt with it.
These latter two questions are, I would suggest, the reason for the concerns so many have expressed over the competence of the 'three amigos'. |
" And they certainly did not have any positive effect on the games with the previous squad either."
Not surprised, they weren;t even here. | |
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| Cooks coaches on 15:54 - Aug 30 with 450 views | Bluefish |
| Cooks coaches on 15:50 - Aug 30 by chrismakin |
I once hung a shirt up, does that count instead? lol |
Are you scouse?
You seem to have spent a lot of money and an incredible amount of time on something that you don't think you are very good at | |
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| Cooks coaches on 15:55 - Aug 30 with 440 views | chrismakin |
| Cooks coaches on 15:54 - Aug 30 by Bluefish |
Are you scouse?
You seem to have spent a lot of money and an incredible amount of time on something that you don't think you are very good at |
As you may tell with my previous year on twtd, mentally went into a different circumstance in life and not one for the better. One of those where life could and probably should have been better, but not to be. | |
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| Cooks coaches on 15:57 - Aug 30 with 438 views | Bluefish |
| Cooks coaches on 15:55 - Aug 30 by chrismakin |
As you may tell with my previous year on twtd, mentally went into a different circumstance in life and not one for the better. One of those where life could and probably should have been better, but not to be. |
I didn't know that. I might post a fair bit but I've never really had the dossier that others have on other posters
Hope all is getting better | |
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| Cooks coaches on 15:59 - Aug 30 with 421 views | chrismakin |
| Cooks coaches on 15:57 - Aug 30 by Bluefish |
I didn't know that. I might post a fair bit but I've never really had the dossier that others have on other posters
Hope all is getting better |
Yeah all good BF, :)
Now, you carry on with your moans :) I don't want to change things. | |
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| Cooks coaches on 16:11 - Aug 30 with 408 views | Bluefish |
| Cooks coaches on 15:59 - Aug 30 by chrismakin |
Yeah all good BF, :)
Now, you carry on with your moans :) I don't want to change things. |
OK happy clapper :) | |
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| Cooks coaches on 16:25 - Aug 30 with 381 views | HARRY10 |
| Cooks coaches on 15:59 - Aug 30 by chrismakin |
Yeah all good BF, :)
Now, you carry on with your moans :) I don't want to change things. |
3 points out of 15, and you don't want to change things ? | | | |
| Cooks coaches on 16:30 - Aug 30 with 370 views | chrismakin |
| Cooks coaches on 16:25 - Aug 30 by HARRY10 |
3 points out of 15, and you don't want to change things ? |
erm, you've kinda missed the injoke there mate. | |
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| Cooks coaches on 17:30 - Aug 30 with 335 views | TheBlueGnu |
London Road, Westcliff-on-Sea, Essex | |
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