| Now I like Southgate 19:35 - Sep 8 with 2646 views | chicoazul |
But I really wish he would abandon this Phillips Rice Mount thing. It’s just lacking that creative spark we will need against the elite in Qatar.
And only he would play 3 rights backs and one centre forward at home against bloody Andorra of all people. |  |
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| Now I like Southgate on 19:38 - Sep 8 with 2430 views | Yallop |
It's worked really well of late. Stick with it for me |  | | |
| Now I like Southgate on 19:38 - Sep 8 with 2425 views | vilanovablue |
I don't think he needs to abandon it, I suspect when Bellingham is starting regularly which can't be too far away it'll naturally disappear. Phillips is moved out of the side, I think that'll be the solution. |  | | |
| Now I like Southgate on 19:44 - Sep 8 with 2389 views | itfcjoe |
For who though? Think the team selected is as good as we can do currently.
The team for Andorra was fine - just made 11 changes and played everyone else in the squad in our normal shape |  |
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| Now I like Southgate on 19:47 - Sep 8 with 2378 views | chicoazul |
| Now I like Southgate on 19:44 - Sep 8 by itfcjoe |
For who though? Think the team selected is as good as we can do currently.
The team for Andorra was fine - just made 11 changes and played everyone else in the squad in our normal shape |
It wasn’t fine though was it? He had to change it after 55 odd minutes. | |
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| Now I like Southgate on 20:01 - Sep 8 with 2343 views | itfcjoe |
| Now I like Southgate on 19:47 - Sep 8 by chicoazul |
It wasn’t fine though was it? He had to change it after 55 odd minutes. |
He didn't have to, we'd have won without those changes | |
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| Now I like Southgate on 20:49 - Sep 8 with 2225 views | ghostofescobar |
You are 2/3 absolutely wrong. The Rice/Philips combination is what has made the difference to this England team. Mount I agree with. Cant really see the point of him at the moment. |  |
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| Now I like Southgate on 20:56 - Sep 8 with 2196 views | chicoazul |
| Now I like Southgate on 20:49 - Sep 8 by ghostofescobar |
You are 2/3 absolutely wrong. The Rice/Philips combination is what has made the difference to this England team. Mount I agree with. Cant really see the point of him at the moment. |
There is no creativity at all in the middle of the pitch. So many times Phillips could move it forward but plays it safe. Saying that he played a lovey forward pass to Mount just now, needs to do more of that. | |
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| Now I like Southgate on 21:18 - Sep 8 with 2130 views | King_of_Portman_Rd |
This is the exact type of match to play Rice and Phillips.
The issue is Mount is having a quiet/poor match (especially 2nd half) and Kane is positionally poor tonight and not giving us a focal point and stretching their defence |  | | |
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| Now I like Southgate on 23:16 - Sep 8 with 1982 views | OsborneOneNil |
| Now I like Southgate on 20:49 - Sep 8 by ghostofescobar |
You are 2/3 absolutely wrong. The Rice/Philips combination is what has made the difference to this England team. Mount I agree with. Cant really see the point of him at the moment. |
Foden - when fit. |  | | |
| Now I like Southgate on 01:26 - Sep 9 with 1895 views | quirkie |
Southgate is going to be the reason why this very talented squad of players will not win the World Cup next year when in reality they have every reason to do so.
This is going to be an amazing opportunity lost and people will look back and think it was so obvious why.
Such a shame, but you can see Southgate doesn't learn. Stubborn little fellow. |  |
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| Now I like Southgate on 07:19 - Sep 9 with 1775 views | BlueBadger |
| Now I like Southgate on 01:26 - Sep 9 by quirkie |
Southgate is going to be the reason why this very talented squad of players will not win the World Cup next year when in reality they have every reason to do so.
This is going to be an amazing opportunity lost and people will look back and think it was so obvious why.
Such a shame, but you can see Southgate doesn't learn. Stubborn little fellow. |
Imagine not changing the methods that got you to a semi-final and a major final. [Post edited 9 Sep 2021 7:19]
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| Now I like Southgate on 08:39 - Sep 9 with 1668 views | IpswichKnight |
We’re so rubbish that the last team to beat us without penalties was Belgium in November last year. Since then ( Italy was a draw which we lost on pens ).
P16 W13 D3 L0 F35 A4
That’s a record pretty much every team would kill for. |  | | |
| Now I like Southgate on 08:42 - Sep 9 with 1661 views | ElephantintheRoom |
England managers always have there irrational foibles - it comes with overegging a part-time job.
Robson would have strapped the corpse of Brian Robson to his white horse if he could - and Southgate is firmly wedded to not losing games which have to be won. | |
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| Now I like Southgate on 08:46 - Sep 9 with 1644 views | itfcjoe |
| Now I like Southgate on 08:39 - Sep 9 by IpswichKnight |
We’re so rubbish that the last team to beat us without penalties was Belgium in November last year. Since then ( Italy was a draw which we lost on pens ).
P16 W13 D3 L0 F35 A4
That’s a record pretty much every team would kill for. |
I was trying to make this point last night - people saying we can't close games out despite winning nearly every game we play and barely conceding a goal.
And thought that there is this panacea that had we made 2 subs last night we'd have definitely won, which is a theory that can't be tested.
Poland were coming back into the game a bit, but that is always the case when 1-0 in closing minutes - but for Walker getting beaten too easily we win the game and they don't create a chance.
Against Denmark in the Euro's we were 2-1 up with a couple of minutes left and managed to retain the ball for a ridiculous amount of time - and fans still saying we did wrong thing as should have scored a third instead - they'd be wetting their pants if Spain had done that to us at how good they are. | |
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| Now I like Southgate on 09:02 - Sep 9 with 1612 views | Wickets |
Have you seen the group league table ? |  | | |
| Now I like Southgate on 10:34 - Sep 9 with 1518 views | IpswichKnight |
| Now I like Southgate on 08:46 - Sep 9 by itfcjoe |
I was trying to make this point last night - people saying we can't close games out despite winning nearly every game we play and barely conceding a goal.
And thought that there is this panacea that had we made 2 subs last night we'd have definitely won, which is a theory that can't be tested.
Poland were coming back into the game a bit, but that is always the case when 1-0 in closing minutes - but for Walker getting beaten too easily we win the game and they don't create a chance.
Against Denmark in the Euro's we were 2-1 up with a couple of minutes left and managed to retain the ball for a ridiculous amount of time - and fans still saying we did wrong thing as should have scored a third instead - they'd be wetting their pants if Spain had done that to us at how good they are. |
We were caught up in a bun fight first half and let them dictate a bit too much, 2nd half they barely got in our half. 9/10 we see that game out. We have found a way that allows us to win a lot of matches. We are still a young international side we are only going to get better. | | | |
| Now I like Southgate on 11:05 - Sep 9 with 1457 views | chicoazul |
| Now I like Southgate on 09:02 - Sep 9 by Wickets |
Have you seen the group league table ? |
Yes. I don’t think the midfield works very well and Southgate could be a bit more adventurous. | |
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| Now I like Southgate on 11:44 - Sep 9 with 1397 views | The_Last_Baron |
| Now I like Southgate on 10:34 - Sep 9 by IpswichKnight |
We were caught up in a bun fight first half and let them dictate a bit too much, 2nd half they barely got in our half. 9/10 we see that game out. We have found a way that allows us to win a lot of matches. We are still a young international side we are only going to get better. |
I don't think England will get any better under Southgate. He's done well but too defensive and conservative when the pressure is on to turn the side into the one they could be.
I believe the World Cup will be his final tournament as England coach.
Last night 1-1 was a fair result overall. England created little and had to rely on a thunderstrike for the goal. |  |
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| Now I like Southgate on 12:30 - Sep 9 with 1357 views | peterleeblue |
| Now I like Southgate on 11:44 - Sep 9 by The_Last_Baron |
I don't think England will get any better under Southgate. He's done well but too defensive and conservative when the pressure is on to turn the side into the one they could be.
I believe the World Cup will be his final tournament as England coach.
Last night 1-1 was a fair result overall. England created little and had to rely on a thunderstrike for the goal. |
I agree about Southgate.
However last night we totally dominated 35 minutes of the second half.
I am convinced a couple of substitutions would have given us the fresh legs to hold on.
I appreciate that's hindsight but doing nothing leaves the point open to question. It was tantamount to making substitutions in the last minute of extra time in the Euro final which demonstrated a lack of trust in the bench to do anything other than score a penalty (which sadly they didn't). |  | | |
| Now I like Southgate on 13:27 - Sep 9 with 1273 views | pointofblue |
Going forward they reminded me of a much better version of us - everything going through the wings and nothing whatsoever via central midfield. Defensively they worked much better as a unit than our central midfielders have so far, though. | |
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| Now I like Southgate on 13:36 - Sep 9 with 1257 views | Yallop |
| Now I like Southgate on 11:44 - Sep 9 by The_Last_Baron |
I don't think England will get any better under Southgate. He's done well but too defensive and conservative when the pressure is on to turn the side into the one they could be.
I believe the World Cup will be his final tournament as England coach.
Last night 1-1 was a fair result overall. England created little and had to rely on a thunderstrike for the goal. |
Be careful what you wish for | | | |
| Now I like Southgate on 14:16 - Sep 9 with 1207 views | fergalsharkey |
WTF are you on about. |  |
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| Now I like Southgate on 16:32 - Sep 9 with 1142 views | King_of_Portman_Rd |
Southgate has turned us into a very effective tournament team. Something we simply have not been for a very very long time.
We all want to see attacking football, but even Brazil get beat sticking all their best attacking players so I have absolutely no issue with Southgate doing what it takes to win games. After all in 30 years time we’ll remember the outcome rather than the performances. | | | |
| Now I like Southgate on 16:54 - Sep 9 with 1114 views | Nazemariner |
I like your thinking.
Let's abandon a tactic that got us within a couiple of kicks of winng the most prestigious prize in all of football. |  | | |
| Now I like Southgate on 17:28 - Sep 9 with 1088 views | chicoazul |
| Now I like Southgate on 08:39 - Sep 9 by IpswichKnight |
We’re so rubbish that the last team to beat us without penalties was Belgium in November last year. Since then ( Italy was a draw which we lost on pens ).
P16 W13 D3 L0 F35 A4
That’s a record pretty much every team would kill for. |
I didn’t say we are rubbish. | |
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