Goalkeeping managers? 18:57 - Sep 10 with 2882 views | Bluedicea | I must admit my complete ignorance here. Other than Nuno Santo, has there ever been good managers that were keepers in their career? I would have thought there would be more, considering a keeper tends to be good at organising at the back, that shows they need some leadership skills. So why aren't more top managers ex keepers? |  |
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Goalkeeping managers? on 18:58 - Sep 10 with 2725 views | J2BLUE | Bryan Gunn was a brilliant manager for Ipswich |  |
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Goalkeeping managers? on 19:01 - Sep 10 with 2705 views | Sharkey | Don't know about 'top' exactly, but Mike Walker was good enough to get the Everton job. |  | |  |
Goalkeeping managers? on 19:02 - Sep 10 with 2702 views | Bluedicea |
Goalkeeping managers? on 18:58 - Sep 10 by J2BLUE | Bryan Gunn was a brilliant manager for Ipswich |
Lol, I had forgot about that abysmal stint he did at scum. Good times! |  |
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Goalkeeping managers? on 19:05 - Sep 10 with 2687 views | HighgateBlue |
Goalkeeping managers? on 19:02 - Sep 10 by Bluedicea | Lol, I had forgot about that abysmal stint he did at scum. Good times! |
I wish their fans had persuaded the board to give Gunn more time, trotting out all the arguments about Sir Alex needing time, and Sir Bobby needing time. I suppose they lacked any examples from their own history of managers creating glory days after being given time... So, to ask a more divisive question, was Managerial Mr Gunn the equivalent of our Paul Hurst, our Paul Lambert, or our Paul Cook? |  | |  |
Goalkeeping managers? on 19:11 - Sep 10 with 2657 views | Chrisd | Dino Zoff |  |
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Goalkeeping managers? on 19:13 - Sep 10 with 2657 views | WeWereZombies | Not a glittering managerial career but Peter Shilton was in charge at Plymouth for three years, Ray Clemence co-managed Spurs with Doug Livermore for a season (?) and then went on to being solely in charge at Barnet for a couple of seasons. |  |
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Goalkeeping managers? on 19:16 - Sep 10 with 2649 views | Bluedicea |
Goalkeeping managers? on 19:05 - Sep 10 by HighgateBlue | I wish their fans had persuaded the board to give Gunn more time, trotting out all the arguments about Sir Alex needing time, and Sir Bobby needing time. I suppose they lacked any examples from their own history of managers creating glory days after being given time... So, to ask a more divisive question, was Managerial Mr Gunn the equivalent of our Paul Hurst, our Paul Lambert, or our Paul Cook? |
Probably a bit of the first two. He was the equivalent of Hurst in his lack of getting a team to work and poor recruitment and like Lamebert in the tactical failure to stop the drop to the 3rd division. At least neither of them gave us a 7 nil drubbing from Colchester. |  |
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Raymond Goethals. (n/t) on 19:18 - Sep 10 with 2635 views | Bloots | |  |
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Raymond Goethals. (n/t) on 19:22 - Sep 10 with 2626 views | WeWereZombies |
Raymond Goethals. (n/t) on 19:18 - Sep 10 by Bloots | |
Hmmm, that guy had an interesting career... |  |
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Goalkeeping managers? on 19:22 - Sep 10 with 2625 views | Bluedicea |
Goalkeeping managers? on 19:13 - Sep 10 by WeWereZombies | Not a glittering managerial career but Peter Shilton was in charge at Plymouth for three years, Ray Clemence co-managed Spurs with Doug Livermore for a season (?) and then went on to being solely in charge at Barnet for a couple of seasons. |
Not glittering agreed, but I love Shilts, top player!! Do you have a theory as to why there aren't many successful ones? They are used to watching and reading a game and as I said need good management skills to organise in front of the sticks. |  |
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Raymond Goethals. (n/t) on 19:56 - Sep 10 with 2571 views | solemio |
Raymond Goethals. (n/t) on 19:18 - Sep 10 by Bloots | |
Poor old Goethals had noethals at all. |  | |  |
Goalkeeping managers? on 20:10 - Sep 10 with 2551 views | Wacko | Walter Zenga Theory why they aren't that many: they aren't really team players and are regularly described as the "bonkers" one in the team |  |
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Goalkeeping managers? on 20:32 - Sep 10 with 2518 views | Marshalls_Mullet | Mike Walker. Kevin Blackwell. |  |
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Goalkeeping managers? on 20:35 - Sep 10 with 2507 views | GlasgowBlue | Nigel Adkins |  |
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Goalkeeping managers? on 20:44 - Sep 10 with 2482 views | monty_radio | Peter Taylor - allegedly the real power behind the Clough triumphs. Dick Graham played in goal for Palace, then, as a manager took them up to Div 2. Also managed Col Utd in the 70s. |  |
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Goalkeeping managers? on 20:51 - Sep 10 with 2461 views | MattinLondon |
Goalkeeping managers? on 19:22 - Sep 10 by Bluedicea | Not glittering agreed, but I love Shilts, top player!! Do you have a theory as to why there aren't many successful ones? They are used to watching and reading a game and as I said need good management skills to organise in front of the sticks. |
How many players go into management? as a percentage it must be very low. If you tally that same percentage with how many players are keepers then it might well be in keeping with that. Plus, in modern times at least, a lot of ex-keepers probably become coaches. I may well be clutching at straws for some of these theories. |  | |  |
Goalkeeping managers? on 21:44 - Sep 10 with 2382 views | Bluedicea |
Goalkeeping managers? on 20:51 - Sep 10 by MattinLondon | How many players go into management? as a percentage it must be very low. If you tally that same percentage with how many players are keepers then it might well be in keeping with that. Plus, in modern times at least, a lot of ex-keepers probably become coaches. I may well be clutching at straws for some of these theories. |
@ wacko. Good point on the bonkers bit, the best ones were always a bit eccentric. @ Glasgow. Yeah Adkins had a reasonably decent managerial career. That's a good point Matt, smaller pool, and more specialised players means keeper coaching is more likely. It just seemed an anomaly to me that there isn't more, or more at the top due to the skills involved. As theres quite a few managers that were team captains, which requires a few similar skills that a keeper needs. |  |
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Goalkeeping managers? on 21:48 - Sep 10 with 2373 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Goalkeeping managers? on 19:05 - Sep 10 by HighgateBlue | I wish their fans had persuaded the board to give Gunn more time, trotting out all the arguments about Sir Alex needing time, and Sir Bobby needing time. I suppose they lacked any examples from their own history of managers creating glory days after being given time... So, to ask a more divisive question, was Managerial Mr Gunn the equivalent of our Paul Hurst, our Paul Lambert, or our Paul Cook? |
To be fair none of Hurst, Lambert nor Cook achieved the record in League 1 that Gunn did. However, Gunn's record got him the sack so quickly that he did less damage. |  |
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Goalkeeping managers? on 22:12 - Sep 10 with 2335 views | Bluedicea |
Goalkeeping managers? on 21:48 - Sep 10 by Nthsuffolkblue | To be fair none of Hurst, Lambert nor Cook achieved the record in League 1 that Gunn did. However, Gunn's record got him the sack so quickly that he did less damage. |
I must admit, Gunn does hold a bit of special place in my heart. That game in 96 when he air kicked the ball to give us the win, that was my 1st game watching the town. I got goosebumps just thinking about it |  |
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Goalkeeping managers? on 22:58 - Sep 10 with 2286 views | WeWereZombies |
Goalkeeping managers? on 19:22 - Sep 10 by Bluedicea | Not glittering agreed, but I love Shilts, top player!! Do you have a theory as to why there aren't many successful ones? They are used to watching and reading a game and as I said need good management skills to organise in front of the sticks. |
I think there is a bit of the 'you have to be bonkers to be a goalkeeper' element as Wacko has suggested, definitely true of Grobbelaar, Hart and Shilton. But then there are the very level headed keepers like Jennings, Clemence and Bob Wilson so it isn't always true. Perhaps as a goalkeepers best performance is a clean sheet rather than an actual win then their mentality lends itself to very cautious defensive tactics and that doesn't sit well with supporters - or the board if attendances dwindle. |  |
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Goalkeeping managers? on 23:11 - Sep 10 with 2262 views | itfcjoe | Jose Mourinho apparently, might have just been in Sunday League though! |  |
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Goalkeeping managers? on 23:15 - Sep 10 with 2259 views | Bluedicea |
Goalkeeping managers? on 22:58 - Sep 10 by WeWereZombies | I think there is a bit of the 'you have to be bonkers to be a goalkeeper' element as Wacko has suggested, definitely true of Grobbelaar, Hart and Shilton. But then there are the very level headed keepers like Jennings, Clemence and Bob Wilson so it isn't always true. Perhaps as a goalkeepers best performance is a clean sheet rather than an actual win then their mentality lends itself to very cautious defensive tactics and that doesn't sit well with supporters - or the board if attendances dwindle. |
Interesting, that's a very astute point. So would you say whilst they might not have the attacking mindset to manage, they would make a better assistant to an attack minded manager? Maybe we've found an answer for Cook. |  |
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Goalkeeping managers? on 07:23 - Sep 11 with 2139 views | BlueBoots | Karol Wojtyła from Poland - very successful 27 year management career |  |
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Goalkeeping managers? on 10:54 - Sep 11 with 2044 views | bluefunk |
Goalkeeping managers? on 23:11 - Sep 10 by itfcjoe | Jose Mourinho apparently, might have just been in Sunday League though! |
I thought thAt he was a keeper but when I looked it up he was a midfielder, but his Dad was a goalkeeper |  | |  |
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