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Its basics that's our achilles heel. 20:14 - Sep 11 with 1252 viewshype313

Every goal we have conceded has been by players not doing the simple things, just basics, we're not expecting Franco Baresi but just some nous at the back would be a start.

Also, we desperately need Morsy in, Harper and Evans just don't have the minerals to protect the back four or to offer something linking up the forward line, they constantly play sideways.

Such a frustrating day again, especially given the feel good factor around the place pre match.

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Its basics that's our achilles heel. on 20:20 - Sep 11 with 1217 viewsVaughan8

Harper and Evans were anonymous. Did they do anything?

The defence seem so open and every Bolton attack looked like a goal. The goalie looked very nervous and didn't have a great game.

Bonne, aluko and Burns were the best players.

As you say, all the goals were basic silly errors.
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Its basics that's our achilles heel. on 20:25 - Sep 11 with 1200 viewsSteve_M

Organisational failings from Day 1 of this season. Two new signings made a mess of things today so clinging to hopes on Morsy is perhaps just following suit.

The coaching set up has looked weak since pre-season and nothing seen on the pitch is changing anyone’s mind here. The only decent coaching at the club that was obvious to fans was when Gill stepped up last season. Was he less capable than the Wigan kitman?

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Its basics that's our achilles heel. on 20:27 - Sep 11 with 1188 viewsDyland

We just lack spine and any fight. It's pathetic and at the risk of sounding like a divvy yank, unacceptable.

Football is a really simple game, as all the great managers tell us. Get these players' heads right ffs.
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Its basics that's our achilles heel. on 20:29 - Sep 11 with 1162 viewsDyland

Its basics that's our achilles heel. on 20:25 - Sep 11 by Steve_M

Organisational failings from Day 1 of this season. Two new signings made a mess of things today so clinging to hopes on Morsy is perhaps just following suit.

The coaching set up has looked weak since pre-season and nothing seen on the pitch is changing anyone’s mind here. The only decent coaching at the club that was obvious to fans was when Gill stepped up last season. Was he less capable than the Wigan kitman?


Galling, huh? Sort it out ffs. So many good players, and Cook is no numpty. Sort the basics out in training, and stop taking the piss. Ffs!

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Its basics that's our achilles heel. on 20:35 - Sep 11 with 1108 viewsCuffy81

Game management and basics as you say

One nil up after 5 minutes and concede within 5

Lucky to get to 2-2 after 45 minutes and leave their best player unmarked to kill it off before half time

Come out second half and concede straight away

As much as our back 4 was all at sea they got zero protection from Evans and Harper who either do want to or are not capable or doing the dirty work required to be a successful team in this division.

I've been massively behind Cook but that was an absolute shower with two weeks to prepare. I hope he's man, enough to admit he needs help and Mcgreal gets involved.
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Its basics that's our achilles heel. on 20:36 - Sep 11 with 1092 viewschrismakin

The annoying thing is, we don't even need to wait for certain players to come back before we can set up differently to get a better result

Walton
Burns Edmundson Burgess Coulsen
Carroll Evans
Aluko Chaplin Penney
Bonne


4 2 3 1 to keep PC happy
2 sitting midfielders but 1 who's comfortable sitting allowing Evans to come forward
Burns much better fullback than others
Penney known for playing high and wide rather than fullback

Personally
I'd have a 3 5 2

Walton

Burgess
Wolfenden
Edmundson

Burns
Coulson
Carroll
Evans
Aluko

Pigott
Bonne

Never be afraid to share your thoughts.
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Its basics that's our achilles heel. on 20:43 - Sep 11 with 1072 viewshype313

Its basics that's our achilles heel. on 20:25 - Sep 11 by Steve_M

Organisational failings from Day 1 of this season. Two new signings made a mess of things today so clinging to hopes on Morsy is perhaps just following suit.

The coaching set up has looked weak since pre-season and nothing seen on the pitch is changing anyone’s mind here. The only decent coaching at the club that was obvious to fans was when Gill stepped up last season. Was he less capable than the Wigan kitman?


I was sat about 3 yards from McGreal, surely it would be wise to bring him in at the very least as defensive coach, appreciate he wants bigger things but nothing is happening at the moment for him.

Our coaching seems so light in its experience.

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Its basics that's our achilles heel. on 20:56 - Sep 11 with 1019 viewsdissboy2

Its basics that's our achilles heel. on 20:43 - Sep 11 by hype313

I was sat about 3 yards from McGreal, surely it would be wise to bring him in at the very least as defensive coach, appreciate he wants bigger things but nothing is happening at the moment for him.

Our coaching seems so light in its experience.


would Cook be big enough to ask McG though, would mean admitting he's not up to the job without a canny tactics man at his side
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Its basics that's our achilles heel. on 21:06 - Sep 11 with 996 viewsstrikalite

Its basics that's our achilles heel. on 20:36 - Sep 11 by chrismakin

The annoying thing is, we don't even need to wait for certain players to come back before we can set up differently to get a better result

Walton
Burns Edmundson Burgess Coulsen
Carroll Evans
Aluko Chaplin Penney
Bonne


4 2 3 1 to keep PC happy
2 sitting midfielders but 1 who's comfortable sitting allowing Evans to come forward
Burns much better fullback than others
Penney known for playing high and wide rather than fullback

Personally
I'd have a 3 5 2

Walton

Burgess
Wolfenden
Edmundson

Burns
Coulson
Carroll
Evans
Aluko

Pigott
Bonne


I honestly think we have the players for 3-4-3 or yes 3-5-2

Wanna see us then press high, we are ridiculously open at the moment, we lose the ball and we are in no mans land
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Its basics that's our achilles heel. on 21:09 - Sep 11 with 990 viewsitfcjoe

It’s League 1, every goal is from a mistake in reality - we make more than the opposition. It’s as a simple as that.

Ifs, buts and maybes….but we are absolutely miles off it and have been since the very start of the season

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Its basics that's our achilles heel. on 21:12 - Sep 11 with 969 viewsCuffy81

Its basics that's our achilles heel. on 21:06 - Sep 11 by strikalite

I honestly think we have the players for 3-4-3 or yes 3-5-2

Wanna see us then press high, we are ridiculously open at the moment, we lose the ball and we are in no mans land


Trouble is with playing your full backs as wingers is the gaps you leave, Bolton ruthlessly exploited this today. Evatt knew the game plan

We don't press as a unit, and we don't press at the right times.

Both central midfielders don't look up for a battle
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Its basics that's our achilles heel. on 21:24 - Sep 11 with 921 viewspointofblue

The irony is, with Hladky and Woolfenden there, we looked pretty solid from open play (minus ridiculous mistakes) but shaky at set pieces. Today we looked fine defending set pieces but horrific from open play.

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Its basics that's our achilles heel. on 21:31 - Sep 11 with 892 viewsstrikalite

Its basics that's our achilles heel. on 21:12 - Sep 11 by Cuffy81

Trouble is with playing your full backs as wingers is the gaps you leave, Bolton ruthlessly exploited this today. Evatt knew the game plan

We don't press as a unit, and we don't press at the right times.

Both central midfielders don't look up for a battle


You have to be brave and press high, little playing out from the back, that ball over to their flanks is ok as long as we are up the pitch, again today from the start we didn't look to press at all. carry the ball forward where there is space, you can see it sat up high..
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Its basics that's our achilles heel. on 21:40 - Sep 11 with 864 viewshype313

Its basics that's our achilles heel. on 21:09 - Sep 11 by itfcjoe

It’s League 1, every goal is from a mistake in reality - we make more than the opposition. It’s as a simple as that.

Ifs, buts and maybes….but we are absolutely miles off it and have been since the very start of the season


We're 12 points behind Sunderland yet scored the same amount of goals, its clearly our defensive frailties letting us down.

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Its basics that's our achilles heel. on 22:16 - Sep 11 with 781 viewsitfcjoe

Its basics that's our achilles heel. on 21:40 - Sep 11 by hype313

We're 12 points behind Sunderland yet scored the same amount of goals, its clearly our defensive frailties letting us down.


I’ve not said it isn’t, just that mistakes are why goals happen at this level

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Its basics that's our achilles heel. on 23:46 - Sep 11 with 627 views3_5_2

Lack of shape.

No press

Players not goal side. As you say. Basics.

At 2-4 there was still 32 minutes left yet nothing. No one stepped up

There were no leaders on there today and that is a major concern

Hindsight is always 20:20
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