| The French seem to have the hump 10:28 - Sep 18 with 1087 views | giant_stow |
Anyone know what happens next, after recalling it's Ambassadors?
Also, why did their crappy old subs cost so much? Seen one report saying the French contract was worth nearly £100B which would make each sub nearly £10b - seems expensive! |  |
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| The French seem to have the hump on 10:37 - Sep 18 with 1056 views | lowhouseblue |
they wait a couple of weeks and then send their ambassadors back. |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| The French seem to have the hump on 10:40 - Sep 18 with 1036 views | leitrimblue |
| The French seem to have the hump on 10:37 - Sep 18 by lowhouseblue |
they wait a couple of weeks and then send their ambassadors back. |
Stinking of cheese an garlic |  | | |
| The French seem to have the hump on 10:48 - Sep 18 with 1007 views | hype313 |
Bit its ok for Macron to withhold AZ vaccine from Australia when they had placed an order.
One might think there is an election on the horizon... |  |
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| The French seem to have the hump on 10:50 - Sep 18 with 992 views | Guthrum |
War!!
No, not really. This is just a way of showing displeasure.
Plus they were not 'crappy old subs', but are capable weapons systems packed with expensive technolgy. With almost certainly an expensive servicing and mainenance contract on top. |  |
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| The French seem to have the hump on 10:50 - Sep 18 with 995 views | RegencyBlue |
Macrons hissy fit will carry on for a while, probably to distract his electorate from the problems at home, before everything returns to normal.
Nobody has done anything the French wouldn’t have done if it suited them. |  | | |
| The French seem to have the hump on 11:01 - Sep 18 with 957 views | giant_stow |
| The French seem to have the hump on 10:50 - Sep 18 by Guthrum |
War!!
No, not really. This is just a way of showing displeasure.
Plus they were not 'crappy old subs', but are capable weapons systems packed with expensive technolgy. With almost certainly an expensive servicing and mainenance contract on top. |
Fair enough on the subs not being crappy - just seems pricey per machine. Clearly I know nothing, but just comparing them to the UK's new aircraft carriers, which I *think* were cheaper. From a simpleton's angle, that doesn't add up - there's more stuff in a carrier! | |
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| The French seem to have the hump on 11:14 - Sep 18 with 930 views | Guthrum |
| The French seem to have the hump on 11:01 - Sep 18 by giant_stow |
Fair enough on the subs not being crappy - just seems pricey per machine. Clearly I know nothing, but just comparing them to the UK's new aircraft carriers, which I *think* were cheaper. From a simpleton's angle, that doesn't add up - there's more stuff in a carrier! |
That's probably underselling the complexity of a modern naval submarine. A lot goes into making them able to move through the water as silently as possible, plus systems to detect other vessels and avoid being located themselves.
Diesel/electric subs actually have some technical advantages over nuclear ones, in that they run quieter underwater (nuclear reactors are noisier than batteries). But, obviously, they have much shorter range. | |
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| The French seem to have the hump on 11:25 - Sep 18 with 905 views | Fixed_It |
| The French seem to have the hump on 11:14 - Sep 18 by Guthrum |
That's probably underselling the complexity of a modern naval submarine. A lot goes into making them able to move through the water as silently as possible, plus systems to detect other vessels and avoid being located themselves.
Diesel/electric subs actually have some technical advantages over nuclear ones, in that they run quieter underwater (nuclear reactors are noisier than batteries). But, obviously, they have much shorter range. |
Ought to try Duracell... |  |
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| The French seem to have the hump on 11:30 - Sep 18 with 888 views | giant_stow |
| The French seem to have the hump on 11:14 - Sep 18 by Guthrum |
That's probably underselling the complexity of a modern naval submarine. A lot goes into making them able to move through the water as silently as possible, plus systems to detect other vessels and avoid being located themselves.
Diesel/electric subs actually have some technical advantages over nuclear ones, in that they run quieter underwater (nuclear reactors are noisier than batteries). But, obviously, they have much shorter range. |
Interesting stuff, ta. | |
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| The French seem to have the hump on 11:34 - Sep 18 with 878 views | NthQldITFC |
It's the automated white flag unfurling mechanism on the periscope that bumps the price up, monsieur. [Post edited 18 Sep 2021 11:35]
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| # WE ARE STEALING THE FUTURE FROM OUR CHILDREN --- WE MUST CHANGE COURSE # | | Poll: | It's driving me nuts |
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| The French seem to have the hump on 11:47 - Sep 18 with 843 views | ronnyd |
This from a national government who wanted to leave NATO and start an EU army with Merkal. |  | | |
| The French seem to have the hump on 11:58 - Sep 18 with 804 views | Keno |
They will probably surrender blaming the British and bearing a grudge |  |
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| The French seem to have the hump on 12:03 - Sep 18 with 784 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
Change the name of any monterey jack cheese in the country to collaboration Jacques fromage then sulk.
All the while allowing a political party that borders on National front rhetoric to gain further traction on Macron.
There is only one think left for him to do and that's to let it be known to the French public he is having an affair, which should see a pump in his approval ratings given infidelity is a national pass time |  |
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| The French seem to have the hump on 12:13 - Sep 18 with 757 views | Pinewoodblue |
| The French seem to have the hump on 11:58 - Sep 18 by Keno |
They will probably surrender blaming the British and bearing a grudge |
Macron needs to be seen defending the interests of France as he is up for election next spring. With their electoral system if he can get through to the second ballot he is more or less guaranteed to win.
The decision of Barnier to stand makes it awkward for Macron. The far right, and left are likely to poll well but Barnier will look to attract some of Macron’s support, he will also take some voters on the right with his stance on Immigration and European Court of Human Rights, which are almost the opposite to those he expressed in Brexit negotiations.
Worth pointing out, last time around, the socialist vote was split. Had they United behind one candidate Macron may not have made the second ballot.
Strange thing about this is he doesn’t seem to have recalled .French ambassador to UK, or have I missed something. |  |
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| The French seem to have the hump on 12:25 - Sep 18 with 732 views | J2BLUE |
| The French seem to have the hump on 10:48 - Sep 18 by hype313 |
Bit its ok for Macron to withhold AZ vaccine from Australia when they had placed an order.
One might think there is an election on the horizon... |
The EU seem to have gone full bully in the playground since covid.
I'm quite glad we're not under the direct influence of that womanbaby Ursula von der Leyen.
Yes, yes, I know our politicians are crap as well. |  |
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| The French seem to have the hump on 13:12 - Sep 18 with 604 views | solomon |
| The French seem to have the hump on 12:25 - Sep 18 by J2BLUE |
The EU seem to have gone full bully in the playground since covid.
I'm quite glad we're not under the direct influence of that womanbaby Ursula von der Leyen.
Yes, yes, I know our politicians are crap as well. |
Indeed, never trust a smartly dressed, haughty voiced woman with highly lacquered blonde hair.
We in the UK are speaking from experience. |  | | |
| The French seem to have the hump on 13:20 - Sep 18 with 582 views | giant_stow |
| The French seem to have the hump on 12:13 - Sep 18 by Pinewoodblue |
Macron needs to be seen defending the interests of France as he is up for election next spring. With their electoral system if he can get through to the second ballot he is more or less guaranteed to win.
The decision of Barnier to stand makes it awkward for Macron. The far right, and left are likely to poll well but Barnier will look to attract some of Macron’s support, he will also take some voters on the right with his stance on Immigration and European Court of Human Rights, which are almost the opposite to those he expressed in Brexit negotiations.
Worth pointing out, last time around, the socialist vote was split. Had they United behind one candidate Macron may not have made the second ballot.
Strange thing about this is he doesn’t seem to have recalled .French ambassador to UK, or have I missed something. |
You're right - they kept their ambassador in the UK in place - apparently, we're not the ringleader, just opportunistic. (and maybe they wisely decided that there's enough beef between us already). | |
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| The French seem to have the hump on 13:20 - Sep 18 with 580 views | GlasgowBlue |
| The French seem to have the hump on 12:13 - Sep 18 by Pinewoodblue |
Macron needs to be seen defending the interests of France as he is up for election next spring. With their electoral system if he can get through to the second ballot he is more or less guaranteed to win.
The decision of Barnier to stand makes it awkward for Macron. The far right, and left are likely to poll well but Barnier will look to attract some of Macron’s support, he will also take some voters on the right with his stance on Immigration and European Court of Human Rights, which are almost the opposite to those he expressed in Brexit negotiations.
Worth pointing out, last time around, the socialist vote was split. Had they United behind one candidate Macron may not have made the second ballot.
Strange thing about this is he doesn’t seem to have recalled .French ambassador to UK, or have I missed something. |
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