| mick mccarthy trending on twitter 23:21 - Sep 28 with 6928 views | Hipsterectomy |
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| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 10:25 - Sep 29 with 2269 views | leitrimblue |
| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 10:22 - Sep 29 by witchdoctor |
ha ha..think I may have addressed my boo boo with an uppy but it’s not letting me view it… |
Ah, you have rectified it , I just checked. |  | | |
| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 11:23 - Sep 29 with 2194 views | MattinLondon |
| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 09:12 - Sep 29 by Herbivore |
Nope. Nobody looks at the end of Mick's days here "with misty eyed wonderment". |
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| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 11:36 - Sep 29 with 2141 views | Herbivore |
| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 11:23 - Sep 29 by MattinLondon |
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Except they don't. |  |
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| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 11:41 - Sep 29 with 2130 views | Swansea_Blue |
| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 09:12 - Sep 29 by Herbivore |
Nope. Nobody looks at the end of Mick's days here "with misty eyed wonderment". |
I wonder how things got so toxic, if that's any help.
They're not a happy bunch down here. Without wanting to make any points about Mick's time here, just on the basis of Cardiff being ultra defensie lately, and not playing the likes of Kieffer Moore, I can see why they wouldn't be happy. No manager is going to last long if their team selection and performances don't show signs of ambition (except Lambert under Evans). |  |
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| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 11:41 - Sep 29 with 2132 views | MattinLondon |
| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 11:36 - Sep 29 by Herbivore |
Except they don't. |
But they do. | | | |
| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 11:55 - Sep 29 with 2101 views | positivity |
| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 09:15 - Sep 29 by BlueandTruesince82 |
Having seen the logic of posters who belive we shouldn't sack people for failure on the basis that the next guy could be worse I am thoroughly enjoying this stark reminder of what we are missing.
5 at the back all central defenders and a 4 - 0 reverse at home. Baffling decisions like this are why Mick had to go |
his excuse for 5 centre backs was that they desperately needed a clean sheet. that went well!
also novel to bring in calamity mcguinness to shore up your defence... |  |
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| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 11:56 - Sep 29 with 2096 views | chrismakin |
| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 11:55 - Sep 29 by positivity |
his excuse for 5 centre backs was that they desperately needed a clean sheet. that went well!
also novel to bring in calamity mcguinness to shore up your defence... |
And then play him at RB |  |
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| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 12:05 - Sep 29 with 2078 views | Herbivore |
| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 11:41 - Sep 29 by MattinLondon |
But they do. |
They really don't. Who are these people looking back fondly on a 3-0 home defeat to Hull and a toxic atmosphere at PR? They're like the yeti, conspiracy loons are convinced they've seen them but there's no evidence they actually exist. I think there were literally about three people who wanted Mick to stay on as manager at the end of his time here and even they acknowledged that things were far from ideal. The notion that people look back at that time with "misty eyed wonderment" is complete fabrication. [Post edited 29 Sep 2021 12:06]
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| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 12:17 - Sep 29 with 2047 views | hype313 |
What's a bit strange hearing from Cardiff Fans is that he seems to have had a fallout with Kieffer Moore and this is causing them tactical and goal threat issues. |  |
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| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 13:14 - Sep 29 with 1976 views | Swansea_Blue |
| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 11:55 - Sep 29 by positivity |
his excuse for 5 centre backs was that they desperately needed a clean sheet. that went well!
also novel to bring in calamity mcguinness to shore up your defence... |
Ha! To be fair to Mick, there probably wasn't much he could do to stop WBA. They're going to be some force this season and are likely to go up with ease. | |
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| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 13:22 - Sep 29 with 1959 views | baxterbasics |
| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 09:12 - Sep 29 by Herbivore |
Nope. Nobody looks at the end of Mick's days here "with misty eyed wonderment". |
Well, I sort of miss the days of being mid-table Championship quality. Yes. |  |
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| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 13:25 - Sep 29 with 1936 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 07:59 - Sep 29 by witchdoctor |
I will look back on the Mick days as for the only time in well over 50 years I lost my love for the Town…initially gave up my season ticket and then stopped going altogether…have look on the Cardiff forums and see history repeating itself… |
Strange that. I lost it during Keane's reign. So predictable and dull then.
It was the lack of investment as much as anything that led to the dross we saw. I enjoyed watching us while McGoldrick, Murphy and co were doing the business. Yes, overall MM was too pragmatic and there are all sorts of reasons why he had to go.
He was far from our best manager but the degree of venom that some fans hold against him and how personal it got towards him at the end are just sad. I like the bloke and wish him well. I suspect his time at Cardiff is up and he will probably stick to TV work unless ROI gives him another go. |  |
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| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 13:26 - Sep 29 with 1929 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 11:23 - Sep 29 by MattinLondon |
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I would be curious to know who does.
It would be a very odd take if anyone did. | |
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| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 13:30 - Sep 29 with 1908 views | Herbivore |
| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 13:22 - Sep 29 by baxterbasics |
Well, I sort of miss the days of being mid-table Championship quality. Yes. |
Well looking back now midtable Championship looks like heady heights. At the time though things were pretty grim. The football had got really turgid for most of his last 18 months here, aside from a couple of spells in the first half of the 2017/18 season and the Newcastle game the season before. The atmosphere was toxic as well. I thought at the time and maintain now that Mick did a very good job here, he consistently outperformed his budget and made us greater than the sum of our parts as a team. That said, it was also time for him to go.
What's odd is seeing some of those who were most rabidly anti-Mick and who were adamant that Mick going would lead us to the sunlit uplands of champagne football and regular promotion tilts making out like us beating the bottom side in third division at home is somehow vindication of their position. Really weird. | |
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| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 13:33 - Sep 29 with 1886 views | baxterbasics |
| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 13:30 - Sep 29 by Herbivore |
Well looking back now midtable Championship looks like heady heights. At the time though things were pretty grim. The football had got really turgid for most of his last 18 months here, aside from a couple of spells in the first half of the 2017/18 season and the Newcastle game the season before. The atmosphere was toxic as well. I thought at the time and maintain now that Mick did a very good job here, he consistently outperformed his budget and made us greater than the sum of our parts as a team. That said, it was also time for him to go.
What's odd is seeing some of those who were most rabidly anti-Mick and who were adamant that Mick going would lead us to the sunlit uplands of champagne football and regular promotion tilts making out like us beating the bottom side in third division at home is somehow vindication of their position. Really weird. |
I did have a slightly skewed in MMs favour perspective at the time, I rarely went to games in that period but managed a half-season ticket for the year we made the playoffs, back when everyone still liked him. | |
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| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 13:38 - Sep 29 with 1856 views | MattinLondon |
| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 12:05 - Sep 29 by Herbivore |
They really don't. Who are these people looking back fondly on a 3-0 home defeat to Hull and a toxic atmosphere at PR? They're like the yeti, conspiracy loons are convinced they've seen them but there's no evidence they actually exist. I think there were literally about three people who wanted Mick to stay on as manager at the end of his time here and even they acknowledged that things were far from ideal. The notion that people look back at that time with "misty eyed wonderment" is complete fabrication. [Post edited 29 Sep 2021 12:06]
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| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 13:39 - Sep 29 with 1856 views | Radlett_blue |
| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 23:58 - Sep 28 by Clapham_Junction |
The BBC match report said Cardiff had five centre backs in the team.
Makes the Skuse-Douglas-Hyam midfield look Keeganesque. |
Roy Keane sent Town out at Watford with a defence of 4 centre backs & then 4 central midfield players in front of them. Surprise - we had no width & turned 2-0 down before he realised how dumb he had been. |  |
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| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 13:45 - Sep 29 with 1825 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 13:39 - Sep 29 by Radlett_blue |
Roy Keane sent Town out at Watford with a defence of 4 centre backs & then 4 central midfield players in front of them. Surprise - we had no width & turned 2-0 down before he realised how dumb he had been. |
"he realised how dumb he had been"?
I never knew that! When did Keane ever do that? | |
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| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 14:12 - Sep 29 with 1790 views | IpswichKnight |
| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 13:39 - Sep 29 by Radlett_blue |
Roy Keane sent Town out at Watford with a defence of 4 centre backs & then 4 central midfield players in front of them. Surprise - we had no width & turned 2-0 down before he realised how dumb he had been. |
It wasn’t the 5 at the back and a midfield 3 of Skuse, Douglas and Hyam against the bottom of table team who leaked like sieve and couldn’t score who we then got lucky against with a last minute equaliser 😉😉😉😉. | | | |
| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 15:58 - Sep 29 with 1689 views | vanmunt |
Its like groundhog day looking at the Cardiff Forum. |  | | |
| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 17:35 - Sep 29 with 1572 views | Churchman |
| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 07:40 - Sep 29 by Burns7 |
What the support didn't know at the time was just how involved Mick McCarthy was with Ipswich. Evans basically had him running the club on a daily basis, and he was the only one in that administration who had any idea of how to do it. He managed the team, ran the club and amazingly kept us up on a budget which was reduced to the 4th or 5th lowest in that league at the end. All our good players were sold and the money wasn't reinvested. We were never going to compete in the Championship with any manager under Evans.
I challenge any manager to succeed with the hand he was dealt here, the fact he had us in the top half a few seasons showed he actually was a good manager, just it was never sustainable with Evans vision for a cost free club. I agree his football was dire at the end, it was functional to get points on the board but Hurst and Lambert had a chunk of those same players and not only could only manage just 1 win between them in the Championship, also failed to get them out of League One two seasons running. The biggest issue at the end was Evans was clearly planning to keep Mick in post (later blaming the fans for getting rid) and had absolutely no succession plan in place once he did, and thus why we are here.
I will look back at the Mick days with some fondness, I liked the battle in a lot of teams and players. I like a lot of the players we had who overachieved through hard work. Bart, Gerken, Chambers, Smith, Berra, Mings, Knudsen, Tabb, Skuse, Anderson, the Hunts, Williams, Murphy, Didz, Sears, Bishop, Bru and Hyam. Not a bad bunch at all. |
Actually, if Dyer and co are to be believed, McCarthy didn’t run the club at all. He managed the first team (and did well with it for a period) and took little interest in the rest of the club. It was all a mess, as Alan Lee so eloquently described.
As for the rest of your post, I will look back at some moments of MMs time with fondness (Charlton, Watford away, M’boro and Leeds at home, Murphy’s goals, McGoldrick, Jonny Willians’ goal against Derby) but by and large it depressed the heck out of me and I was relieved when it ended. Evans employing clueless mugs after MIck doesn’t change that. |  | | |
| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 17:44 - Sep 29 with 1545 views | FBI |
| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 17:35 - Sep 29 by Churchman |
Actually, if Dyer and co are to be believed, McCarthy didn’t run the club at all. He managed the first team (and did well with it for a period) and took little interest in the rest of the club. It was all a mess, as Alan Lee so eloquently described.
As for the rest of your post, I will look back at some moments of MMs time with fondness (Charlton, Watford away, M’boro and Leeds at home, Murphy’s goals, McGoldrick, Jonny Willians’ goal against Derby) but by and large it depressed the heck out of me and I was relieved when it ended. Evans employing clueless mugs after MIck doesn’t change that. |
I remember getting howled down on Not606 when MM was appointed because I said I wasn't particularly excited by his appointment and that his record wasn't as great as we were telling ourselves. I think he could have done more with a better owner but, meh. So what? He's long gone and is about as relevant now as Jackie Milburn's tenure was to John Lyall. |  |
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| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 18:43 - Sep 29 with 1485 views | Swailsey |
| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 11:23 - Sep 29 by MattinLondon |
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I’m maybe one of the most vocal Mick supporters and no, they don’t. Quite rightly. |  |
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| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 19:57 - Sep 29 with 1408 views | Burns7 |
| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 09:43 - Sep 29 by PhilTWTD |
Think the idea that Mick was running the club is a bit far-fetched, whether some of the rest of the post has some truth to it. |
A few people involved with the club have alluded to him having to do a lot of the grind because people at the club either weren't there or not up to the task, especially as more and more people got let go as the years went on. Evans wasn't available, decisions would get made very late in the day, communication was atrocious, and particularly at crucial times it was absolute chaos. I think it will eventually all come out in the wash just how bad it got and how much Mick and his team had to try and hold it together and I understand that Connor and Klug also played their part in keeping the club running to a expected level. Once Mick got uprooted, and Hurst, someone massively underqualified to run this club was put in post, it was only going one way and that was down. |  | | |
| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 21:59 - Sep 29 with 1333 views | Churchman |
| mick mccarthy trending on twitter on 19:57 - Sep 29 by Burns7 |
A few people involved with the club have alluded to him having to do a lot of the grind because people at the club either weren't there or not up to the task, especially as more and more people got let go as the years went on. Evans wasn't available, decisions would get made very late in the day, communication was atrocious, and particularly at crucial times it was absolute chaos. I think it will eventually all come out in the wash just how bad it got and how much Mick and his team had to try and hold it together and I understand that Connor and Klug also played their part in keeping the club running to a expected level. Once Mick got uprooted, and Hurst, someone massively underqualified to run this club was put in post, it was only going one way and that was down. |
You imply that the club was running to a level, thanks to MM until he left. I have to disagree. It’s been declining for years and that accelerated the moment Evans’ quick flip gamble went down the pan.
KDs view was that McCarthy’s door was always open. But if he went to see Him, Mick would be looking at his watch. In other words, he wasn’t interested. Chambers said that once Milton was forced out there was nobody to introduce new players and show them around. That’s just two glimpses of how the club was operating.
I don’t think Mick and Terry did anything other than the first team - and I don’t blame him in the least for that. Klug did the yoofs while Evans replaced his staff with yes men and Milne and co just bimbled around, presumably making sure Evans’ bog roll was three ply.
The club wasn’t kept to any standards or level. That’s a fundamental reason why we are marooned in League One. No scouting, rubbish facilities, nothing from the Academy of the Wickham level of fees since him, broken light bulbs, you name it. Decline to oblivion right up to last March. | | | |
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