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Outstanding interview by Naga Manchetty 07:59 - Oct 1 with 1858 viewsbluelagos

With Kit Malthouse (Policing Minister) on BBC breakfast just now. Sure anyone can see it on catch up if interested.

Her calm yet forensic questioning around the consequences of the conviction of Wayne Couzens, of the ongoing failure of the police to deal with cultural issues, including the failure to whistleblow where they come across misogynistic colllegaues, shone a light on the failure of the police to address these issues, tragically ending in the murder of Sarah Everard.

She also clearly highlighted the awful position a single woman may find herself in, if stopped by an individual male officer who wanted to arrest her.

And the question of whether Crissida Dick is the person to oversee any changes given her role at the head of the very organisation that continues to demonstrate a failure to address cultural issues around institutional sexism and of cover up.




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Outstanding interview by Naga Manchetty on 08:07 - Oct 1 with 1808 viewsDanTheMan

Caught it by accident as I don't usually watch TV in the morning but it was excellent. Some very good questions, particularly around the advice given around plain clothes officers which did seem quite absurd.

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Outstanding interview by Naga Manchetty on 08:10 - Oct 1 with 1789 viewsbluelagos

Outstanding interview by Naga Manchetty on 08:07 - Oct 1 by DanTheMan

Caught it by accident as I don't usually watch TV in the morning but it was excellent. Some very good questions, particularly around the advice given around plain clothes officers which did seem quite absurd.


Probably the best advice I think comes here from an ex-officer.


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Outstanding interview by Naga Manchetty on 08:13 - Oct 1 with 1777 viewsHerbivore

Outstanding interview by Naga Manchetty on 08:07 - Oct 1 by DanTheMan

Caught it by accident as I don't usually watch TV in the morning but it was excellent. Some very good questions, particularly around the advice given around plain clothes officers which did seem quite absurd.


It's a variation of what the Met (and the government actually) have been doing for years, placing responsibility on potential victims to keep themselves safe rather than tackling the wider issue in any meaningful way.

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Outstanding interview by Naga Manchetty on 08:25 - Oct 1 with 1729 viewsbluelagos

Outstanding interview by Naga Manchetty on 08:13 - Oct 1 by Herbivore

It's a variation of what the Met (and the government actually) have been doing for years, placing responsibility on potential victims to keep themselves safe rather than tackling the wider issue in any meaningful way.


Clear there are a number of colliding issues highlighted by this case.

Societal issues around violence to women and girls, justice system failings in obtaining convictions for sexual offences and policing issues of both internal failings (Vetting / whistleblowing) and their own failings to deal with misogyny in their ranks.

The Macpherson report highlighted to the Met police (and to society - as no one serious thought the failings were only in the police force) the issue of institutional racism.

Now surely is the time when institutional sexism/misogyny is addressed within the police, justice system and wider society? If not now, then when?

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Outstanding interview by Naga Manchetty on 08:32 - Oct 1 with 1682 viewsHerbivore

Outstanding interview by Naga Manchetty on 08:25 - Oct 1 by bluelagos

Clear there are a number of colliding issues highlighted by this case.

Societal issues around violence to women and girls, justice system failings in obtaining convictions for sexual offences and policing issues of both internal failings (Vetting / whistleblowing) and their own failings to deal with misogyny in their ranks.

The Macpherson report highlighted to the Met police (and to society - as no one serious thought the failings were only in the police force) the issue of institutional racism.

Now surely is the time when institutional sexism/misogyny is addressed within the police, justice system and wider society? If not now, then when?


The Met have been very resistant to changing how gender based violence is treated: https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/met-clash-with-ministers-genderbased-crime

I'd like to think this will be a moment of genuine reflection and change but I can't see it. Their response to the vigil held after Sarah Everard's death was appalling and their defence of it even more abject. That their first response to the sentencing of Sarah Everard's murderer is to tell women to call for help if a plain clothes police officer tries to arrest them doesn't exactly suggest an organisation that's looking to immediately get it's own house in order.
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Outstanding interview by Naga Manchetty on 08:42 - Oct 1 with 1617 viewsbluelagos

Outstanding interview by Naga Manchetty on 08:32 - Oct 1 by Herbivore

The Met have been very resistant to changing how gender based violence is treated: https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/met-clash-with-ministers-genderbased-crime

I'd like to think this will be a moment of genuine reflection and change but I can't see it. Their response to the vigil held after Sarah Everard's death was appalling and their defence of it even more abject. That their first response to the sentencing of Sarah Everard's murderer is to tell women to call for help if a plain clothes police officer tries to arrest them doesn't exactly suggest an organisation that's looking to immediately get it's own house in order.
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The link doesn't work Herbi.

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Outstanding interview by Naga Manchetty on 08:45 - Oct 1 with 1607 viewsDanTheMan

Outstanding interview by Naga Manchetty on 08:42 - Oct 1 by bluelagos

The link doesn't work Herbi.


https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/met-clash-with-ministers-genderbased-crime

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Outstanding interview by Naga Manchetty on 08:49 - Oct 1 with 1589 viewsBluefish

Naga is my absolute queen

Never look at her name on twitter though when she is I'm tv. She gets horrendous abuse from gammons

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Outstanding interview by Naga Manchetty on 09:13 - Oct 1 with 1511 viewsHerbivore

Outstanding interview by Naga Manchetty on 08:42 - Oct 1 by bluelagos

The link doesn't work Herbi.


Think I've fixed it, not sure what happened there.

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Outstanding interview by Naga Manchetty on 09:54 - Oct 1 with 1446 viewsGeoffSentence

"including the failure to whistleblow where they come across misogynistic colllegaues"

But no-one likes a grass.

I hope anybody who actually thinks like that will reflect upon the real harm it does.

Don't boil a kettle on a boat.
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Outstanding interview by Naga Manchetty on 10:02 - Oct 1 with 1428 viewsbluelagos

Outstanding interview by Naga Manchetty on 09:54 - Oct 1 by GeoffSentence

"including the failure to whistleblow where they come across misogynistic colllegaues"

But no-one likes a grass.

I hope anybody who actually thinks like that will reflect upon the real harm it does.


Parm Sandhu yesterday described how female officers didn't report male ones, for fear that when they were in need of backup, they would then be left alone.

Something is clearly horribly wrong if that is a real fear of female officers and if that then prevents them speaking out against misogynistic colleagues.

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Outstanding interview by Naga Manchetty on 12:35 - Oct 1 with 1256 viewsbluelagos

Outstanding interview by Naga Manchetty on 10:02 - Oct 1 by bluelagos

Parm Sandhu yesterday described how female officers didn't report male ones, for fear that when they were in need of backup, they would then be left alone.

Something is clearly horribly wrong if that is a real fear of female officers and if that then prevents them speaking out against misogynistic colleagues.


And it seems that even when police are reported for crimes, they are less likely to be convicted.


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Outstanding interview by Naga Manchetty on 13:50 - Oct 1 with 1126 viewsbluelagos

A short clip. The second question from 1.34 is particularly pointed.


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Outstanding interview by Naga Manchetty on 13:52 - Oct 1 with 1121 viewsHerbivore

Outstanding interview by Naga Manchetty on 13:50 - Oct 1 by bluelagos

A short clip. The second question from 1.34 is particularly pointed.



It's incredibly hard for this Tory government to call for the resignation of anyone on grounds related to competence, credibility, or ethics. When they have none themselves, expecting it from others simply isn't in their MO.

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Outstanding interview by Naga Manchetty on 15:00 - Oct 1 with 1020 viewsGavTWTD

Naga is excellent. Intelligent, asks the right questions, listens to what the other person is saying, appreciates the free time that the other person has given to be on the programme at crap-o-clock, and shows tremendeous empathy generally.

Charlie Stayt on the other hand is a cockwomble who is unable to ask a question under 100 words long.

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Outstanding interview by Naga Manchetty on 15:40 - Oct 1 with 959 viewsKievthegreat

Turns out there's multiple Tories talking absolute $h1t today.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-58762029

From the North Yorkshire Police and Crime Commissioner:

"So women, first of all, need to be streetwise about when they can be arrested and when they can't be arrested. SHE should never have been arrested and SUBMITTED to that," he said.

"Perhaps women need to consider in terms of the legal process, to just learn a bit about that legal process".
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Outstanding interview by Naga Manchetty on 15:55 - Oct 1 with 922 viewsDanTheMan

Outstanding interview by Naga Manchetty on 15:40 - Oct 1 by Kievthegreat

Turns out there's multiple Tories talking absolute $h1t today.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-58762029

From the North Yorkshire Police and Crime Commissioner:

"So women, first of all, need to be streetwise about when they can be arrested and when they can't be arrested. SHE should never have been arrested and SUBMITTED to that," he said.

"Perhaps women need to consider in terms of the legal process, to just learn a bit about that legal process".


Fecking hell.

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Outstanding interview by Naga Manchetty on 15:58 - Oct 1 with 911 viewsEwan_Oozami

Outstanding interview by Naga Manchetty on 15:40 - Oct 1 by Kievthegreat

Turns out there's multiple Tories talking absolute $h1t today.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-58762029

From the North Yorkshire Police and Crime Commissioner:

"So women, first of all, need to be streetwise about when they can be arrested and when they can't be arrested. SHE should never have been arrested and SUBMITTED to that," he said.

"Perhaps women need to consider in terms of the legal process, to just learn a bit about that legal process".


Exhibit A m'lud - absolutely no self-awareness or understanding at all....

Just one small problem; sell their houses to who, Ben? Fcking Aquaman?
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Outstanding interview by Naga Manchetty on 16:10 - Oct 1 with 884 viewsHerbivore

Outstanding interview by Naga Manchetty on 15:40 - Oct 1 by Kievthegreat

Turns out there's multiple Tories talking absolute $h1t today.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-58762029

From the North Yorkshire Police and Crime Commissioner:

"So women, first of all, need to be streetwise about when they can be arrested and when they can't be arrested. SHE should never have been arrested and SUBMITTED to that," he said.

"Perhaps women need to consider in terms of the legal process, to just learn a bit about that legal process".


What an absolute bellend.

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Outstanding interview by Naga Manchetty on 17:32 - Oct 1 with 808 viewsbluelagos

And let this bit of news sink in.

Serving officers spoke in support of Wayne Couzens at the sentencing stage. From the quote from Nazir Afzal in the article, it appears this was after he had pleaded guilty for murder.

Serving officers...

https://inews.co.uk/news/sarah-everard-met-police-officers-support-wayne-couzens

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