| A plea to the Cook outers 19:24 - Oct 2 with 2584 views | waveneyblue |
I get that it was very apparent Hurst was out of his depth and had bought badly.
I get it that Lambert had only ever really done well at Norwich and dined off that for years.
But Cook IS a tried and tested very good manager at this level. He's had success numerous times.
Will you all just calm the fcuk down, please.
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| A plea to the Cook outers on 19:26 - Oct 2 with 2048 views | Herbivore |
6 wins in 27 games in the third division. Those who have concerns aren't exactly getting on his back after one or two games. His record here has been really poor. |  |
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| A plea to the Cook outers on 19:29 - Oct 2 with 2032 views | N2_Blue |
Calm down:
P28 W6 D11 L11
Yes carry on then!
He has had 28 games....and quarter of this season with a very good squad, his squad and we are still turning in performances like today.
I could accept losing today, never an easy game.
However I cannot accept the performance on the back of his record here. |  |
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| A plea to the Cook outers on 19:29 - Oct 2 with 2030 views | waveneyblue |
| A plea to the Cook outers on 19:26 - Oct 2 by Herbivore |
6 wins in 27 games in the third division. Those who have concerns aren't exactly getting on his back after one or two games. His record here has been really poor. |
Agreed it has... BUT, bear with me.
It's now one defeat in 4.
It could so easily become one defeat in 6, or 7.
Patience is still needed..... | | | |
| A plea to the Cook outers on 19:31 - Oct 2 with 2002 views | Herbivore |
| A plea to the Cook outers on 19:29 - Oct 2 by waveneyblue |
Agreed it has... BUT, bear with me.
It's now one defeat in 4.
It could so easily become one defeat in 6, or 7.
Patience is still needed..... |
For how long should we stay patient whilst another season in the third division passes us by? | |
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| A plea to the Cook outers on 19:32 - Oct 2 with 1993 views | BlueBadger |
| A plea to the Cook outers on 19:29 - Oct 2 by waveneyblue |
Agreed it has... BUT, bear with me.
It's now one defeat in 4.
It could so easily become one defeat in 6, or 7.
Patience is still needed..... |
No. No more free hits. Free hits is what saw us relegated and marooned.
F**k free hits. |  |
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| A plea to the Cook outers on 19:34 - Oct 2 with 1960 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| A plea to the Cook outers on 19:29 - Oct 2 by waveneyblue |
Agreed it has... BUT, bear with me.
It's now one defeat in 4.
It could so easily become one defeat in 6, or 7.
Patience is still needed..... |
Do you have any concern that Cook is not the right man? Personally I wonder if he needs someone in as a number 2 with sound tactical acumen.
Either way, I think the next 5 matches will determine his future. |  |
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| A plea to the Cook outers on 19:34 - Oct 2 with 1957 views | waveneyblue |
| A plea to the Cook outers on 19:31 - Oct 2 by Herbivore |
For how long should we stay patient whilst another season in the third division passes us by? |
Has it actually passed us by... there's 36 games left.
108 points to play for.
The game changer thing is the best thing to happen to the club for 30 odd years and the worst that's happened for a huge percentage of our "fan" base | | | |
| A plea to the Cook outers on 19:35 - Oct 2 with 1943 views | CokeIsKey |
Not without Wigan's current manager being his partner - on his own he's had a bit of success in Ireland 15 years ago, a poor stint at Southport and not much else. |  |
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| A plea to the Cook outers on 19:36 - Oct 2 with 1931 views | Steve_M |
| A plea to the Cook outers on 19:34 - Oct 2 by waveneyblue |
Has it actually passed us by... there's 36 games left.
108 points to play for.
The game changer thing is the best thing to happen to the club for 30 odd years and the worst that's happened for a huge percentage of our "fan" base |
True, we might manage 10 wins at this rate. Get a few draws too and we might just stay up. |  |
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| A plea to the Cook outers on 19:37 - Oct 2 with 1908 views | waveneyblue |
| A plea to the Cook outers on 19:34 - Oct 2 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Do you have any concern that Cook is not the right man? Personally I wonder if he needs someone in as a number 2 with sound tactical acumen.
Either way, I think the next 5 matches will determine his future. |
Of course I have concerns. Massive ones
But changing manager now would be so counter productive.
It's genuinely not time to hit the reset button | | | |
| A plea to the Cook outers on 19:40 - Oct 2 with 1869 views | Herbivore |
| A plea to the Cook outers on 19:34 - Oct 2 by waveneyblue |
Has it actually passed us by... there's 36 games left.
108 points to play for.
The game changer thing is the best thing to happen to the club for 30 odd years and the worst that's happened for a huge percentage of our "fan" base |
It hasn't passed us by yet but if we continue our form from the first 10 games for much longer then it will have done. You urge patience, but we can't afford to just sit and wait for form that doesn't look like coming. [Post edited 2 Oct 2021 19:42]
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| A plea to the Cook outers on 19:40 - Oct 2 with 1868 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| A plea to the Cook outers on 19:37 - Oct 2 by waveneyblue |
Of course I have concerns. Massive ones
But changing manager now would be so counter productive.
It's genuinely not time to hit the reset button |
That's a fair position.
Although, if he turns out not to be the right man, the longer we leave him in post the worse the situation becomes. | |
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| A plea to the Cook outers on 19:40 - Oct 2 with 1866 views | EastTownBlue |
| A plea to the Cook outers on 19:34 - Oct 2 by waveneyblue |
Has it actually passed us by... there's 36 games left.
108 points to play for.
The game changer thing is the best thing to happen to the club for 30 odd years and the worst that's happened for a huge percentage of our "fan" base |
Do you have a value of this "huge percentage" ? |  | | |
| A plea to the Cook outers on 19:44 - Oct 2 with 1814 views | waveneyblue |
| A plea to the Cook outers on 19:40 - Oct 2 by EastTownBlue |
Do you have a value of this "huge percentage" ? |
Yeah, look on here, twitter or Facebook it will soon become apparent | | | |
| A plea to the Cook outers on 19:45 - Oct 2 with 1804 views | ElderGrizzly |
| A plea to the Cook outers on 19:34 - Oct 2 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Do you have any concern that Cook is not the right man? Personally I wonder if he needs someone in as a number 2 with sound tactical acumen.
Either way, I think the next 5 matches will determine his future. |
I think there are real concerns over Cook’s coaching team (or lack of)
Anything less than 18 pts by the end of October will probably see him gone, especially when playoffs are already 9 ahead and promotion 12 ahead.
Worrying |  | | |
| A plea to the Cook outers on 20:16 - Oct 2 with 1688 views | Churchman |
Yes, I get that. It’s a shame you don’t get points for ‘track record’, isn’t it.
I stand by end of October and his start to this month is so disappointing. The reality is 10 games in we are a poor team. We are relegation fodder. 2 wins in 10 games. 10 points and we are lucky to have those. We are not good enough. It’s not a question of calming down. If that team cannot match the opposition with the basics, forget the rest. We can’t match anyone organised and together. We are easy meat.
In the relegation area after nearly a quarter of the season, mid table is realistically the target now. It’s not good enough. Cook’s time here has been truly awful. Tuesdays result was great, but it’s not enough. Unless it’s backed up it’s meaningless and against better opposition we never came close.
People talk about him bringing his players in. Maybe that’s the problem. They are actually meant to be professional footballers and when he goes, what are they going to do? Put in a transfer and head to Colchester? No, they’ll get on with it.
As I say, he has till the end of October and that’s being generous. We can’t wait for him forever in hope that he he might start doing a decent job. He seems all over the place and I can’t see him lasting. |  | | |
| A plea to the Cook outers on 20:18 - Oct 2 with 1677 views | TractorWood |
Results business. Needs to go. |  |
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| A plea to the Cook outers on 20:27 - Oct 2 with 1631 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| A plea to the Cook outers on 19:40 - Oct 2 by Herbivore |
It hasn't passed us by yet but if we continue our form from the first 10 games for much longer then it will have done. You urge patience, but we can't afford to just sit and wait for form that doesn't look like coming. [Post edited 2 Oct 2021 19:42]
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Would you advocate sacking him now then? |  |
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| A plea to the Cook outers on 20:32 - Oct 2 with 1587 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
| A plea to the Cook outers on 19:29 - Oct 2 by waveneyblue |
Agreed it has... BUT, bear with me.
It's now one defeat in 4.
It could so easily become one defeat in 6, or 7.
Patience is still needed..... |
It is also 2 wins in 10 and could easily become 2 wins in 12...15...etc |  |
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| A plea to the Cook outers on 20:35 - Oct 2 with 1563 views | OriginalMarkyP |
| A plea to the Cook outers on 20:27 - Oct 2 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Would you advocate sacking him now then? |
Well what would you suggest Flashing?
What's the point at when it's OK to say Cook isn't getting it out of these players?
15 games? 20 games? 30 games?.
And I'm not counting all the games he had last season where he arrogantly wrote off a side that were only a couple of points off the playoffs, who then funnily enough weren't that bothered about playing for him.
How long do we wait? |  |
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| A plea to the Cook outers on 20:43 - Oct 2 with 1518 views | Seablu |
| A plea to the Cook outers on 20:27 - Oct 2 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Would you advocate sacking him now then? |
Well I would.
Then again, I have the patience of an aerosol can on a bonfire.
He’s a busted flush and the poo is backing up.
Next one please. |  | | |
| A plea to the Cook outers on 20:53 - Oct 2 with 1486 views | ZXBlue |
Tried and tested with a decent assistant- who has proved himself already elsewhere. Raises a certain suspicion about who the brains of the outfit was previously. | | | |
| A plea to the Cook outers on 21:04 - Oct 2 with 1437 views | Seablu |
| A plea to the Cook outers on 20:53 - Oct 2 by ZXBlue |
Tried and tested with a decent assistant- who has proved himself already elsewhere. Raises a certain suspicion about who the brains of the outfit was previously. |
Yep,
We’ve hired Dr Watson for a tidy sum.
He’s spotted an angry poodle in Bootle.
Holmes is hot on the trail of a larger hound in Baskerville territory. | | | |
| A plea to the Cook outers on 21:08 - Oct 2 with 1424 views | phillev231069 |
I'll calm down when we are out of the relegation zone, until them I'm just a tad concerned. Cook is struggling without decent back up and that is plainly obvious. | | | |
| A plea to the Cook outers on 22:20 - Oct 2 with 1269 views | Radlett_blue |
| A plea to the Cook outers on 20:35 - Oct 2 by OriginalMarkyP |
Well what would you suggest Flashing?
What's the point at when it's OK to say Cook isn't getting it out of these players?
15 games? 20 games? 30 games?.
And I'm not counting all the games he had last season where he arrogantly wrote off a side that were only a couple of points off the playoffs, who then funnily enough weren't that bothered about playing for him.
How long do we wait? |
There is next to no evidence from his time at Town that Cook has any idea how to set up & manage a football team.
He came in & inherited a team on the verge of the play offs & took them to mid table.
He has been given a vast budget by the standard of this league & has brought in players who should be some of the best at this level. Town have won 2 out of 12 games (14 if you count Cup games). These results aren't just down to bad luck - Town haven't played well in the majority of these games & frequently get bullied by clubs with inferior squads. Cook knows these leagues well, having had success, so he should know what is required.
The only conclusion I can draw is that Cook is something of a fraud & is out of his depth without Leam Richardson who, interestingly, declined to come to Town as Cook's assistant. |  |
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