| Is it possible to gain 9 pts more than every team in the league 13:59 - Oct 6 with 2390 views | Vic |
Over the next 35 games?
If so the play offs are definitely still on.
Bigger gaps are made up all the time, I can’t see why we seem to be assuming it can’t/won’t be done.
Obviously it assumes the team starts to win consistently. - but that is entirely possible with the squad we have. |  |
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| Is it possible to gain 9 pts more than every team in the league on 19:04 - Oct 6 with 519 views | davblue |
| Is it possible to gain 9 pts more than every team in the league on 17:02 - Oct 6 by chrismakin |
This league isnt easy to get out of
You really have to mix up the style of play to get out of it. We've failed to do that which is why we are still here |
I thought once everyone understood the 4 2 3 1 and Cooks style we would be unbeatable and we were just unlucky with mistakes earlier on in the season? |  | | |
| Is it possible to gain 9 pts more than every team in the league on 19:22 - Oct 6 with 514 views | Vic |
| Is it possible to gain 9 pts more than every team in the league on 15:36 - Oct 6 by Guthrum |
They've opened up that gap over us in only 10 fixtures and can be reeled back in just as fast - if we can start winning consistently. |
That’s how I tend to see it. | |
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| Is it possible to gain 9 pts more than every team in the league on 19:58 - Oct 6 with 483 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Is it possible to gain 9 pts more than every team in the league on 17:14 - Oct 6 by positivity |
city went up first chance through a last minute playoff win, guessing wolves are the others?
sunderland have been down longer than us, leeds had 3 goes [Post edited 6 Oct 2021 17:15]
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Missed that you’d listed Leeds - but as another poster has pointed out they only stayed down so long as they had a 15 point deduction and would otherwise have gone back up first time. Probably easier to just link my post from the other day on this subject really
I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert by C_HealyIsAPleasure 4 Oct 2021 9:20We’re certainly making harder work of it than most though
Looking at the big clubs that have come down to here in the last 20 or so years:
Man City, Leicester, Norwich, Wolves and Blackburn were all promoted at the first attempt
Sheffield Weds (1st time around) and Southampton did it second time around
Forest, Leeds and Charlton (twice) did it at the third go, all having made the playoffs beforehand. Leeds would have gone up automatically first time around had they not been deducted 15 points
Sunderland are on their 4th attempt but have made the playoffs twice, and currently sit second
Sheffield United are the outliers taking 6 seasons, but again did playoffs 3 times beforehand including their first 2 seasons
Portsmouth, Bolton and Coventry I think are somewhat different cases, given they were all basically bankrupt when they came down
So looking at like for like cases, if we don’t go up this season we’ll have taken longer than everyone bar Sunderland and Sheffield United, and we’re already behind the curve on those too having not even yet made the playoffs
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| Is it possible to gain 9 pts more than every team in the league on 20:05 - Oct 6 with 475 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Is it possible to gain 9 pts more than every team in the league on 19:58 - Oct 6 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Missed that you’d listed Leeds - but as another poster has pointed out they only stayed down so long as they had a 15 point deduction and would otherwise have gone back up first time. Probably easier to just link my post from the other day on this subject really
I don't hate Cook like I did Lambert by C_HealyIsAPleasure 4 Oct 2021 9:20We’re certainly making harder work of it than most though
Looking at the big clubs that have come down to here in the last 20 or so years:
Man City, Leicester, Norwich, Wolves and Blackburn were all promoted at the first attempt
Sheffield Weds (1st time around) and Southampton did it second time around
Forest, Leeds and Charlton (twice) did it at the third go, all having made the playoffs beforehand. Leeds would have gone up automatically first time around had they not been deducted 15 points
Sunderland are on their 4th attempt but have made the playoffs twice, and currently sit second
Sheffield United are the outliers taking 6 seasons, but again did playoffs 3 times beforehand including their first 2 seasons
Portsmouth, Bolton and Coventry I think are somewhat different cases, given they were all basically bankrupt when they came down
So looking at like for like cases, if we don’t go up this season we’ll have taken longer than everyone bar Sunderland and Sheffield United, and we’re already behind the curve on those too having not even yet made the playoffs
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On a related note, Colin Calderwood at Forest is the only manager from the clubs above to have kept his job after failing to get promotion over a full season and then gone on to win promotion. That was in 2008
So the odds are somewhat stacked against Cook retaining his job here and taking us up, should he not do so this season | |
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| Is it possible to gain 9 pts more than every team in the league on 20:19 - Oct 6 with 458 views | jontysnut |
| Is it possible to gain 9 pts more than every team in the league on 19:22 - Oct 6 by Vic |
That’s how I tend to see it. |
I can't really see them having a 10 game spell like us and vice versa. Gap's only going to grow and Cookie's going to be like that knight in Monty Python denying the obvious. 3 or 4 wins on the bounce then I'll hold my hands up. |  | | |
| Is it possible to gain 9 pts more than every team in the league on 20:26 - Oct 6 with 455 views | MackemLad |
| Is it possible to gain 9 pts more than every team in the league on 19:22 - Oct 6 by Vic |
That’s how I tend to see it. |
There's nothing spectacular about the form the clubs above are showing (when comparing to the 9 point gap to catch up). To catch up inside the same amount of games (ten) is a massive task though.
MK Dons, 9 points ahead currently, are setting 1.72 points per game. Assuming that their form continues (and does not improve or slide), it would require Ipswich to win the next 7 games in a row, to just draw level. Not saying that is not possible, but it's tough.
Looking at your fixture list coming up, I think the rest of October looks reasonable to accumulate wins, Plymouth and Portsmouth aside. November looks more difficult with Sunderland, Rotherham and Wycombe to play, and getting maximum points from those three games will be tough.
9 points over the course of the rest of the season though is not much at all. Nor is the 12 point gap to Wigan and ourselves. But I don't see that gap being closed (if at all) until spring at the earliest. My humble opinion of course |  | | |
| Is it possible to gain 9 pts more than every team in the league on 20:30 - Oct 6 with 452 views | chrismakin |
| Is it possible to gain 9 pts more than every team in the league on 19:04 - Oct 6 by davblue |
I thought once everyone understood the 4 2 3 1 and Cooks style we would be unbeatable and we were just unlucky with mistakes earlier on in the season? |
Well the understanding of the style and the 4 2 3 1 has improved hence the slight upturn in results. Unfortunately, PC called it wrong on saturday tho and was shown up by his friend on the tactical side of things. |  |
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| Is it possible to gain 9 pts more than every team in the league on 20:55 - Oct 6 with 427 views | positivity |
| Is it possible to gain 9 pts more than every team in the league on 20:19 - Oct 6 by jontysnut |
I can't really see them having a 10 game spell like us and vice versa. Gap's only going to grow and Cookie's going to be like that knight in Monty Python denying the obvious. 3 or 4 wins on the bounce then I'll hold my hands up. |
we don't *have* to do in 10 though, or even double that, we have 36 games to do it... | |
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 21:43 - Oct 6 with 397 views | Vic |
| Is it possible to gain 9 pts more than every team in the league on 20:26 - Oct 6 by MackemLad |
There's nothing spectacular about the form the clubs above are showing (when comparing to the 9 point gap to catch up). To catch up inside the same amount of games (ten) is a massive task though.
MK Dons, 9 points ahead currently, are setting 1.72 points per game. Assuming that their form continues (and does not improve or slide), it would require Ipswich to win the next 7 games in a row, to just draw level. Not saying that is not possible, but it's tough.
Looking at your fixture list coming up, I think the rest of October looks reasonable to accumulate wins, Plymouth and Portsmouth aside. November looks more difficult with Sunderland, Rotherham and Wycombe to play, and getting maximum points from those three games will be tough.
9 points over the course of the rest of the season though is not much at all. Nor is the 12 point gap to Wigan and ourselves. But I don't see that gap being closed (if at all) until spring at the earliest. My humble opinion of course |
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| Is it possible to gain 9 pts more than every team in the league on 22:17 - Oct 6 with 383 views | davblue |
| Is it possible to gain 9 pts more than every team in the league on 20:30 - Oct 6 by chrismakin |
Well the understanding of the style and the 4 2 3 1 has improved hence the slight upturn in results. Unfortunately, PC called it wrong on saturday tho and was shown up by his friend on the tactical side of things. |
Did you go too early on the Cook love in? | | | |
| Is it possible to gain 9 pts more than every team in the league on 22:42 - Oct 6 with 361 views | chrismakin |
| Is it possible to gain 9 pts more than every team in the league on 22:17 - Oct 6 by davblue |
Did you go too early on the Cook love in? |
Don't know yet
Revisit end of Oct we will have answer I reckon. Big month for PC this. | |
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| Is it possible to gain 9 pts more than every team in the league on 23:28 - Oct 6 with 345 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Is it possible to gain 9 pts more than every team in the league on 15:36 - Oct 6 by Guthrum |
They've opened up that gap over us in only 10 fixtures and can be reeled back in just as fast - if we can start winning consistently. |
what have you been smoking Guthers? It’s theoretically possibly but very unlikely that all of the top 6 will start dropping enough points to allow us to catch up over the season let alone the next 10 games. I suppose someone has to win the lottery, but still. |  |
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