| Great work by Insulate UK to get people on board with their cause 14:45 - Oct 8 with 3027 views | GlasgowBlue |
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| Great work by Insulate UK to get people on board with their cause on 08:37 - Oct 9 with 766 views | Churchman |
| Great work by Insulate UK to get people on board with their cause on 14:57 - Oct 8 by SaleAway |
yeah, but on a national scale, its not likely to cause a great deal of harm...
this is why they are hated, they have a big impact on individuals who can do nothing to solve a problem, but the impact doesn't really affect the people who can solve it. |
As a matter of interest, how many innocent lives need to be endangered before it causes a ‘great deal of harm’? To get attention, wouldn’t it be simpler to blockade hospitals? That really would get the attention the organisers crave. A few 1000 lives in the great scheme of things wouldn’t cause a great deal of harm. According to that protester, the issue is more important than a life and think of the publicity.
Ok I’m being a bit daft here, but the principle of that is actually little different to what these people are doing - using innocent people’s time as a weapon.
You are quite right, the impact doesn’t really affect the people responsible for policy. Blockade Johnson and his mob somewhere and they’d probably get a medal |  | | |
| Great work by Insulate UK to get people on board with their cause on 08:44 - Oct 9 with 757 views | solomon |
| Great work by Insulate UK to get people on board with their cause on 08:37 - Oct 9 by Churchman |
As a matter of interest, how many innocent lives need to be endangered before it causes a ‘great deal of harm’? To get attention, wouldn’t it be simpler to blockade hospitals? That really would get the attention the organisers crave. A few 1000 lives in the great scheme of things wouldn’t cause a great deal of harm. According to that protester, the issue is more important than a life and think of the publicity.
Ok I’m being a bit daft here, but the principle of that is actually little different to what these people are doing - using innocent people’s time as a weapon.
You are quite right, the impact doesn’t really affect the people responsible for policy. Blockade Johnson and his mob somewhere and they’d probably get a medal |
Exactly. I feel the protestors and many involved only know about (or in some cases only care about) protesting full stop, having tangible suggestions or realistic solutions seem way beyond them and ultimately are becoming part of the problem. Insulate Britain needs better leadership than this. |  | | |
| Great work by Insulate UK to get people on board with their cause on 08:46 - Oct 9 with 756 views | Darth_Koont |
Yeah, I’m calling bullsh/t on that LBC caller. |  |
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| Great work by Insulate UK to get people on board with their cause on 09:11 - Oct 9 with 707 views | Herbivore |
I don't think their aim is necessarily to convince people of their methods is it? That's what the poll is about. I doubt Emily Davison throwing herself in front of a horse at the Grand National had majority public support either. When people believe strongly in a cause they will do things that aren't very popular to bring focus on to that cause. Whether they are effective or not will bear out over time. |  |
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| Great work by Insulate UK to get people on board with their cause on 10:27 - Oct 9 with 654 views | Ryorry |
| Great work by Insulate UK to get people on board with their cause on 08:50 - Oct 9 by Darth_Koont |
His unpopularity among the white population was increasing right up until he was shot. With his sit ins, boycotts, protests and demonstrations he was seen by the majority as a troublemaker.
It was only history that made him right and rightfully revered. |
You either completely missed the point or refused to acknowledge it. |  |
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| Great work by Insulate UK to get people on board with their cause on 12:09 - Oct 9 with 604 views | Darth_Koont |
| Great work by Insulate UK to get people on board with their cause on 10:27 - Oct 9 by Ryorry |
You either completely missed the point or refused to acknowledge it. |
Not at all. My point is that his civil disobedience wasn’t accepted at the time either.
History proved him right though. | |
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| Great work by Insulate UK to get people on board with their cause on 12:13 - Oct 9 with 599 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Great work by Insulate UK to get people on board with their cause on 14:55 - Oct 8 by SaleAway |
well, I just finally looked up the demands:
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That the UK government immediately promises to fully fund and take responsibility for the insulation of all social housing in Britain by 2025;
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That the UK government immediately promises to produce within four months a legally binding national plan to fully fund and take responsibility for the full low-energy and low-carbon whole-house retrofit , with no externalised costs, of all homes in Britain by 2030 as part of a just transition to full decarbonisation of all parts of society and the economy.
They want the government in 4 months to understand how to retro-fit every house in britain, and fund it..... hmmmm...... [Post edited 8 Oct 2021 14:56]
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And one of their key spokespeople is someone who owns a multi-millionaire rental property empire, who doesn’t have any of his homes insulated. |  | | |
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| Great work by Insulate UK to get people on board with their cause on 12:25 - Oct 9 with 583 views | Ryorry |
| Great work by Insulate UK to get people on board with their cause on 12:09 - Oct 9 by Darth_Koont |
Not at all. My point is that his civil disobedience wasn’t accepted at the time either.
History proved him right though. |
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| Great work by Insulate UK to get people on board with their cause on 14:03 - Oct 9 with 539 views | loftboy |
| Great work by Insulate UK to get people on board with their cause on 12:25 - Oct 9 by Ryorry |
What a wonderful swerve |
It should be part of a tenancy agreement along with smoke alarms and gas and electric safety certificates, that way the homes would have to be done pre-lease, wouldn’t solve it 100% but would be a big step forward. |  | | |
| Great work by Insulate UK to get people on board with their cause on 14:11 - Oct 9 with 525 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Great work by Insulate UK to get people on board with their cause on 15:06 - Oct 8 by blueislander |
They are supposedly trying to save lives , and yet they are actually endangering some. |
True. But where do you stop with that argument? No doubt people lives are endangered just due to traffic in certain areas as certain times, so do we blame all drivers who are on the roads during rush hour? Equally, I imagine far more lives are endangered as a result of poor running of the ambulance service and NHS in general. So should we be more angry with those who’ve voted for party that’s hamstringing the NHS? List goes on. These guys are small beer in terms of negative impacts. |  |
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| Great work by Insulate UK to get people on board with their cause on 14:24 - Oct 9 with 507 views | Darth_Koont |
| Great work by Insulate UK to get people on board with their cause on 12:25 - Oct 9 by Ryorry |
What a wonderful swerve |
I’m swerving my own point?
That’s novel. | |
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| Great work by Insulate UK to get people on board with their cause on 15:13 - Oct 9 with 457 views | Ryorry |
| Great work by Insulate UK to get people on board with their cause on 14:24 - Oct 9 by Darth_Koont |
I’m swerving my own point?
That’s novel. |
Swerving mine.
But you knew that. | |
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