| "By no means racist" on 17:55 - Oct 10 with 2572 views | SouthBucksBlue |
They evidently had concerns about staying there after reading recent reviews. What’s your point? |  | |  |
| "By no means racist" on 18:27 - Oct 10 with 2515 views | factual_blue |
| "By no means racist" on 17:55 - Oct 10 by SouthBucksBlue |
They evidently had concerns about staying there after reading recent reviews. What’s your point? |
Errr...the reviews that concerned them were ones saying there were Afghan refugees staying the hotel. |  |
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| "By no means racist" on 18:54 - Oct 10 with 2449 views | gtsb1966 |
| "By no means racist" on 18:27 - Oct 10 by factual_blue |
Errr...the reviews that concerned them were ones saying there were Afghan refugees staying the hotel. |
The reviews said there had been instances of thieving and kids running around all over the place. I wouldn't want to stay there either if I read that. |  | | |
| "By no means racist" on 19:03 - Oct 10 with 2386 views | GlasgowBlue |
First of all, these refugees deserve to be housed in good quality accommodation rather than the sh1t holes this country has a reputation for holding them in. So no one should have any issue with them being there.
But the hotel should not be mixing refugees with holiday makers. People go on holiday to relax and get away from their real lives. It’s a break. A decent hotel should be providing a relaxing environment.
And race doesn’t come into it. There were reviews of kids running wild. If I saw a review of a hotel that had kids running wild, red, white, multicoloured, I wouldn’t want to be staying there.
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| "By no means racist" on 19:12 - Oct 10 with 2381 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| "By no means racist" on 19:03 - Oct 10 by GlasgowBlue |
First of all, these refugees deserve to be housed in good quality accommodation rather than the sh1t holes this country has a reputation for holding them in. So no one should have any issue with them being there.
But the hotel should not be mixing refugees with holiday makers. People go on holiday to relax and get away from their real lives. It’s a break. A decent hotel should be providing a relaxing environment.
And race doesn’t come into it. There were reviews of kids running wild. If I saw a review of a hotel that had kids running wild, red, white, multicoloured, I wouldn’t want to be staying there.
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I broadly agree, however the article goes on to say that the hotel has been subject to a hate campaign due to the decision to housing the Refugees, including a bomb hoax, and that it is possible that negative reviews may be fake and part of that campaign.
Had the Hotel responded to the request for comment from the journalists then they might have been able to clarify that. | | | |
| "By no means racist" on 19:20 - Oct 10 with 2331 views | GlasgowBlue |
| "By no means racist" on 19:12 - Oct 10 by ArnoldMoorhen |
I broadly agree, however the article goes on to say that the hotel has been subject to a hate campaign due to the decision to housing the Refugees, including a bomb hoax, and that it is possible that negative reviews may be fake and part of that campaign.
Had the Hotel responded to the request for comment from the journalists then they might have been able to clarify that. |
Yeah that’s completely different. That’s the locals and it’s bang out of order. And if they have given fake reviews then it’s also wrong. | |
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| "By no means racist" on 20:40 - Oct 10 with 2232 views | factual_blue |
| "By no means racist" on 18:54 - Oct 10 by gtsb1966 |
The reviews said there had been instances of thieving and kids running around all over the place. I wouldn't want to stay there either if I read that. |
These are of course without doubt disinterested and dispassionate reviews. | |
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| "By no means racist" on 21:01 - Oct 10 with 2190 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| "By no means racist" on 17:55 - Oct 10 by SouthBucksBlue |
They evidently had concerns about staying there after reading recent reviews. What’s your point? |
I think these were people staying there and writing the reviews rather than who had concerns after reading the reviews.
Of course, there are two possibilities. One is that the hotel has mixed the refugees in with holiday makers and allowed the refugee children to run amok. The other is that these people have overreacted to knowing there are refugees staying in the same hotel when they are having to pay for the same accommodation.
My main point, though, is that whenever someone feels the need to defend their comments with something like "I am being by no means racist" it is rather telling to their underlying thinking. They recognise that their comments are going to sound racist, which then makes you wonder about their full motivation. |  |
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| "By no means racist" on 00:37 - Oct 11 with 2041 views | SouthBucksBlue |
| "By no means racist" on 18:27 - Oct 10 by factual_blue |
Errr...the reviews that concerned them were ones saying there were Afghan refugees staying the hotel. |
Errr…The reviews that concerned them were of children running amok and of thefts. | | | |
| "By no means racist" on 07:48 - Oct 11 with 1951 views | ZXBlue |
| "By no means racist" on 19:12 - Oct 10 by ArnoldMoorhen |
I broadly agree, however the article goes on to say that the hotel has been subject to a hate campaign due to the decision to housing the Refugees, including a bomb hoax, and that it is possible that negative reviews may be fake and part of that campaign.
Had the Hotel responded to the request for comment from the journalists then they might have been able to clarify that. |
The Hotel is famously bad and in awful condition. | | | |
| "By no means racist" on 08:06 - Oct 11 with 1914 views | mikeybloo88 |
| "By no means racist" on 21:01 - Oct 10 by Nthsuffolkblue |
I think these were people staying there and writing the reviews rather than who had concerns after reading the reviews.
Of course, there are two possibilities. One is that the hotel has mixed the refugees in with holiday makers and allowed the refugee children to run amok. The other is that these people have overreacted to knowing there are refugees staying in the same hotel when they are having to pay for the same accommodation.
My main point, though, is that whenever someone feels the need to defend their comments with something like "I am being by no means racist" it is rather telling to their underlying thinking. They recognise that their comments are going to sound racist, which then makes you wonder about their full motivation. |
Perhaps they simply recognise that in this country today, any criticism or negativity towards foreigners or ethnic minority groups will be immediately labelled by some as being racist, even if the observation is valid... so they got their reply in first? |  | | |
| "By no means racist" on 08:21 - Oct 11 with 1883 views | noggin |
| "By no means racist" on 08:06 - Oct 11 by mikeybloo88 |
Perhaps they simply recognise that in this country today, any criticism or negativity towards foreigners or ethnic minority groups will be immediately labelled by some as being racist, even if the observation is valid... so they got their reply in first? |
Evidence? |  |
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| "By no means racist" on 10:57 - Oct 11 with 1784 views | Father_Jack |
| "By no means racist" on 08:06 - Oct 11 by mikeybloo88 |
Perhaps they simply recognise that in this country today, any criticism or negativity towards foreigners or ethnic minority groups will be immediately labelled by some as being racist, even if the observation is valid... so they got their reply in first? |
Criticism or negativity towards an ethnic group (minority or otherwise) is racism by definition. |  |
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| "By no means racist" on 19:10 - Oct 11 with 1624 views | SouthBucksBlue |
| "By no means racist" on 10:57 - Oct 11 by Father_Jack |
Criticism or negativity towards an ethnic group (minority or otherwise) is racism by definition. |
But it wasn’t necessarily towards an ethnic group. It was towards children running amok and towards theft. | | | |
| "By no means racist" on 20:40 - Oct 11 with 1550 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| "By no means racist" on 19:10 - Oct 11 by SouthBucksBlue |
But it wasn’t necessarily towards an ethnic group. It was towards children running amok and towards theft. |
"I am by no means being racist but ..."
Maybe it was purely a comment on how the hotel is run but it doesn't appear that way. | |
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| "By no means racist" on 20:41 - Oct 11 with 1547 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| "By no means racist" on 20:40 - Oct 11 by Nthsuffolkblue |
"I am by no means being racist but ..."
Maybe it was purely a comment on how the hotel is run but it doesn't appear that way. |
My Grandad used to preface almost all of his racist comments with "I don't mean to be racist but ..." | |
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| "By no means racist" on 21:42 - Oct 11 with 1494 views | Father_Jack |
| "By no means racist" on 19:10 - Oct 11 by SouthBucksBlue |
But it wasn’t necessarily towards an ethnic group. It was towards children running amok and towards theft. |
I was responding to MikeyBloo88 who was making a different point. | |
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| "By no means racist" on 22:36 - Oct 11 with 1444 views | SouthBucksBlue |
| "By no means racist" on 20:40 - Oct 11 by Nthsuffolkblue |
"I am by no means being racist but ..."
Maybe it was purely a comment on how the hotel is run but it doesn't appear that way. |
Why not? My interpretation is that the objection was to uncontrolled children and thefts and they wanted to point out that it was not to Afghan refugees. | | | |
| "By no means racist" on 22:40 - Oct 11 with 1439 views | mikeybloo88 |
| "By no means racist" on 10:57 - Oct 11 by Father_Jack |
Criticism or negativity towards an ethnic group (minority or otherwise) is racism by definition. |
No it's not...criticising the actions of a person who is not of the same nationality or colour as me is not necessarily racist, it is simply condemning their actions for being wrong irrespective of their race or colour. | | | |
| "By no means racist" on 22:49 - Oct 11 with 1427 views | SouthBucksBlue |
| "By no means racist" on 22:40 - Oct 11 by mikeybloo88 |
No it's not...criticising the actions of a person who is not of the same nationality or colour as me is not necessarily racist, it is simply condemning their actions for being wrong irrespective of their race or colour. |
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| "By no means racist" on 22:50 - Oct 11 with 1426 views | Father_Jack |
| "By no means racist" on 22:40 - Oct 11 by mikeybloo88 |
No it's not...criticising the actions of a person who is not of the same nationality or colour as me is not necessarily racist, it is simply condemning their actions for being wrong irrespective of their race or colour. |
Yeah and excuse my pedantry but you said "group" not "person". | |
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| "By no means racist" on 06:44 - Oct 12 with 1353 views | noggin |
| "By no means racist" on 22:40 - Oct 11 by mikeybloo88 |
No it's not...criticising the actions of a person who is not of the same nationality or colour as me is not necessarily racist, it is simply condemning their actions for being wrong irrespective of their race or colour. |
"any criticism or negativity towards foreigners or ethnic minority groups will be immediately labelled by some as being racist"
Your words. [Post edited 12 Oct 2021 7:16]
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| "By no means racist" on 06:48 - Oct 12 with 1346 views | noggin |
| "By no means racist" on 20:41 - Oct 11 by Nthsuffolkblue |
My Grandad used to preface almost all of his racist comments with "I don't mean to be racist but ..." |
She literally states that she can't be racist because she once worked with asylum seekers. lol. | |
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