| Peter Reid... 18:37 - Oct 11 with 6816 views | OriginalMarkyP |
...we are becoming Everpool FC.
Joking aside. I am slightly concerned.
Cook repeatedly says he doesnt need a number 2.
Then goes and gets Reid, Oh but he's an advisor, not a number 2.
Cook never criticises his own players.
Then proceeds to do it all the time.
Cook says he wants a tight knit little squad.
Then he goes and gets virtually the biggest most expensive squad in league one.
I like Cook, but he is all over the place. [Post edited 11 Oct 2021 18:38]
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| Peter Reid... on 22:21 - Oct 11 with 2270 views | Guthrum |
| Peter Reid... on 22:09 - Oct 11 by BlueForYou |
How decent was his spell at Sunderland? Did he uproot trees or fail to wake anyone up? I should know but just cant remember. Hoping this can be a positive outcome. |
353 games in charge, 45% win rate, champions of the second tier twice, couple of 7th place finishes in the Prem. Not too shabby. |  |
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| Peter Reid... on 22:25 - Oct 11 with 2264 views | Guthrum |
| Peter Reid... on 21:36 - Oct 11 by BlueForYou |
Question. What qualities does Peter Reid possess that Terry Butcher doesnt? They both played at the same level & in the same England team? Apart from playing different positons, I'm struggling to understand this one. if Reid is such a "guru" how come he hasnt made it in management himself? He kind of fits the post of a football manager.
*edited for atrocious fat fingered spelling [Post edited 11 Oct 2021 21:43]
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Perhaps Reid's lack of previous connection with the club might give him a more detatched, dispassionate view of what may need improving. | |
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| Peter Reid... on 22:27 - Oct 11 with 2264 views | itfcjoe |
I think this is very different to a number 2, it's just someone unofficial to chat too isn't it? I can't imagine he'll even be based down here or get to many games - what was his role at Wigan? |  |
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| Peter Reid... on 22:31 - Oct 11 with 2225 views | chrismakin |
| Peter Reid... on 22:08 - Oct 11 by Swansea_Blue |
The reaction on here is a bit odd. Cook was at Wigan with Richardson and Reid. Everyone seems quite happy to accept that Richardson is the missing link and would be happy to have him here. But poor old Pete isn't getting the same love and affection. He could be just the ticket for PC for all we know. Just having that sounding board/mentor role could be just what he needs. Nobody on here knows either way. |
The funny thing is , Leam learnt from PC and from Reid. He didnt teach them. |  |
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| Peter Reid... on 22:33 - Oct 11 with 2245 views | BlueForYou |
Thanks guys. That was a decent spell at Sunderland, didn’t realise he had so long there. Answers my query. However I think I might have given George Burley a call. [Post edited 11 Oct 2021 22:46]
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| Peter Reid... on 22:48 - Oct 11 with 2218 views | PhilTWTD |
| Peter Reid... on 22:27 - Oct 11 by itfcjoe |
I think this is very different to a number 2, it's just someone unofficial to chat too isn't it? I can't imagine he'll even be based down here or get to many games - what was his role at Wigan? |
Technical director. I think you're right, it would be a very loose role if something is agreed. |  | | |
| Peter Reid... on 23:18 - Oct 11 with 2167 views | chrismakin |
| Peter Reid... on 22:48 - Oct 11 by PhilTWTD |
Technical director. I think you're right, it would be a very loose role if something is agreed. |
Almost like the time craney was kitman but wasn't kitman.... | |
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| Peter Reid... on 23:24 - Oct 11 with 2169 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| Peter Reid... on 19:40 - Oct 11 by Keaneish |
Mmm…
Reid won’t be appointed a number two, he’s mooted as being a technical director. Cook wants infectious, dedicated, professionals at the clubs, Reid is that.
Cook hasn’t criticised any of his own signings. He threw last years lot under the bus, and looking around, he probably had a point.
The tight knit squad he was referring to has two quality players in every position, I read it to be this what he meant. Size wise, first team squad it has been reduced, marginally.
I don’t agree Cook is all over the place. For the first time in a long time, I see a plan. [Post edited 11 Oct 2021 19:56]
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'He threw last years lot under the bus, and looking around, he probably had a point'.
Probably? He certainly had a point. |  | | |
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| Peter Reid... on 00:17 - Oct 12 with 2148 views | BasingstokeBlue |
| Peter Reid... on 22:09 - Oct 11 by BlueForYou |
How decent was his spell at Sunderland? Did he uproot trees or fail to wake anyone up? I should know but just cant remember. Hoping this can be a positive outcome. |
He wasn’t employed as a lumberjack nor as an alarm clock. |  |
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| Peter Reid... on 00:18 - Oct 12 with 2152 views | SuperCoops |
| Peter Reid... on 22:33 - Oct 11 by BlueForYou |
Thanks guys. That was a decent spell at Sunderland, didn’t realise he had so long there. Answers my query. However I think I might have given George Burley a call. [Post edited 11 Oct 2021 22:46]
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Why? Burley has been out the game too long. His appointment would only be a affectionate decision based on reminiscing. |  | | |
| Peter Reid... on 09:20 - Oct 12 with 2091 views | Kieran_Knows |
PAUL COOK NEEDS AN EXPERIENCED FIGURE ALONGSIDE/ABOVE HIM.
Paul Cook appoints experienced figure alongside/above him.
YEAH, BUT NOT HIM. |  |
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| Peter Reid... on 09:56 - Oct 12 with 2057 views | ElephantintheRoom |
When did anybody expect a manager to manage?
There's a good animated dinosaur exhibition near where I live now. One of those would make a good consultant for the franchise - kids love them |  |
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| Peter Reid... on 10:26 - Oct 12 with 2035 views | trncbluearmy |
| Peter Reid... on 00:18 - Oct 12 by SuperCoops |
Why? Burley has been out the game too long. His appointment would only be a affectionate decision based on reminiscing. |
Really do not get all this out of the game theory
When you have been at the level GB has been you don't just forget everything, your contacts don't just disappear your knowledge and experience does not mysteriously disappear
As a tech director would have GB back in a heartbeat,
He's miles ahead of Reid in what he could offer to the club |  | | |
| Peter Reid... on 10:31 - Oct 12 with 2023 views | itfcjoe |
| Peter Reid... on 10:26 - Oct 12 by trncbluearmy |
Really do not get all this out of the game theory
When you have been at the level GB has been you don't just forget everything, your contacts don't just disappear your knowledge and experience does not mysteriously disappear
As a tech director would have GB back in a heartbeat,
He's miles ahead of Reid in what he could offer to the club |
As a club we massively under utilise our legends for anything meaningful on the football side of things.
We are rightly proud of our history, but do absolutely nothing to embrace it on the football side, bar a few coaches in the academy.
The likes of Butcher, Burley, Mills, Wark from the great Robson team, and those from the very good Burley team should be being utilised, and our appointments should have one eye on them going forwards. They know better than anyone what the club should be about, and what it can achieve. | |
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| Peter Reid... on 10:35 - Oct 12 with 2006 views | DanTheMan |
| Peter Reid... on 10:31 - Oct 12 by itfcjoe |
As a club we massively under utilise our legends for anything meaningful on the football side of things.
We are rightly proud of our history, but do absolutely nothing to embrace it on the football side, bar a few coaches in the academy.
The likes of Butcher, Burley, Mills, Wark from the great Robson team, and those from the very good Burley team should be being utilised, and our appointments should have one eye on them going forwards. They know better than anyone what the club should be about, and what it can achieve. |
This was my only minor disappointment with Reid, it feels like we've got a number of ex-players who could do a consultancy role for the club.
I could of course be completely wrong as I don't actually know what Reid is going to be done for the club. Either he's more a part of Cook's staff and would go when Cook departs or he's a more permanent fixture which means Cook shouldn't have too much of a say in it. |  |
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| Peter Reid... on 10:50 - Oct 12 with 1975 views | markchips |
| Peter Reid... on 19:40 - Oct 11 by Keaneish |
Mmm…
Reid won’t be appointed a number two, he’s mooted as being a technical director. Cook wants infectious, dedicated, professionals at the clubs, Reid is that.
Cook hasn’t criticised any of his own signings. He threw last years lot under the bus, and looking around, he probably had a point.
The tight knit squad he was referring to has two quality players in every position, I read it to be this what he meant. Size wise, first team squad it has been reduced, marginally.
I don’t agree Cook is all over the place. For the first time in a long time, I see a plan. [Post edited 11 Oct 2021 19:56]
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I would say the squad size has factually been reduced significantly . Worthwhile referring to Phil's totals rather than EADT's fragmented attempts. | | | |
| Peter Reid... on 10:52 - Oct 12 with 1970 views | itfcjoe |
| Peter Reid... on 10:35 - Oct 12 by DanTheMan |
This was my only minor disappointment with Reid, it feels like we've got a number of ex-players who could do a consultancy role for the club.
I could of course be completely wrong as I don't actually know what Reid is going to be done for the club. Either he's more a part of Cook's staff and would go when Cook departs or he's a more permanent fixture which means Cook shouldn't have too much of a say in it. |
He strikes me very much as a Cook appointment, acting as a mentor or similar which is a good thing and probably needs someone he wants to do so as is common in other businesses
The technical director role will just be a job title you'd presume - but the club needs to do more around it's legends - so far all they've done in that regard is sacked Butcher! | |
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| Peter Reid... on 10:57 - Oct 12 with 1950 views | trncbluearmy |
| Peter Reid... on 10:31 - Oct 12 by itfcjoe |
As a club we massively under utilise our legends for anything meaningful on the football side of things.
We are rightly proud of our history, but do absolutely nothing to embrace it on the football side, bar a few coaches in the academy.
The likes of Butcher, Burley, Mills, Wark from the great Robson team, and those from the very good Burley team should be being utilised, and our appointments should have one eye on them going forwards. They know better than anyone what the club should be about, and what it can achieve. |
Not sure about that,
there is certainly a place for GB and it would be real shame if Reid because he's a mate/scouse, got a job GB would be well suited for.
Of the others TB and MM have both struggled as managers,have any of the others shown any real desire to get involved?
Would certainly find a senior role for Simon Milton if he was willing to give up his full time charity work and of course KD is a manager in waiting and should now be Cook's 2ic | | | |
| Peter Reid... on 11:30 - Oct 12 with 1910 views | portmanroadblue |
Think he could check out the Northern clubs we have to play and give advise on teams weaknesses. |  | | |
| Peter Reid... on 11:33 - Oct 12 with 1905 views | itfcjoe |
| Peter Reid... on 10:57 - Oct 12 by trncbluearmy |
Not sure about that,
there is certainly a place for GB and it would be real shame if Reid because he's a mate/scouse, got a job GB would be well suited for.
Of the others TB and MM have both struggled as managers,have any of the others shown any real desire to get involved?
Would certainly find a senior role for Simon Milton if he was willing to give up his full time charity work and of course KD is a manager in waiting and should now be Cook's 2ic |
I'm not necessarily saying they should be involved in the management of the football team, but there should be a way to find use of former England captains that love the club and are here nearly every home game. | |
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| Peter Reid... on 11:54 - Oct 12 with 1865 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Peter Reid... on 10:26 - Oct 12 by trncbluearmy |
Really do not get all this out of the game theory
When you have been at the level GB has been you don't just forget everything, your contacts don't just disappear your knowledge and experience does not mysteriously disappear
As a tech director would have GB back in a heartbeat,
He's miles ahead of Reid in what he could offer to the club |
Agreed, its a lazy excuse. |  |
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| Peter Reid... on 11:57 - Oct 12 with 1862 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Peter Reid... on 00:18 - Oct 12 by SuperCoops |
Why? Burley has been out the game too long. His appointment would only be a affectionate decision based on reminiscing. |
Peter Reid hasn't had any success in football since Sunderland. And that was c.20 years ago. | |
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| Peter Reid... on 12:35 - Oct 12 with 1829 views | istanblue |
Never found Peter Reid insightful or particularly knowledgeable whenever I've listened to him. Smacks of just another of PC's gis a job scouse mates. |  | | |
| Peter Reid... on 13:15 - Oct 12 with 1805 views | Pendejo |
| Peter Reid... on 21:09 - Oct 11 by reusersfreekicks |
Pertinent aspect there is 84-87 - 34 years ago |
My comment was a mere wish to hit the heights of that team, or ITFC Burley era, anything other than the dark cave we currently reside in.
As for pertinence : Southall is long since retired, Kendall dead etc etc |  |
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| Peter Reid... on 15:06 - Oct 12 with 1757 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Peter Reid... on 11:33 - Oct 12 by itfcjoe |
I'm not necessarily saying they should be involved in the management of the football team, but there should be a way to find use of former England captains that love the club and are here nearly every home game. |
Could be that PC is more likely to respect advice from Peter Reid than from Butcher, Mills etc.
Hope KD retains a role and will, at some stage, manage Town. Would have preferred him to be appointed instead of PC. The more actively KD is engaged with first team matters the better. |  |
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