| Police retreating from Hungary yobbos 20:41 - Oct 12 with 4119 views | GlasgowBlue |
If this fixture was played in Hungary, the police would kick the utter sh1t out of our hoolies.
Is this good or bad? |  |
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| Police retreating from Hungary yobbos on 20:51 - Oct 12 with 3065 views | ZXBlue |
Looked like a lack of numbers to me. Combined, one suspects, with the knowledge that cameras will pick ou the perpetrators and they can lift them separately and more safely in due course. |  | | |
| Police retreating from Hungary yobbos on 21:14 - Oct 12 with 2956 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Police retreating from Hungary yobbos on 20:51 - Oct 12 by ZXBlue |
Looked like a lack of numbers to me. Combined, one suspects, with the knowledge that cameras will pick ou the perpetrators and they can lift them separately and more safely in due course. |
Plod looked a bit lightweight with the batons though. Eastern European police put a bit more effort into giving a good beating. | |
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| Police retreating from Hungary yobbos on 21:58 - Oct 12 with 2762 views | Plums |
| Police retreating from Hungary yobbos on 20:51 - Oct 12 by ZXBlue |
Looked like a lack of numbers to me. Combined, one suspects, with the knowledge that cameras will pick ou the perpetrators and they can lift them separately and more safely in due course. |
I suspect the fella in the brown jumper will be getting an early knock. |  |
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| Police retreating from Hungary yobbos on 22:00 - Oct 12 with 2746 views | Oldboy |
Total scum. Hopefully they will pick them up on their way out. A waste of good oxygen the lot of them. |  | | |
| Police retreating from Hungary yobbos on 22:06 - Oct 12 with 2715 views | ronnyd |
| Police retreating from Hungary yobbos on 22:00 - Oct 12 by Oldboy |
Total scum. Hopefully they will pick them up on their way out. A waste of good oxygen the lot of them. |
From match commentary it seems a Hungary supporter racially abused a steward and others kicked off when the police moved in to detain him. | | | |
| Police retreating from Hungary yobbos on 22:06 - Oct 12 with 2713 views | XYZ |
| Police retreating from Hungary yobbos on 21:14 - Oct 12 by GlasgowBlue |
Plod looked a bit lightweight with the batons though. Eastern European police put a bit more effort into giving a good beating. |
Johnson's following Hungary's lead in various other ways, so no doubt Patel will get a call in the morning. | | | |
| Police retreating from Hungary yobbos on 22:35 - Oct 12 with 2589 views | BlueBadger |
Someone should have told them that there was some women and black people in the Hungary mob. |  |
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| Police retreating from Hungary yobbos on 22:35 - Oct 12 with 2588 views | bluelagos |
| Police retreating from Hungary yobbos on 20:51 - Oct 12 by ZXBlue |
Looked like a lack of numbers to me. Combined, one suspects, with the knowledge that cameras will pick ou the perpetrators and they can lift them separately and more safely in due course. |
Sure the bloke in green jumper would expect a knock on the door normally. But they'll be on planes home tomorrow so police will need to act quickly if they are to arrest him. |  |
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| Police retreating from Hungary yobbos on 22:38 - Oct 12 with 2569 views | clive_baker |
| Police retreating from Hungary yobbos on 22:35 - Oct 12 by bluelagos |
Sure the bloke in green jumper would expect a knock on the door normally. But they'll be on planes home tomorrow so police will need to act quickly if they are to arrest him. |
I read earlier the c.1000 strong away support was wholly made up of UK based Hungarians. |  |
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| Police retreating from Hungary yobbos on 22:40 - Oct 12 with 2547 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Police retreating from Hungary yobbos on 22:35 - Oct 12 by BlueBadger |
Someone should have told them that there was some women and black people in the Hungary mob. |
As Meatloaf once said, You took the words right out of my mouth. | |
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| Police retreating from Hungary yobbos on 00:43 - Oct 13 with 2327 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Police retreating from Hungary yobbos on 22:06 - Oct 12 by XYZ |
Johnson's following Hungary's lead in various other ways, so no doubt Patel will get a call in the morning. |
Yeah, there are similarities even if Orban is a full blown fascist and we’re not quite there yet. They seem to be mutual admirers and you can see why. |  |
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| Police retreating from Hungary yobbos on 01:11 - Oct 13 with 2313 views | DinDjarin |
Was at the game and was a lot of Polish colours on display who seem to be getting a lot of the blame. |  | | |
| Police retreating from Hungary yobbos on 05:49 - Oct 13 with 2208 views | solomon |
| Police retreating from Hungary yobbos on 21:14 - Oct 12 by GlasgowBlue |
Plod looked a bit lightweight with the batons though. Eastern European police put a bit more effort into giving a good beating. |
Bit of a wake up call for the police and more importantly FIFA, these so called fans seem to be completely unfazed by the attendance of the police and are dedicated to disrupt at will.
Police should have had pepper spray to immobilise the trouble makers as batons are frankly useless when you’re being charged at by superior numbers. Was embarrassing to watch. |  | | |
| Police retreating from Hungary yobbos on 08:11 - Oct 13 with 1991 views | tivo |
| Police retreating from Hungary yobbos on 01:11 - Oct 13 by DinDjarin |
Was at the game and was a lot of Polish colours on display who seem to be getting a lot of the blame. |
Yeah you can see on some of the footage people with Polish gear on. Strange | | | |
| Police retreating from Hungary yobbos on 08:29 - Oct 13 with 1947 views | blu_dru |
| Police retreating from Hungary yobbos on 05:49 - Oct 13 by solomon |
Bit of a wake up call for the police and more importantly FIFA, these so called fans seem to be completely unfazed by the attendance of the police and are dedicated to disrupt at will.
Police should have had pepper spray to immobilise the trouble makers as batons are frankly useless when you’re being charged at by superior numbers. Was embarrassing to watch. |
Would they deploy pepper spray in an enclosed (ish) area full of people though? Every chance it goes in the eyes of innocents? I think they retreated because there was little room to effectively engage the aggressors (from the footage i saw) and would get them on the way out as others suggest? |  | | |
| Police retreating from Hungary yobbos on 09:01 - Oct 13 with 1850 views | Bluefish |
Is this the Lidl version of Hungry Hippos? |  |
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| Police retreating from Hungary yobbos on 09:25 - Oct 13 with 1806 views | Ryorry |
| Police retreating from Hungary yobbos on 22:35 - Oct 12 by bluelagos |
Sure the bloke in green jumper would expect a knock on the door normally. But they'll be on planes home tomorrow so police will need to act quickly if they are to arrest him. |
According to the BBCR5l comm, the Hungarian fans were all UK based owing to restrictions preventing overseas fans from travelling to Wemburley. Also said that the incident kicked off due to one of the Hungary fans racially abusing a steward, just to confirm someone else's comment.
I particularly hope brown coat gets ID'd & taken through courts. |  |
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| Police retreating from Hungary yobbos on 09:38 - Oct 13 with 1763 views | blu_dru |
| Police retreating from Hungary yobbos on 05:49 - Oct 13 by solomon |
Bit of a wake up call for the police and more importantly FIFA, these so called fans seem to be completely unfazed by the attendance of the police and are dedicated to disrupt at will.
Police should have had pepper spray to immobilise the trouble makers as batons are frankly useless when you’re being charged at by superior numbers. Was embarrassing to watch. |
Alternatively they could have given out Snickers bars.. | | | |
| Police retreating from Hungary yobbos on 10:06 - Oct 13 with 1687 views | textbackup |
Them coppers will be back to bullying 18 year olds on Saturday for drinking on a coach to an away day. |  |
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| Police retreating from Hungary yobbos on 10:13 - Oct 13 with 1662 views | glasso |
I'm always wary of saying Police should be given the power to go in all guns blazing, because it opens the door to the (albeit minor) 'bad apple' element of any force.
But I thought the Police in Germany had it right when I went there for a Dortmund game. They stood by and watched as people who were so pissed they had to be carried into the ground by their mates went by, but they were head to toe in riot gear and not up for a friendly chat.
They weren't wasting their time on peaceful people but you were in no doubt that if you kicked off in any way, you'd end up in a cell or a hospital bed. | | | |
| Police retreating from Hungary yobbos on 10:17 - Oct 13 with 1653 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Police retreating from Hungary yobbos on 08:29 - Oct 13 by blu_dru |
Would they deploy pepper spray in an enclosed (ish) area full of people though? Every chance it goes in the eyes of innocents? I think they retreated because there was little room to effectively engage the aggressors (from the footage i saw) and would get them on the way out as others suggest? |
Especially with recent criticism of being too heavy handed in certain situations.
The Police can’t win here, but the decision to ‘retreat’ is policy until back-up arrives. |  | | |
| Police retreating from Hungary yobbos on 11:54 - Oct 13 with 1496 views | blu_dru |
| Police retreating from Hungary yobbos on 10:13 - Oct 13 by glasso |
I'm always wary of saying Police should be given the power to go in all guns blazing, because it opens the door to the (albeit minor) 'bad apple' element of any force.
But I thought the Police in Germany had it right when I went there for a Dortmund game. They stood by and watched as people who were so pissed they had to be carried into the ground by their mates went by, but they were head to toe in riot gear and not up for a friendly chat.
They weren't wasting their time on peaceful people but you were in no doubt that if you kicked off in any way, you'd end up in a cell or a hospital bed. |
But then people moan that police are too scary and not approachable... they cant win whatever they do | | | |
| Police retreating from Hungary yobbos on 12:09 - Oct 13 with 1459 views | bluelagos |
| Police retreating from Hungary yobbos on 09:25 - Oct 13 by Ryorry |
According to the BBCR5l comm, the Hungarian fans were all UK based owing to restrictions preventing overseas fans from travelling to Wemburley. Also said that the incident kicked off due to one of the Hungary fans racially abusing a steward, just to confirm someone else's comment.
I particularly hope brown coat gets ID'd & taken through courts. |
If those guys are UK based then I'd expect in the coming weeks to hear of further arrests. Plenty of evidence of violence from various phones/tv pics and am sure the police will follow up, not least as some of their own were on the receiving end.
Not sure why people think there are travel restrictions given Hungary isn't a red list country. | |
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| Police retreating from Hungary yobbos on 12:23 - Oct 13 with 1417 views | Ryorry |
| Police retreating from Hungary yobbos on 12:09 - Oct 13 by bluelagos |
If those guys are UK based then I'd expect in the coming weeks to hear of further arrests. Plenty of evidence of violence from various phones/tv pics and am sure the police will follow up, not least as some of their own were on the receiving end.
Not sure why people think there are travel restrictions given Hungary isn't a red list country. |
That's what I thought re travel, but could only go by what R5l said.
Maybe the restrictions were FIFA's, penalty imposed for Hungarian fans' behaviour at their manor? | |
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| Police retreating from Hungary yobbos on 12:37 - Oct 13 with 1364 views | bluelagos |
| Police retreating from Hungary yobbos on 11:54 - Oct 13 by blu_dru |
But then people moan that police are too scary and not approachable... they cant win whatever they do |
There's defo a "damned if they do, damned if they don't" aspect to policing. But for me, collecting evidence and arresting/charging miscreants is preferable to simply wading in, cracking heads and inevitably cracking heads of some innocent bystanders.
Have seen the Carabinieri and CRS (Italian and French) up close and they are basically thugs in uniforms from what I saw. Appreciate some would like to see similar from our police, but I think they generally have a far more appropriate and proportionate way of policing.
I'd rather see thugs (Hungarian or British) prosecuted than whacked on the head. That way you get to (if appropriate) place banning orders on them too. Less innocent people caught up and appropriate punishments. | |
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