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R.I.P. Colin Powell 13:32 - Oct 18 with 2872 views

Sad news - one of the USA's good guys.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/18/us/politics/colin-powell-dead.html


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R.I.P. Colin Powell on 13:53 - Oct 18 with 2646 views

Dubtractor

Not sure I'd call him a good guy given his role in the Iraq war, but obviously sad he has died regardless.

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R.I.P. Colin Powell on 13:56 - Oct 18 with 2635 views

hype313

R.I.P. Colin Powell on 13:53 - Oct 18 by Dubtractor
Not sure I'd call him a good guy given his role in the Iraq war, but obviously sad he has died regardless.

Yeah, I think one of the good guys is a bit of a stretch....

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R.I.P. Colin Powell on 14:02 - Oct 18 with 2603 views

chicoazul

Good guy

What?

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R.I.P. Colin Powell on 14:04 - Oct 18 with 2593 views

Blueschev

I'm sure there are are hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis who may disagree with you.

R.I.P. Colin Powell on 14:48 - Oct 18 with 2536 views

Ryorry

R.I.P. Colin Powell on 13:56 - Oct 18 by hype313
Yeah, I think one of the good guys is a bit of a stretch....

Well, I happen to think redemption is possible & allowable for people decades later -

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/01/10/colin-powell-no-longer-republ


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R.I.P. Colin Powell on 14:55 - Oct 18 with 2523 views

hype313

R.I.P. Colin Powell on 14:48 - Oct 18 by Ryorry
Well, I happen to think redemption is possible & allowable for people decades later - https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/01/10/colin-powell-no-longer-republ

I think if I was a family member of a soldier that was killed, both US and Iraqi by the lies, then that wouldn't give me much comfort, to be frank.

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R.I.P. Colin Powell on 15:05 - Oct 18 with 2506 views

Ryorry

R.I.P. Colin Powell on 14:55 - Oct 18 by hype313
I think if I was a family member of a soldier that was killed, both US and Iraqi by the lies, then that wouldn't give me much comfort, to be frank.

I do understand, but am not going to judge anyone for one tragic error in a long & full life, plus

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/16/magazine/colin-powell-iraq-war.html

You have to sign up to read that, but only takes a min & is initially free.

Edit: You're only allowed a free read of 1 article.

[Phil Edit]Have removed text, not really fair on copyright owners to post full text like that[/Phil Edit]

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R.I.P. Colin Powell on 19:44 - Oct 18 with 2329 views

azuremerlangus

R.I.P. Colin Powell on 15:05 - Oct 18 by Ryorry

This post is far too brief…

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R.I.P. Colin Powell on 19:47 - Oct 18 with 2318 views

wkj

R.I.P. Colin Powell on 15:05 - Oct 18 by Ryorry

best. twitter. post. ever.

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R.I.P. Colin Powell on 19:54 - Oct 18 with 2307 views

Churchman

He always struck me as extremely able at any role he undertook. Ok it’s a narrow perspective, but when I think of some of the clowns of recent years and now, unlike the, he’s somebody I’d like to have met.

R.I.P. Colin Powell on 20:32 - Oct 18 with 2278 views

Ryorry

R.I.P. Colin Powell on 19:47 - Oct 18 by wkj
best. twitter. post. ever.

Edit - hadn't seen /Azuremerlangus' post when I replied ðŸ˜‚

I'll put myself up for the whoosh then

Still worth reading if people can find the time - fascinating stuff, & no surprise to read of the CIA manipulation.

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R.I.P. Colin Powell on 20:41 - Oct 18 with 2259 views

wkj

R.I.P. Colin Powell on 20:32 - Oct 18 by Ryorry
Edit - hadn't seen /Azuremerlangus' post when I replied ðŸ˜‚ I'll put myself up for the whoosh then Still worth reading if people can find the time - fascinating stuff, & no surprise to read of the CIA manipulation. [Post edited 18 Oct 2021 20:41]

No, I was just in awe of the idea that if everyone replied to your post that we might be able to break TWTD.

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R.I.P. Colin Powell on 20:45 - Oct 18 with 2251 views

Ryorry

R.I.P. Colin Powell on 20:41 - Oct 18 by wkj
No, I was just in awe of the idea that if everyone replied to your post that we might be able to break TWTD.

Might possibly have been better if you'd saved that attempt for 10pm tomorrow ...


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R.I.P. Colin Powell on 21:26 - Oct 18 with 2214 views

IpswichKnight

Related by marriage to him, wife’s aunt is his cousin.

R.I.P. Colin Powell on 23:08 - Oct 18 with 2134 views

DinDjarin

R.I.P. Colin Powell on 15:05 - Oct 18 by Ryorry

i got as far as "I do understand" and zoned out

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R.I.P. Colin Powell on 23:59 - Oct 18 with 2077 views

mutters

R.I.P. Colin Powell on 15:05 - Oct 18 by Ryorry

Some valid points, any chance you could expand a bit on them?

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R.I.P. Colin Powell on 00:29 - Oct 19 with 2063 views

Ryorry

R.I.P. Colin Powell on 23:59 - Oct 18 by mutters
Some valid points, any chance you could expand a bit on them?

My dear Mutters, you're a true TWTD treasure ðŸ˜‚

My apologies to anyone who's developed RSI as a result of scrolling this thread :(


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R.I.P. Colin Powell on 01:13 - Oct 19 with 2036 views

Eireannach_gorm

R.I.P. Colin Powell on 15:05 - Oct 18 by Ryorry

Can you give us an equally long rebuttal of this......

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/colin-powells-vietnam-fog/

R.I.P. Colin Powell on 08:04 - Oct 19 with 1950 views

ElderGrizzly

R.I.P. Colin Powell on 13:53 - Oct 18 by Dubtractor
Not sure I'd call him a good guy given his role in the Iraq war, but obviously sad he has died regardless.

John Simpson put it well.

Very sad to hear of Colin Powellâ€™s death. He was clever, able, deeply impressive & privately charming, but (as he accepted when I questioned his support at the UN for the Iraq invasion) he used those qualities for a desperately mistaken purpose.
— John Simpson (@JohnSimpsonNews) October 19, 2021

R.I.P. Colin Powell on 09:22 - Oct 19 with 1900 views

EdwardStone

One bit I really don't understand in the long screed.....

What exactly do you mean by "Meet Me in My Office, in Men's Underwear on 5" ??

R.I.P. Colin Powell on 09:24 - Oct 19 with 1895 views

Herbivore

Just to add you should remove that NY Times article. You can't copy and paste entire articles even if you cite the source, it's copyright infringement and can cause trouble for Phil. Using small quotes from copyrighted material is fine as it falls under fair use, a whole article (even whole paragraphs) is a different story.

Edit - I've flagged it as abuse, not because it's abusive, but so Phil and Gav are aware and can remove it if they're on before Ryorry.

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R.I.P. Colin Powell on 10:20 - Oct 19 with 1836 views

Ryorry

R.I.P. Colin Powell on 09:24 - Oct 19 by Herbivore

[Post edited 19 Oct 2021 9:26]

Oh right, genuinely wasn't aware of that, I see Phil has now edited it out so my apols to him, Gav, the NYT, & I'll remember for future. I'm sure anyone with RSI will be grateful too.


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R.I.P. Colin Powell on 10:22 - Oct 19 with 1828 views

Herbivore

R.I.P. Colin Powell on 10:20 - Oct 19 by Ryorry
Oh right, genuinely wasn't aware of that, I see Phil has now edited it out so my apols to him, Gav, the NYT, & I'll remember for future. I'm sure anyone with RSI will be grateful too.

Not everyone is aware to be fair. I have to be aware of copyright as part of my work so it's something I know a bit about. Much as it's unlikely the NYT lawyers are trawling third division soccer team fan sites, it's better to be safe than sorry.

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R.I.P. Colin Powell on 10:30 - Oct 19 with 1815 views

Ryorry

R.I.P. Colin Powell on 01:13 - Oct 19 by Eireannach_gorm
Can you give us an equally long rebuttal of this...... https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/colin-powells-vietnam-fog/

Given that's an article written over 20 years ago that you've dragged up on an R.I.P. thread re an autobiography written over 25 years ago about events over 50 years ago when Powell was a young officer in his 20s who is no longer around to defend himself (and witnesses, again poss incl. CIA, will also either no longer be around, or are in their 80s) - no.


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R.I.P. Colin Powell on 10:40 - Oct 19 with 1803 views

Eireannach_gorm

R.I.P. Colin Powell on 10:30 - Oct 19 by Ryorry
Given that's an article written over 20 years ago that you've dragged up on an R.I.P. thread re an autobiography written over 25 years ago about events over 50 years ago when Powell was a young officer in his 20s who is no longer around to defend himself (and witnesses, again poss incl. CIA, will also either no longer be around, or are in their 80s) - no.

I won't bother to cut & paste.

https://thecolgatemaroonnews.com/10337/news/questioning-colin-powell/

So not a great man but had a great career.

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