| Glad to see this still getting coverage, as Yorkshire Cricket Club on 20:25 - Nov 3 with 1509 views | Steve_M |
Ballance has made a statement which might be deemed a partial apology:
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| Glad to see this still getting coverage, as Yorkshire Cricket Club on 20:25 - Nov 3 with 1507 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Glad to see this still getting coverage, as Yorkshire Cricket Club on 19:21 - Nov 3 by pointofblue |
Play at Headingley but all profits have to go to charity? |
No. There is a prestige to hosting test matches and, should it be a sanction, they should have a penalty rather than simply loss of profits.
Either remove the test completely, all gate receipts go to charity (not just profits) or find some other sanction. |  |
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| Glad to see this still getting coverage, as Yorkshire Cricket Club on 20:40 - Nov 3 with 1475 views | pointofblue |
| Glad to see this still getting coverage, as Yorkshire Cricket Club on 20:25 - Nov 3 by Steve_M |
Ballance has made a statement which might be deemed a partial apology:
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“Rafa said things to me that were not acceptable”
Still trying to pass the buck then. |  |
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| Glad to see this still getting coverage, as Yorkshire Cricket Club on 21:28 - Nov 3 with 1434 views | Melford |
| Glad to see this still getting coverage, as Yorkshire Cricket Club on 19:18 - Nov 3 by Ryorry |
It gets even worse - according to the Torygraph - "Rafiq’s spokesperson has since pointed out that the law firm which oversaw the investigation - Squire Patton Boggs - was a former employer of Yorkshire chairman Roger Hutton. Rafiq had expected the investigation and panel’s report to be completed last Christmas."
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2021/11/03/former-england-star-gary-ballance
Whilst the absence of Tests at Headingley would certainly hit YCCC very badly, ie in the pocket, that penalty would also unfortunately hit hundreds of thousands of cricket-loving Yorkshire people very badly :( |
I've got tickets or the first day of the 3rd test v. NZ at Headingley!
This is pretty damning about Adil Rashid's YCCC experience from 2019, pretty much the same stuff alleged.
https://www.nakulpande.com/blog/yorkshire-dont-deserve-adil-rashid
Needs a proper clear-out at the top. |  |
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| Glad to see this still getting coverage, as Yorkshire Cricket Club on 23:56 - Nov 3 with 1354 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Glad to see this still getting coverage, as Yorkshire Cricket Club on 19:35 - Nov 3 by RamRob |
Probably, He's also his best mate, so likely Root could be seen as guilty by association or that he laughed along with it |
Wooooah! We can't name anyone else. Ballance has admitted that he used inappropriate racial slurs in the context of a genuine friendship which sound worse outside of that context.
All we can say is that until this is cleared up publicly ALL Senior Yorkshire players have a cloud of suspicion hanging over them. It's not fair to speculate as to which of them may have been involved. But Rafiq, hopefully, will testify before a Parliamentary Committee, with Parliamentary privilege which means he can put his side of the story in public without fear of being sued. | | | |
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| Glad to see this still getting coverage, as Yorkshire Cricket Club on 00:00 - Nov 4 with 1353 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
Fck sake!
Root had an explanation for that: everyone in the England team took the pish out of him for being baby faced and said that he couldn't grow a beard. So he wore a fancy dress long beard on a night out. It was the wrong colour and he placed it under his chin like Hashim Amla's beard, but it's an easy mistake to make.
We all have to be very careful not to name individuals: this is a live case and Phil and Gav have to take reasonable steps to ensure that nobody is libelled. [Post edited 4 Nov 2021 0:21]
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| Glad to see this still getting coverage, as Yorkshire Cricket Club on 00:11 - Nov 4 with 1350 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
Interestingly The Guardian are going with *A* player rather than *THE* player has admitted to using racist language in the past. Hinting that they believe others may be involved.
HOWEVER WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SPECULATE, NOR SHOULD WE, AS TO WHO THEY MIGHT BE, AS INNOCENT PEOPLE MAY BE SMEARED.
Hopefully Rafiq will appear before the Parliamentary Committee and name names. | | | |
| Glad to see this still getting coverage, as Yorkshire Cricket Club on 00:42 - Nov 4 with 1329 views | XYZ |
| Glad to see this still getting coverage, as Yorkshire Cricket Club on 00:00 - Nov 4 by ArnoldMoorhen |
Fck sake!
Root had an explanation for that: everyone in the England team took the pish out of him for being baby faced and said that he couldn't grow a beard. So he wore a fancy dress long beard on a night out. It was the wrong colour and he placed it under his chin like Hashim Amla's beard, but it's an easy mistake to make.
We all have to be very careful not to name individuals: this is a live case and Phil and Gav have to take reasonable steps to ensure that nobody is libelled. [Post edited 4 Nov 2021 0:21]
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I'm linking two long-ago published articles, not making allegations.
The first article was contemporaneous to the incident and not challenged at the time.
When was Root's denial published?
Root is 30, Azeem is 30, Ballance is 31.
Root needs to explain what he saw, heard and said. If nothing else, he's a key witness to the institutional racism that's been in YCCC for a long time.
I'd have thought he would want to clear it up before arriving in Australia. Not doing so could derail the Ashes early, from England's point of view. | | | |
| Glad to see this still getting coverage, as Yorkshire Cricket Club on 00:45 - Nov 4 with 1311 views | Melford |
| Glad to see this still getting coverage, as Yorkshire Cricket Club on 00:00 - Nov 4 by ArnoldMoorhen |
Fck sake!
Root had an explanation for that: everyone in the England team took the pish out of him for being baby faced and said that he couldn't grow a beard. So he wore a fancy dress long beard on a night out. It was the wrong colour and he placed it under his chin like Hashim Amla's beard, but it's an easy mistake to make.
We all have to be very careful not to name individuals: this is a live case and Phil and Gav have to take reasonable steps to ensure that nobody is libelled. [Post edited 4 Nov 2021 0:21]
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Agree, Root and Bairstow have barely been there for the last 5 years at least on central contracts, they were put on a list of YCCC players who were around when all this stuff happened as some kind of suspect. Now there's people probably going through Root's and Young Johnny Bairstow's social media to see if they can find anything racist. | |
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| Glad to see this still getting coverage, as Yorkshire Cricket Club on 00:49 - Nov 4 with 1306 views | XYZ |
| Glad to see this still getting coverage, as Yorkshire Cricket Club on 00:45 - Nov 4 by Melford |
Agree, Root and Bairstow have barely been there for the last 5 years at least on central contracts, they were put on a list of YCCC players who were around when all this stuff happened as some kind of suspect. Now there's people probably going through Root's and Young Johnny Bairstow's social media to see if they can find anything racist. |
"Now there's people probably going through Root's and Young Johnny Bairstow's social media to see if they can find anything racist."
And you'd see Root and YJB as victims if they found anything? | | | |
| Glad to see this still getting coverage, as Yorkshire Cricket Club on 03:24 - Nov 4 with 1254 views | Ryorry |
| Glad to see this still getting coverage, as Yorkshire Cricket Club on 20:25 - Nov 3 by Nthsuffolkblue |
No. There is a prestige to hosting test matches and, should it be a sanction, they should have a penalty rather than simply loss of profits.
Either remove the test completely, all gate receipts go to charity (not just profits) or find some other sanction. |
Right now I bet they'd bite your arm off for your 2nd option, which would also be fairer to Yorkshire people who can't travel further afield for other Tests. It's bad enough feeling thoroughly embarrassed by & ashamed of our county club over this.
I hope it also impresses upon all organisations of every kind that not only do they need to make clear to all staff from top to bottom that any racism, homophobia, sexism etc will never be tolerated & will always be appropriately dealt with, but that any attempts to diminish or cover it up will make things 100 x worse.
Sympathies to Rafiq, I hope he lets rip under parliamentary privilege & gets some satisfaction from that, but it's not going to get him back what should have been the best days of his pro cricketing life at Yorkshire. |  |
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| Glad to see this still getting coverage, as Yorkshire Cricket Club on 08:01 - Nov 4 with 1204 views | IpswichKnight |
| Glad to see this still getting coverage, as Yorkshire Cricket Club on 00:11 - Nov 4 by ArnoldMoorhen |
Interestingly The Guardian are going with *A* player rather than *THE* player has admitted to using racist language in the past. Hinting that they believe others may be involved.
HOWEVER WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SPECULATE, NOR SHOULD WE, AS TO WHO THEY MIGHT BE, AS INNOCENT PEOPLE MAY BE SMEARED.
Hopefully Rafiq will appear before the Parliamentary Committee and name names. |
There are others. The risible defence that Zimbo is offence while calling someone the P word isn’t should lead to the entire Yorkshire board resigning or face being told by the ECB that they have no confidence in them and no test matches/ODI/T20/100 games will be sanctioned at Headingley, Northern Rockets franchise should be moved to Durham and YCCC should start county championship with a points deduction for bringing the game into disrepute. I would double any points deduction if YCCC bring in Colin Graves as chairman he was chairman when most of it happened and did nothing then. | | | |
| Glad to see this still getting coverage, as Yorkshire Cricket Club on 08:03 - Nov 4 with 1201 views | RamRob |
| Glad to see this still getting coverage, as Yorkshire Cricket Club on 23:56 - Nov 3 by ArnoldMoorhen |
Wooooah! We can't name anyone else. Ballance has admitted that he used inappropriate racial slurs in the context of a genuine friendship which sound worse outside of that context.
All we can say is that until this is cleared up publicly ALL Senior Yorkshire players have a cloud of suspicion hanging over them. It's not fair to speculate as to which of them may have been involved. But Rafiq, hopefully, will testify before a Parliamentary Committee, with Parliamentary privilege which means he can put his side of the story in public without fear of being sued. |
I wasn't suggesting Root was involved, I was replying to a post speculating that the identity of the player was leaked due to people thinking it was Root. I was just saying that people COULD make the assumptions in my post due to the friendship of those two players being well known, and is possibly why YCCC tried to sweep it under the rug. |  |
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| Glad to see this still getting coverage, as Yorkshire Cricket Club on 09:01 - Nov 4 with 1182 views | XYZ |
Up to a dozen players involved ...
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| Glad to see this still getting coverage, as Yorkshire Cricket Club on 09:11 - Nov 4 with 1167 views | Radlett_blue |
| Glad to see this still getting coverage, as Yorkshire Cricket Club on 08:03 - Nov 4 by RamRob |
I wasn't suggesting Root was involved, I was replying to a post speculating that the identity of the player was leaked due to people thinking it was Root. I was just saying that people COULD make the assumptions in my post due to the friendship of those two players being well known, and is possibly why YCCC tried to sweep it under the rug. |
Naturally, the media will be desperate for more names to be named but as George Dobell said this morning, the issue is about how Yorkshire CCC have handled the whole issue, basically by trying to sweep it under the carpet.
No doubt there were a few ringleaders who behaved badly, but the point isn't to single out some individuals who have behaved badly. |  |
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| Glad to see this still getting coverage, as Yorkshire Cricket Club on 09:33 - Nov 4 with 1151 views | XYZ |
| Glad to see this still getting coverage, as Yorkshire Cricket Club on 09:11 - Nov 4 by Radlett_blue |
Naturally, the media will be desperate for more names to be named but as George Dobell said this morning, the issue is about how Yorkshire CCC have handled the whole issue, basically by trying to sweep it under the carpet.
No doubt there were a few ringleaders who behaved badly, but the point isn't to single out some individuals who have behaved badly. |
That may be the case, however if the ECB don't grab this nettle then this trial will be conducted by the australian press.
I believe the "test-only" players leave for Australia today. Guess what questions Root will get at his first press conference? | | | |
| Glad to see this still getting coverage, as Yorkshire Cricket Club on 10:09 - Nov 4 with 1128 views | strikalite |
You do know that "within circles" it is perfectly acceptable to use both the "P" word and the "N" word, Balance was being called a "Zimbo" in return too, what we would see as unacceptable is often accepted by young guys in certain settings... |  | | |
| Glad to see this still getting coverage, as Yorkshire Cricket Club on 18:54 - Nov 4 with 960 views | DropCliffsNotBombs |
Good. |  | | |
| Glad to see this still getting coverage, as Yorkshire Cricket Club on 19:01 - Nov 4 with 957 views | Ryorry |
Well, it's a shame for ordinary local cricket fans of course, but in a way I'm glad the ECB have hit that hard & come down on YCCC like a ton of bricks, necessary in the circumstances.
Not sure what constitutional rules the club has, but if they have any power, I hope YCCC members will make their feelings very clear & boot that entire Board out. | |
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(edit: btw I don't mean in those circles where all concerned are black and genuinely accept it from each other as in friendship). 