How it works: Levelling Up. on 12:35 - Nov 18 with 1093 views | footers | If you take away people's money and access to services it makes them work harder. Wonder if the same could be said of MPs and Lords? One to ponder. | |
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How it works: Levelling Up. on 12:49 - Nov 18 with 1038 views | Illinoisblue | Leveling Up is really just Lying Continuously. | |
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How it works: Levelling Up. on 12:52 - Nov 18 with 1030 views | Cotty | I love the defence they're coming out with, "the new plan will deliver benefits sooner". Well yes, that's because you're going for another cheap fix. "Sorry your 5* 11 course meal isn't going to be cooked any longer, but not to worry, the McDonalds replacement will be here within seconds" | | | |
How it works: Levelling Up. on 12:54 - Nov 18 with 1021 views | BlueBadger |
How it works: Levelling Up. on 12:52 - Nov 18 by Cotty | I love the defence they're coming out with, "the new plan will deliver benefits sooner". Well yes, that's because you're going for another cheap fix. "Sorry your 5* 11 course meal isn't going to be cooked any longer, but not to worry, the McDonalds replacement will be here within seconds" |
It's got shades of Paul Jewell claiming to be on a long term build but signing 98 pensioners and loanees hasn't it? | |
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How it works: Levelling Up. on 12:54 - Nov 18 with 1020 views | Blueschev | I blame the lack of opposition. | | | |
How it works: Levelling Up. on 12:55 - Nov 18 with 1009 views | Cotty |
How it works: Levelling Up. on 12:54 - Nov 18 by Blueschev | I blame the lack of opposition. |
I blame the people who refuse to vote for the opposition. [Post edited 18 Nov 2021 13:05]
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How it works: Levelling Up. on 12:56 - Nov 18 with 1016 views | itfcjoe | Fascinating spot … from Opinium’s Chris Curtis, who reckons the canceled section of the HS2 eastern leg would have run through a load of red wall seats held by Tory MPs, without benefitting them directly. The original plan would have seen new track through Rother Valley, Ashfield, Bolsover, North East Derbyshire, and Penistone and Stocksbridge, all 2019 Tory gains, without serving any of those areas. The Yorkshire Post’s Caitlin Doherty also noticed this a couple of days ago and tweeted: “A proportion of Red Wall voters will be pretty chuffed to hear about the Eastern Leg of HS2 not going ahead.” | |
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How it works: Levelling Up. on 12:59 - Nov 18 with 988 views | BlueBadger |
How it works: Levelling Up. on 12:54 - Nov 18 by Blueschev | I blame the lack of opposition. |
What exactly about the openly bigoted, corrupt and incompetent Boris Johnson appeals to you? | |
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How it works: Levelling Up. on 13:05 - Nov 18 with 959 views | Freddies_Ears |
How it works: Levelling Up. on 12:52 - Nov 18 by Cotty | I love the defence they're coming out with, "the new plan will deliver benefits sooner". Well yes, that's because you're going for another cheap fix. "Sorry your 5* 11 course meal isn't going to be cooked any longer, but not to worry, the McDonalds replacement will be here within seconds" |
Whilst I welcome the electrification (long overdue) of the Sheffield - London and trans-Pennine lines, the sting in today's announcement is that any of the "upgrading" works that "replace" HS2 in the North will require years of disruption to existing services. Get those rail replacement buses ready, boys. | | | |
How it works: Levelling Up. on 13:11 - Nov 18 with 930 views | Steve_M |
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How it works: Levelling Up. on 13:29 - Nov 18 with 865 views | Swansea_Blue | Remember when earlier this year they used HS2 as justification to cut Transport for the North’s 2021/2022 budget by 40%? Arf. https://www.railway-technology.com/news/tfn-budget-cuts-receive-criticism-uk-rai If anyone believes this levelling up nonsense is a genuine attempt to redress inequalities across the UK, they're 2 sarnies short of a picnic. A cross cross-party public accounts committee enquiry found the previous Towns Fund to be politically biased, favouring Tory councils. The Levelling Up and Community renewal funds recently announced have been similarly criticised. Meanwhile places like Cornwall, West Wales and the Valleys and ?South Yorkshire are losing access to £100s of millions between them that they would have got through EU Structural Funds. I think Wales alone lost out on over £300m this year. | |
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How it works: Levelling Up. on 13:37 - Nov 18 with 842 views | BlueBadger |
How it works: Levelling Up. on 12:59 - Nov 18 by BlueBadger | What exactly about the openly bigoted, corrupt and incompetent Boris Johnson appeals to you? |
Same question to DaveU - what appeals most? The bigotry, the corruption or the incompetence? | |
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How it works: Levelling Up. on 13:38 - Nov 18 with 835 views | Blueschev |
How it works: Levelling Up. on 12:59 - Nov 18 by BlueBadger | What exactly about the openly bigoted, corrupt and incompetent Boris Johnson appeals to you? |
They're all as bad as each other. | | | |
How it works: Levelling Up. on 13:42 - Nov 18 with 824 views | Swansea_Blue |
How it works: Levelling Up. on 13:38 - Nov 18 by Blueschev | They're all as bad as each other. |
I'm not sure if you're being serious or not, but they're obviously not. Certainly there are some bad apples on both sides, but this current government seems to be the most anti-democratic, corrupt and useless we've ever had. | |
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How it works: Levelling Up. on 13:42 - Nov 18 with 824 views | BlueBadger |
How it works: Levelling Up. on 13:38 - Nov 18 by Blueschev | They're all as bad as each other. |
Except that they're not. | |
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How it works: Levelling Up. on 13:42 - Nov 18 with 809 views | chicoazul |
How it works: Levelling Up. on 12:55 - Nov 18 by Cotty | I blame the people who refuse to vote for the opposition. [Post edited 18 Nov 2021 13:05]
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Lol at the idea things would be any different whatsoever. I’m actually glad there was no Starmer in power when covid hit as we wouldn’t have had universal furlough at all. The Sun would have moaned about socialism and he would have immediately folded. | |
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How it works: Levelling Up. on 13:44 - Nov 18 with 808 views | BlueNomad | The "Red Wall" will evaporate next election. | | | |
How it works: Levelling Up. on 13:46 - Nov 18 with 789 views | You_Bloo_Right |
How it works: Levelling Up. on 13:42 - Nov 18 by chicoazul | Lol at the idea things would be any different whatsoever. I’m actually glad there was no Starmer in power when covid hit as we wouldn’t have had universal furlough at all. The Sun would have moaned about socialism and he would have immediately folded. |
Then again perhaps we would, they wouldn't and neither would he. | |
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How it works: Levelling Up. on 13:47 - Nov 18 with 776 views | BlueBadger |
How it works: Levelling Up. on 13:42 - Nov 18 by chicoazul | Lol at the idea things would be any different whatsoever. I’m actually glad there was no Starmer in power when covid hit as we wouldn’t have had universal furlough at all. The Sun would have moaned about socialism and he would have immediately folded. |
This is possibly the most elaborate 'yes, but Labour' yet. | |
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How it works: Levelling Up. on 13:51 - Nov 18 with 760 views | BlueNomad |
How it works: Levelling Up. on 13:38 - Nov 18 by Blueschev | They're all as bad as each other. |
That shows a complete lack of insight. This miserable crew have been in power eleven years so there is nothing to compare them with. That means we have to consider this lot on their own "merits", of which there are none. It isn't a case of being left or right, it is a question of competence and as little sleaze and corruption as possible. They are incompetent, sleazy and corrupt. Then throw in their lack of care and compassion to the less fortunate and they are forever damned. | | | |
How it works: Levelling Up. on 13:59 - Nov 18 with 730 views | Guthrum |
How it works: Levelling Up. on 13:44 - Nov 18 by BlueNomad | The "Red Wall" will evaporate next election. |
If the Scottish Labour experience* is anything to go by, then it will dissipate in the sense of being a unified bloc supporting one particular party. There is likely to be proportionate split between the major parties, rather than a wholesale swing back to Labour. After all, a lot of the reasons why the Red Wall existed - industrialisation/mining, plus anger at Thatcher's dismantling of it - no longer hold, or are now so far in the past that it was not in the lifetimes (certainly political consciousness) of a large proportion of the electorate. Moreover, Labour is nowadays perceived (or portrayed by the media) more as a party of London liberal elites than the grass-roots Working Class organisation of the decades up to the 1980s. * Scottish Labour seats overwhelmingly went to the SNP in 2015, followed the next election by a reduction for the latter, but with seats going to the Conservatives and LibDems, as well as some back to Labour. Thus destroying that vital bloc of MPs north of the Border which provided a base for winning elections. | |
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How it works: Levelling Up. on 14:13 - Nov 18 with 699 views | BlueNomad |
How it works: Levelling Up. on 13:59 - Nov 18 by Guthrum | If the Scottish Labour experience* is anything to go by, then it will dissipate in the sense of being a unified bloc supporting one particular party. There is likely to be proportionate split between the major parties, rather than a wholesale swing back to Labour. After all, a lot of the reasons why the Red Wall existed - industrialisation/mining, plus anger at Thatcher's dismantling of it - no longer hold, or are now so far in the past that it was not in the lifetimes (certainly political consciousness) of a large proportion of the electorate. Moreover, Labour is nowadays perceived (or portrayed by the media) more as a party of London liberal elites than the grass-roots Working Class organisation of the decades up to the 1980s. * Scottish Labour seats overwhelmingly went to the SNP in 2015, followed the next election by a reduction for the latter, but with seats going to the Conservatives and LibDems, as well as some back to Labour. Thus destroying that vital bloc of MPs north of the Border which provided a base for winning elections. |
I didn't specifically say they will all go back to Labour but I doubt very much the Tories will have anything like an 80 seat majority. As for Scotland - well I think there is more chance of it leaving the Union than falling en masse back to Labour, which means it will always be difficult for them to take Westminster. I suspect we might have a hung parliament next time. | | | |
How it works: Levelling Up. on 14:31 - Nov 18 with 661 views | Guthrum |
How it works: Levelling Up. on 14:13 - Nov 18 by BlueNomad | I didn't specifically say they will all go back to Labour but I doubt very much the Tories will have anything like an 80 seat majority. As for Scotland - well I think there is more chance of it leaving the Union than falling en masse back to Labour, which means it will always be difficult for them to take Westminster. I suspect we might have a hung parliament next time. |
Agree on that, altho I'm not sure it will go as far as a hung Parliament this time. Depends a lot upon when the election is, who is the leader and what's happened in the interim. Think Johnson's "vaccination boost" has already pretty much dissipated. | |
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How it works: Levelling Up. on 15:28 - Nov 18 with 613 views | Darth_Koont |
How it works: Levelling Up. on 12:54 - Nov 18 by Blueschev | I blame the lack of opposition. |
Indeed. Johnson’s “levelling up” is certainly cosmetic but Starmer is effectively proposing “competent” managerial tinkering. Both are playing the political game but both are still massively insufficient. | |
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How it works: Levelling Up. on 15:38 - Nov 18 with 587 views | Cotty |
How it works: Levelling Up. on 15:28 - Nov 18 by Darth_Koont | Indeed. Johnson’s “levelling up” is certainly cosmetic but Starmer is effectively proposing “competent” managerial tinkering. Both are playing the political game but both are still massively insufficient. |
I blame the people on the left amplifying the right wing media trope that everything is the fault of the Labour party. | | | |
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