| Outers - Well done 07:08 - Dec 5 with 4279 views | pennblue |
You got your way, time to stick your neck out and say who you want instead.
Come on TimothyYeo, BlueBoyd, ITFCJoe, BlueBadger et al.... who do you want now?
who would you go for? We need to get out of this negative spiral.
Negative comments DO make a difference, there is a reason media is tightly controlled in some countries and the reason is, people are influenced by what they read in the media (mainstream, local or social).
On that note, can I just say well done to Phil for keeping his Journalism clean and not resorting to low level tactics employed by other Journo's working in the ITFC space. |  |
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| Outers - Well done on 09:23 - Dec 5 with 927 views | sotd78 |
| Outers - Well done on 09:11 - Dec 5 by Mullet |
When was there any sort of protest? Do you honestly believe the fact we would be 2nd if we didn't give away leads so often this season, that we can't name a consistent XI or put together 3 wins despite people insisting we'd just go on a run and smash our way into the playoffs, didn't have a bigger effect?
Why are you more concerned for the fortunes of Cook than the club? We're 11th in Div 3 after a huge spend. You're talking like an Arsenal fan here. |
I'm old enough to remember the Cobbolds modeling the town on Arsenal.... right through to proper white sleeves.... yep, I can truthfully say that apart from Keane I've never called for a manager to be out. The fans don't see all the picture. So perhaps there's been a load of analysis behind the scenes. But as for naming a team... we did .... from day one Cook has played 4231. His unwavering belief in that has probably cost him. His luck in finding capable players to play that style may also have cost him. We collected players like Monopoly.... buy that, buy that etc. We ended up with too many 10s and too many left backs and ironically not enough strikers.
This project needed a season and a bit.... the noisy squawking that does travel the Pond may well have been heard. |  |
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| Outers - Well done on 09:25 - Dec 5 with 922 views | Funge |
| Outers - Well done on 09:08 - Dec 5 by sotd78 |
Agree. We collected a bunch of available players. Cook was given 20 games or so to shuffle then into a team. Not long enough. Sadly the impatient bedsheet brigade and their noisy squawking have done for him. |
There were a few boos at the Crewe game, and a few yesterday.
That's it.
Not exactly in the vein of Blackpool boycotting their home games for 3 seasons to get rid of the Oystons, is it? |  | | |
| Outers - Well done on 09:28 - Dec 5 with 907 views | braveblue |
The only way to keep our current fan base happy is to get someone in who plays old fashioned 442, takes us to the top of the league in one transfer window, makes us top scorers with a solid defence and has long established ties with the club. Anyone else will be hounded out after a couple of defeats. | | | |
| Outers - Well done on 09:28 - Dec 5 with 905 views | pointofblue |
Cook was given a standing ovation when walking onto the pitch against Crewe (and I presume by the majority of supporters yesterday too?) and yet it’s the fans who ultimately decided he should be sacked, not the performances on the pitch? | |
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| Outers - Well done on 09:31 - Dec 5 with 881 views | Mullet |
| Outers - Well done on 09:23 - Dec 5 by sotd78 |
I'm old enough to remember the Cobbolds modeling the town on Arsenal.... right through to proper white sleeves.... yep, I can truthfully say that apart from Keane I've never called for a manager to be out. The fans don't see all the picture. So perhaps there's been a load of analysis behind the scenes. But as for naming a team... we did .... from day one Cook has played 4231. His unwavering belief in that has probably cost him. His luck in finding capable players to play that style may also have cost him. We collected players like Monopoly.... buy that, buy that etc. We ended up with too many 10s and too many left backs and ironically not enough strikers.
This project needed a season and a bit.... the noisy squawking that does travel the Pond may well have been heard. |
The idea that fans got Cook sacked over his own performance is laughable nonsense. Even if you were happy with the mess you detail there, being in this division again, churning the squad again, spending even more money may have been against what the owners wanted. It doesn't sound like you hold any account with the people who made this decision at all, even though they're the ones who disagree with you too.
The biggest problem is this "project" didn't have a season and a bit. Cook failed last season. He failed this season. He knows it, and he started lashing out at fans. There is no logical defence of him, and we've seen that from allcomers this past 24 hours. |  |
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| Outers - Well done on 09:37 - Dec 5 with 843 views | Herbivore |
| Outers - Well done on 09:28 - Dec 5 by braveblue |
The only way to keep our current fan base happy is to get someone in who plays old fashioned 442, takes us to the top of the league in one transfer window, makes us top scorers with a solid defence and has long established ties with the club. Anyone else will be hounded out after a couple of defeats. |
We'd have been happy if we were close to the top 6 and not completely out of the automatic promotion race, so you're talking a load of old guff there chum. Nobody has said we should be pissing the league but we should be a lot better than being midtable and well adrift of the promotion race. |  |
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| Outers - Well done on 09:49 - Dec 5 with 802 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Good to see everything continues to be the fans fault
EDIT: oh, and given the setup we are moving to is a head coach rather than manager model, Liam Manning looks to be the outstanding candidate, if he can be persuaded. But really it’s hard to envisage a anyone doing worse than Cook has, which is a real shame given his success elsewhere [Post edited 5 Dec 2021 9:58]
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| Outers - Well done on 09:51 - Dec 5 with 794 views | Stewart27 |
| Outers - Well done on 09:28 - Dec 5 by braveblue |
The only way to keep our current fan base happy is to get someone in who plays old fashioned 442, takes us to the top of the league in one transfer window, makes us top scorers with a solid defence and has long established ties with the club. Anyone else will be hounded out after a couple of defeats. |
Wow
You do know where we are in the football pyramid, right?
They have league tables on the internet and all sorts.
If you’ve got a little extra time then check out our cup progress at Portman Road this year. | | | |
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| Outers - Well done on 09:56 - Dec 5 with 780 views | You_Bloo_Right |
| Outers - Well done on 08:51 - Dec 5 by Mullet |
How dare you take away my newfound Sultan of Sway title. |
You can still be the King of Clout or maybe the Duke of Juice. |  |
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| Outers - Well done on 10:03 - Dec 5 with 760 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Outers - Well done on 07:33 - Dec 5 by pennblue |
A lot of what you say, I do agree with.
But the reality is, no manager is likely to walk in the door and turn us into a team that performs at a Man City / Liverpool level of consistency. It has taken years of investment and coaching to get these clubs to perform at that level.
Paul Cook has not been given that time, and there are people (me included) that feel that is not the right way to treat an individual.
But if you are happy with us being a Watford style club, then you have got what you want. I thought we were better than that. |
Oh FFS. Cook was in charge here for 44 games and won 13 of them, a win percentage of 29.5%. Watford have removed their last 4 managers after less games; the last to be in the post for longer was Javi Gracia who won 25 of his 66 games (37.88 win percentage)
It’s not remotely close to a Watford model, 90% of clubs in the league would have removed a manager with Cooks record | |
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| Outers - Well done on 10:05 - Dec 5 with 747 views | TheBlueGnu |
Not sure what you mean by "well done", and "low level tactics by other journos".
Basically, Cook's reign has been a shambles. Wycombe away aside, the performances and results have been rubbish. (in Portsmouth and Doncaster we found ourselves against woeful sides at those times). We find ourselves in the same part of the table as teams who were non-league recently, or not even born until recently. We've failed to beat 4 division 2 teams at home, we've lost to two lots of Under 21's at home, and we've not strung together a run of more than 2 wins on the spin. He's used 3 keepers, we play 1 up front in HOME games, and he's brought in about 5 number 10's. He suggests that many fans have no patience - sorry but we do, we've put up with 15 years of rubbish - still attending games and believing it will get better. and shelling out about £7000 in the process and that's only the home games. If 15 years of patience is not enough then I don't know what is.
In answer to your question, I want to see Anna Karen (Olive in On The Buses) installed as the new manager as soon as possible. | |
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| Outers - Well done on 10:05 - Dec 5 with 746 views | I_LOVE_GOLLOB |
Have you stopped blabbing yet | |
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| Outers - Well done on 12:05 - Dec 5 with 687 views | wkj |
| Outers - Well done on 07:52 - Dec 5 by WeWereZombies |
We won't get Jack Ross, although Hibs are faltering a bit at present he is doing a reasonable job there and you can see that a lot of progress for that club is possible with him in charge. They have a decent chance of playing in Europe next season, we can't compete with that at the moment. |
I can dream - please tell me I'm being more realistic than those who thought Eddie Howe would come |  |
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| Outers - Well done on 12:10 - Dec 5 with 681 views | WeWereZombies |
| Outers - Well done on 12:05 - Dec 5 by wkj |
I can dream - please tell me I'm being more realistic than those who thought Eddie Howe would come |
Well, yes, more realistic...and making a better choice too. |  |
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| Outers - Well done on 12:14 - Dec 5 with 666 views | braveblue |
| Outers - Well done on 09:37 - Dec 5 by Herbivore |
We'd have been happy if we were close to the top 6 and not completely out of the automatic promotion race, so you're talking a load of old guff there chum. Nobody has said we should be pissing the league but we should be a lot better than being midtable and well adrift of the promotion race. |
Just read the hysterics a few weeks ago when we had lost 1 in 15 and we lost a game. Instant Cook out. I just think expectations were far too high , chum | | | |
| Outers - Well done on 12:17 - Dec 5 with 659 views | Herbivore |
| Outers - Well done on 12:14 - Dec 5 by braveblue |
Just read the hysterics a few weeks ago when we had lost 1 in 15 and we lost a game. Instant Cook out. I just think expectations were far too high , chum |
I'd say expectations from many fans were far too low if anything, based on how many tears are being shed for a manager who by any measure did a poor job here. | |
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| Outers - Well done on 12:29 - Dec 5 with 639 views | Trequartista |
I'd like to see a foreign manager with a good record abroad who i've never heard of do well. Is that a stupid answer to want someone i've never heard of? No, because lots of managers have come in from abroad who most fans have never heard of, some have done well, some not so well.
So it's a stupid question. [Post edited 5 Dec 2021 12:30]
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| Outers - Well done on 12:54 - Dec 5 with 613 views | BlueBadger |
| Outers - Well done on 12:14 - Dec 5 by braveblue |
Just read the hysterics a few weeks ago when we had lost 1 in 15 and we lost a game. Instant Cook out. I just think expectations were far too high , chum |
Mate, you spent the whole of the McCarthy era crying about people accepting mediocrity because we were generally upper midd-table in the Championship and now you're happy with mid table third division? |  |
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| Outers - Well done on 12:57 - Dec 5 with 593 views | BlueBadger |
| Outers - Well done on 07:19 - Dec 5 by pennblue |
So who is your next manager? |
One who isn't called Paul. | |
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| Outers - Well done on 14:30 - Dec 5 with 508 views | galacticoblue |
| Outers - Well done on 08:55 - Dec 5 by fergalsharkey |
Best squad? Who says that?
Oh I see you believe everything you read.
We clearly are not the best squad, I would change a multitude of our players for other current league 1 players. |
Well I don’t believe what I read on this original post if that helps answer your question.
I have eyes, individually the quality of player is there for all to see (maybe not you), mr cook doesn’t know how to motivate players or have adaptable ways of playing to counter when we are struggling. He also did not bring in the right coaches.
Play to the players strengths not make them play stuff they are not comfortable doing. | | | |
| Outers - Well done on 14:34 - Dec 5 with 496 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
I am so glad that our opinions are so influential and look forward to the Labour landslide in the region at the next election since this board is so heavily left wing as well.
As for the next manager, since we are so influential, I will happily take Tony Mowbray. Amazing what our opinions can achieve in getting him here. Perhaps I should have shouted louder when I wanted him appointed as Burley's replacement too. |  |
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| Outers - Well done on 17:01 - Dec 5 with 422 views | Kropotkin123 |
| Outers - Well done on 07:27 - Dec 5 by Sawtrich |
Sorry but I don't understand the logic that if you wanted Cook out that you should be able to name a replacement. I certainly couldn't name all the managers in the Premiership and Championship but I'm pretty sure the vast majority could've done a lot better with the budget Cook was given. It's entirely possible that someone I've never heard of comes in and does a better job because Cook was failing badly. I wish him the best for the future, it wasn't working here. |
Yeah, agreed. It is nonsense. Our paid representatives should be able to find a suitable replacement. |  |
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| Outers - Well done on 17:24 - Dec 5 with 389 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
I'm an outer and I am glad Cook has gone.
To answer the OP I would consider having a short-term manager for the remainder of the season, then see where we are next May.
I would sound out Warnock and Hodgson to see whether they are available. Either of them, in my view, would get this squad playing to their full potential and would organise tactics, team selection and game management in a way Cook seems incapable of doing. |  |
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