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The Texaco Cup 11:08 - Dec 7 with 2048 viewsCotty

As a child of the 80s, this was not really on my radar, but I noticed that we won it one year, beating Norwich 4-2 on aggregate. Where on the tin pot trophy scale was this competition? Can somebody put it on the scale of today's competitions? I can only imagine both legs of the final were keenly competed...
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The Texaco Cup on 11:26 - Dec 7 with 1999 viewsPJH

It was above Pizza Cup level that's for sure.

Not quite at European Cup (as it was then) level but beating them home and away in the final made it mean more than it probably actually did.

That season of 1972/73 was when SBR started producing very good and great teams.

There were 29700 at PR for the first leg and 35798 in Norfolk with an estimated 10000 of us in blue and white.
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The Texaco Cup on 11:46 - Dec 7 with 1957 viewsCotty

The Texaco Cup on 11:26 - Dec 7 by PJH

It was above Pizza Cup level that's for sure.

Not quite at European Cup (as it was then) level but beating them home and away in the final made it mean more than it probably actually did.

That season of 1972/73 was when SBR started producing very good and great teams.

There were 29700 at PR for the first leg and 35798 in Norfolk with an estimated 10000 of us in blue and white.


Lovely stuff, thanks.
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The Texaco Cup on 12:01 - Dec 7 with 1928 viewsTexaco73

Doesn't matter how tinpot the trophy might have been.

We beat Norwich in the final and denied them a few squeezes of 3in1 oil on their trophy cabinet.
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The Texaco Cup on 12:05 - Dec 7 with 1919 viewsGeoffSentence

On a par with the Anglo-italian Cup?

Involved English and Scottish teams that year. Previous years had Irish and Welsh teams too.

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The Texaco Cup on 12:15 - Dec 7 with 1897 viewsWestover

I remember it well not that I saw any of the two matches but the result came on the radio saying Ipswich had won and I was in the back seat of my car doing what most young men did in the back of a car 😱👩‍❤️‍💋‍👩
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The Texaco Cup on 12:18 - Dec 7 with 1888 viewsKeno

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The Texaco Cup on 12:20 - Dec 7 with 1876 viewsGeoffSentence

The Texaco Cup on 12:15 - Dec 7 by Westover

I remember it well not that I saw any of the two matches but the result came on the radio saying Ipswich had won and I was in the back seat of my car doing what most young men did in the back of a car 😱👩‍❤️‍💋‍👩


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The Texaco Cup on 12:30 - Dec 7 with 1848 viewssotd78

Not so many European games back then. Only one team in the European Cup; only one in the Cup Winners Cup and three/four in the Fairs Cup/ later UEFA Cup.
So things like the Texaco mattered - especially when we beat the neighbours.
I was at both games - and we did indeed take probably ten thousand to Carrot Road. In those days standing and cash entry often made such games easy to attend.

The Pizza Trophy could be as important if we managed to exclude the Premiership "collect all the players" Teams. Up to now I have steadfastly ignored it!

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The Texaco Cup on 12:43 - Dec 7 with 1824 viewsMeadowlark

I went to both legs of the final.
It certainly felt like a big thing at the time!
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The Texaco Cup on 13:04 - Dec 7 with 1795 viewsThe_Major

That night, we won a multinational Cup at Carrow Road, and there was much rejoicing.

Before the sun rose the next day, an even greater event happened, making it the finest twelve hours in the history of the town of Ipswich.

Bascally, I was born.

What?
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The Texaco Cup on 13:31 - Dec 7 with 1722 viewsBonneNIL

The Texaco Cup on 11:26 - Dec 7 by PJH

It was above Pizza Cup level that's for sure.

Not quite at European Cup (as it was then) level but beating them home and away in the final made it mean more than it probably actually did.

That season of 1972/73 was when SBR started producing very good and great teams.

There were 29700 at PR for the first leg and 35798 in Norfolk with an estimated 10000 of us in blue and white.


I have to point out a mistake in that statement. The EFL Cup is a direct descendent of the Texaco Cup. The original Texaco format was for UK/Ireland clubs not in Europe, this then evolved into the Anglo-Scottish Cup (teams from Ireland forced out due to the political climate) which ran until 1981, rebranded as the Football League Group Cup and Football League Trophy until 1983, and was again branded as the Associate Members Cup until 1992 where it became the Football League Trophy. Over the years memberships have mixed from top-flight teams, non-English clubs, second division sides, youth sides, and so on. It has always changed which is why the bellyaching about top-tier academies being allowed to play in it isn't really that justified, especially as any club even in the 3rd/4th tier worth their salt should be able to beat them with their starting 11s.

Winners are...

1970—71 Wolverhampton Wanderers
1971—72 Derby County
1972—73 Ipswich Town
1973—74 Newcastle United
1974—75 Newcastle United
1975—76 Middlesbrough
1976—77 Nottingham Forest
1977—78 Bristol City
1978—79 Burnley
1979—80 St Mirren
1980—81 Chesterfield
1981-82 Grimsby Town
1982-83 Millwall
1983—84: AFC Bournemouth
1984—85: Wigan Athletic
1985—86: Bristol City
1986—87: Mansfield Town
1987—88: Wolverhampton Wanderers
1988—89: Bolton Wanderers
1989—90: Tranmere Rovers
1990—91: Birmingham City
1991—92: Stoke City
1992—93: Port Vale
1993—94: Swansea City
1994—95: Birmingham City
1995—96: Rotherham United
1996—97: Carlisle United
1997—98: Grimsby Town
1998—99: Wigan Athletic
1999—00: Stoke City
2000—01: Port Vale
2001—02: Blackpool
2002—03: Bristol City
2003—04: Blackpool
2004—05: Wrexham
2005—06: Swansea City
2006—07: Doncaster Rovers
2007—08: Milton Keynes Dons
2008—09: Luton Town
2009—10: Southampton
2010—11: Carlisle United
2011—12: Chesterfield
2012—13: Crewe Alexandra
2013—14: Peterborough United
2014—15: Bristol City
2015—16: Barnsley
2016—17: Coventry City
2017—18: Lincoln City
2018—19: Portsmouth
2019—20: Salford City
2020—21: Sunderland

It has the distinction of being both Bobby Robsons and Brian Clough's first trophy.
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The Texaco Cup on 13:56 - Dec 7 with 1674 viewsRadlett_blue

The Texaco Cup on 12:05 - Dec 7 by GeoffSentence

On a par with the Anglo-italian Cup?

Involved English and Scottish teams that year. Previous years had Irish and Welsh teams too.


Indeed, the Texaco Cup was below the League Cup but above the Watney Cup pre-season jolly. It was similar to the Anglo Scottish Cup, which Forest won as Clough was beginning to assemble a decent side. As Town hadn't won much or looked like winning much, it seemed good at the time. We played our full first team & took it pretty seriously. Crowds were generally a little down on league games, but playing Norwich in the final created huge local interest.

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The Texaco Cup on 14:00 - Dec 7 with 1660 viewsGeoffSentence

The Texaco Cup on 13:31 - Dec 7 by BonneNIL

I have to point out a mistake in that statement. The EFL Cup is a direct descendent of the Texaco Cup. The original Texaco format was for UK/Ireland clubs not in Europe, this then evolved into the Anglo-Scottish Cup (teams from Ireland forced out due to the political climate) which ran until 1981, rebranded as the Football League Group Cup and Football League Trophy until 1983, and was again branded as the Associate Members Cup until 1992 where it became the Football League Trophy. Over the years memberships have mixed from top-flight teams, non-English clubs, second division sides, youth sides, and so on. It has always changed which is why the bellyaching about top-tier academies being allowed to play in it isn't really that justified, especially as any club even in the 3rd/4th tier worth their salt should be able to beat them with their starting 11s.

Winners are...

1970—71 Wolverhampton Wanderers
1971—72 Derby County
1972—73 Ipswich Town
1973—74 Newcastle United
1974—75 Newcastle United
1975—76 Middlesbrough
1976—77 Nottingham Forest
1977—78 Bristol City
1978—79 Burnley
1979—80 St Mirren
1980—81 Chesterfield
1981-82 Grimsby Town
1982-83 Millwall
1983—84: AFC Bournemouth
1984—85: Wigan Athletic
1985—86: Bristol City
1986—87: Mansfield Town
1987—88: Wolverhampton Wanderers
1988—89: Bolton Wanderers
1989—90: Tranmere Rovers
1990—91: Birmingham City
1991—92: Stoke City
1992—93: Port Vale
1993—94: Swansea City
1994—95: Birmingham City
1995—96: Rotherham United
1996—97: Carlisle United
1997—98: Grimsby Town
1998—99: Wigan Athletic
1999—00: Stoke City
2000—01: Port Vale
2001—02: Blackpool
2002—03: Bristol City
2003—04: Blackpool
2004—05: Wrexham
2005—06: Swansea City
2006—07: Doncaster Rovers
2007—08: Milton Keynes Dons
2008—09: Luton Town
2009—10: Southampton
2010—11: Carlisle United
2011—12: Chesterfield
2012—13: Crewe Alexandra
2013—14: Peterborough United
2014—15: Bristol City
2015—16: Barnsley
2016—17: Coventry City
2017—18: Lincoln City
2018—19: Portsmouth
2019—20: Salford City
2020—21: Sunderland

It has the distinction of being both Bobby Robsons and Brian Clough's first trophy.
[Post edited 7 Dec 2021 13:32]


You mean 'The EFL Tropy'

The EFL Cup is The League Cup

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The Texaco Cup on 14:02 - Dec 7 with 1655 viewssotd78

The Texaco Cup on 13:31 - Dec 7 by BonneNIL

I have to point out a mistake in that statement. The EFL Cup is a direct descendent of the Texaco Cup. The original Texaco format was for UK/Ireland clubs not in Europe, this then evolved into the Anglo-Scottish Cup (teams from Ireland forced out due to the political climate) which ran until 1981, rebranded as the Football League Group Cup and Football League Trophy until 1983, and was again branded as the Associate Members Cup until 1992 where it became the Football League Trophy. Over the years memberships have mixed from top-flight teams, non-English clubs, second division sides, youth sides, and so on. It has always changed which is why the bellyaching about top-tier academies being allowed to play in it isn't really that justified, especially as any club even in the 3rd/4th tier worth their salt should be able to beat them with their starting 11s.

Winners are...

1970—71 Wolverhampton Wanderers
1971—72 Derby County
1972—73 Ipswich Town
1973—74 Newcastle United
1974—75 Newcastle United
1975—76 Middlesbrough
1976—77 Nottingham Forest
1977—78 Bristol City
1978—79 Burnley
1979—80 St Mirren
1980—81 Chesterfield
1981-82 Grimsby Town
1982-83 Millwall
1983—84: AFC Bournemouth
1984—85: Wigan Athletic
1985—86: Bristol City
1986—87: Mansfield Town
1987—88: Wolverhampton Wanderers
1988—89: Bolton Wanderers
1989—90: Tranmere Rovers
1990—91: Birmingham City
1991—92: Stoke City
1992—93: Port Vale
1993—94: Swansea City
1994—95: Birmingham City
1995—96: Rotherham United
1996—97: Carlisle United
1997—98: Grimsby Town
1998—99: Wigan Athletic
1999—00: Stoke City
2000—01: Port Vale
2001—02: Blackpool
2002—03: Bristol City
2003—04: Blackpool
2004—05: Wrexham
2005—06: Swansea City
2006—07: Doncaster Rovers
2007—08: Milton Keynes Dons
2008—09: Luton Town
2009—10: Southampton
2010—11: Carlisle United
2011—12: Chesterfield
2012—13: Crewe Alexandra
2013—14: Peterborough United
2014—15: Bristol City
2015—16: Barnsley
2016—17: Coventry City
2017—18: Lincoln City
2018—19: Portsmouth
2019—20: Salford City
2020—21: Sunderland

It has the distinction of being both Bobby Robsons and Brian Clough's first trophy.
[Post edited 7 Dec 2021 13:32]


Good history.... nevertheless allowing the u21 premier clubs to take part just reinforces their ability to hoard players.

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The Texaco Cup on 17:37 - Dec 7 with 1578 viewsColin_Viljoen

In those days you could pretty much get in most areas of the ground, so we decided that the river end would be fun, after a few bits of fun, they got us out of that end & we walked from one end of the ground to the other on the pitch & into the then away end. After the game the whole of the town end invaded the pitch & celebrated our cup win.
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The Texaco Cup on 17:41 - Dec 7 with 1564 viewsElephantintheRoom

It was hugely important as it gave Town experience of home and away ties - and the crowds were enormous.

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The Texaco Cup on 17:49 - Dec 7 with 1530 viewsjaykay

also there was the willhire cup , which we won in 1978 and 1979. was a east anglian cup compertion. between ipswich, norwich, colchester and cambridge.

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The Texaco Cup on 19:34 - Dec 7 with 1447 viewsFightingEssex

The Texaco Cup on 14:02 - Dec 7 by sotd78

Good history.... nevertheless allowing the u21 premier clubs to take part just reinforces their ability to hoard players.


U21's and U23's are just rebranded names for the reserves and third teams by modern football nonsense. They have rules about how many young players are fielded, but as proven a few years back when Alan Lee was a regular in our "U23's" he was there and scoring for fun. Norwood is doing the same this season despite Ashton giving him the boot. It's the reserves.

It's no different to when we have entered into Suffolk cup competitions with our reserves, it's better to have your 2nd and third strings play competitive games against teams who want to win then it is to have them play other disinterested second and third string sides turning them into training matches.

As stated, we should be beating their 2nd strings anyway, the fact we have had 3 goes at it now and not even made the semis is more embarrassing than the competition itself. We have no right to look down on this cup, we're likely going to be in it next season too and Gamechanger would enter our reserves in it if we were a top flight side too.

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The Texaco Cup on 22:20 - Dec 7 with 1358 viewsdominiciawful

The Texaco Cup on 13:56 - Dec 7 by Radlett_blue

Indeed, the Texaco Cup was below the League Cup but above the Watney Cup pre-season jolly. It was similar to the Anglo Scottish Cup, which Forest won as Clough was beginning to assemble a decent side. As Town hadn't won much or looked like winning much, it seemed good at the time. We played our full first team & took it pretty seriously. Crowds were generally a little down on league games, but playing Norwich in the final created huge local interest.


From Wikipedia:

"Nottingham Forest's victory in the 1976-77 final over Orient was their first trophy under the management of Brian Clough, who later stated that he took the tournament seriously (when many other clubs did not) and considered it the springboard for Forest's future success, as they would go on to win a First Division title and two European Cups over the following 3 seasons. Clough had taken a similar stance on the competition's predecessor, the Texaco Cup, and won it with Derby County in 1972, the same year he guided them to their first league title."

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The Texaco Cup on 23:59 - Dec 7 with 1282 viewsDJR

The Texaco Cup on 17:37 - Dec 7 by Colin_Viljoen

In those days you could pretty much get in most areas of the ground, so we decided that the river end would be fun, after a few bits of fun, they got us out of that end & we walked from one end of the ground to the other on the pitch & into the then away end. After the game the whole of the town end invaded the pitch & celebrated our cup win.


I went to both legs, and remember running round the Carrow Road pitch at the end.
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