| If you were looking to buy a property now, somewhere on the outskirts of London 15:50 - Dec 9 with 1653 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
where would you be looking... in terms of up and coming, not too far out, but still reasonably priced/places you can get more for your money?
Looking to buy in the new year, just starting to do a bit of research where. I suppose something has to give re size of property v location (nearness to Central or easy transport in, but also a nice area), it's just finding that sweet spot.
The overground seems huge these days, maybe there's a place on that I've overlooked? |  |
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| If you were looking to buy a property now, somewhere on the outskirts of London on 15:58 - Dec 9 with 1615 views | SomethingBlue |
The areas just beyond Blackheath — like Lee and Hither Green — still haven't quite gone nuts price-wise while being superbly located, though maybe you're looking further out than that. Looked round a few very nice places round there earlier this year and there's some surprising value to be found, but haven't yet decided whether to do it, I'm very set in my north London ways.
Edit — a friend moved to Beckenham recently and that seems very decent, good stuff going on & a huge drop-off in price, not sure I'd do that yet myself but it may be worth considering. [Post edited 9 Dec 2021 15:59]
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| If you were looking to buy a property now, somewhere on the outskirts of London on 16:01 - Dec 9 with 1587 views | itfcjoe |
Best bet is probably somewhere around 2009.... |  |
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| If you were looking to buy a property now, somewhere on the outskirts of London on 16:02 - Dec 9 with 1574 views | textbackup |
Ipswich |  |
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| If you were looking to buy a property now, somewhere on the outskirts of London on 16:02 - Dec 9 with 1566 views | WeWereZombies |
Gatwick?
I've heard that parking is no problem there... |  |
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| If you were looking to buy a property now, somewhere on the outskirts of London on 16:03 - Dec 9 with 1558 views | Mookamoo |
Child 1 is looking at Walthamstow. Currently renting in Clapton. |  | | |
| If you were looking to buy a property now, somewhere on the outskirts of London on 16:06 - Dec 9 with 1534 views | clive_baker |
Anything centralish Zone 1 - 3 the price tend to be nuts, then you find that when you get out into the nice, leafy towns of Kent and Surrey they're also nuts, because they're lovely and green, but close to London and well connected.
So what you sometimes find is somewhere between the 2 might get overlooked in terms of true value for money (Z4 / Z5). Especially if you need to commute to central London, if you factor that cost in you're probably worse off paying national rail prices + property price in Epsom or Ashtead vs. being in a zone.
SE still represents the best value IMO although it's all relative of course. My old stomping ground. Beckenham? It's not cheap mind.
EDIT: Sutton if you're looking at SW. Zone 4, quick and easy into central, lots of amenities. You can get to Wimbledon / Balham etc in no time at all but you find the price tags are nothing like those places. Again, I wouldn't say it's cheap but it's all relative. And it's a bit rough around the edges in parts, but when you consider what's around it I've always thought it's probably a good punt. Plus you can watch Town at Sutton United when we're relegated. [Post edited 9 Dec 2021 16:09]
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| If you were looking to buy a property now, somewhere on the outskirts of London on 16:06 - Dec 9 with 1526 views | StokieBlue |
| If you were looking to buy a property now, somewhere on the outskirts of London on 16:03 - Dec 9 by Mookamoo |
Child 1 is looking at Walthamstow. Currently renting in Clapton. |
Walthamstow is nice, there is an excellent micro-brewery scene around there and walks around the wetlands. Well connected into central London as well on the Victoria line.
Lots of good stuff in Clapton as well nowadays.
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| If you were looking to buy a property now, somewhere on the outskirts of London on 16:11 - Dec 9 with 1478 views | Hackneyblueboy |
| If you were looking to buy a property now, somewhere on the outskirts of London on 16:06 - Dec 9 by StokieBlue |
Walthamstow is nice, there is an excellent micro-brewery scene around there and walks around the wetlands. Well connected into central London as well on the Victoria line.
Lots of good stuff in Clapton as well nowadays.
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Walthamstow is not cheap these days though. A decent flat there is going to cost in excess of £450k I would imagine and starter houses are 700k+. L
I'd probably look slightly further out towards highams park or Chingford that way but not sure if you'd call it nice. Pretty easy commute into Liverpool Street though and access to green space.
South East London is probably a good place to start as you say. Forest Hill or slightly further out is well connected into London Bridge and on the overground. | | | |
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| If you were looking to buy a property now, somewhere on the outskirts of London on 16:17 - Dec 9 with 1449 views | footers |
Catford is a cultural mecca. |  |
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| If you were looking to buy a property now, somewhere on the outskirts of London on 16:20 - Dec 9 with 1412 views | StokieBlue |
| If you were looking to buy a property now, somewhere on the outskirts of London on 16:11 - Dec 9 by Hackneyblueboy |
Walthamstow is not cheap these days though. A decent flat there is going to cost in excess of £450k I would imagine and starter houses are 700k+. L
I'd probably look slightly further out towards highams park or Chingford that way but not sure if you'd call it nice. Pretty easy commute into Liverpool Street though and access to green space.
South East London is probably a good place to start as you say. Forest Hill or slightly further out is well connected into London Bridge and on the overground. |
Agreed it's not cheap, I was more responding to Mook saying his child 1 was looking in that area.
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| If you were looking to buy a property now, somewhere on the outskirts of London on 16:25 - Dec 9 with 1384 views | Churchman |
Bromley and Orpington stations are about 20 mins from central London. Lots of good areas to live too.. |  | | |
| If you were looking to buy a property now, somewhere on the outskirts of London on 16:26 - Dec 9 with 1385 views | hype313 |
Penge. |  |
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| If you were looking to buy a property now, somewhere on the outskirts of London on 17:01 - Dec 9 with 1302 views | Superfrans |
| If you were looking to buy a property now, somewhere on the outskirts of London on 16:11 - Dec 9 by Hackneyblueboy |
Walthamstow is not cheap these days though. A decent flat there is going to cost in excess of £450k I would imagine and starter houses are 700k+. L
I'd probably look slightly further out towards highams park or Chingford that way but not sure if you'd call it nice. Pretty easy commute into Liverpool Street though and access to green space.
South East London is probably a good place to start as you say. Forest Hill or slightly further out is well connected into London Bridge and on the overground. |
Yes, "Awesomestow" is great, but pricey these days.
If anyone is looking for somewhere east-ish, I'd look to Leytonstone or Forest Gate as areas which already on the up. If I was reviewing the crystal ball, I'd suggest Manor Park, Maryland as places which will start rising soon. All of Forest Gate, Manor Park and Maryland are on the Queen Elizabeth/Crossrail line which will transform those areas over the next 10/15 years.
Alternatively, in the next five years there will be decent bargains to be had more centrally, as businesses move out of the centre post-COVID, leaving loads of previously commercial premises empty. How affordable they will be is difficult to know straight away though. |  |
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| If you were looking to buy a property now, somewhere on the outskirts of London on 17:07 - Dec 9 with 1282 views | StokieBlue |
| If you were looking to buy a property now, somewhere on the outskirts of London on 17:01 - Dec 9 by Superfrans |
Yes, "Awesomestow" is great, but pricey these days.
If anyone is looking for somewhere east-ish, I'd look to Leytonstone or Forest Gate as areas which already on the up. If I was reviewing the crystal ball, I'd suggest Manor Park, Maryland as places which will start rising soon. All of Forest Gate, Manor Park and Maryland are on the Queen Elizabeth/Crossrail line which will transform those areas over the next 10/15 years.
Alternatively, in the next five years there will be decent bargains to be had more centrally, as businesses move out of the centre post-COVID, leaving loads of previously commercial premises empty. How affordable they will be is difficult to know straight away though. |
I'll be convinced of that business migration out of the centre when I see it. There are still lots of companies building large offices in the centre (look at the massive Google place for instance). It certainly could happen, I just wouldn't bank on it 100%.
There will certainly be flexible working but not many businesses are going to go for full WFH - more likely to be 3 and 2 in many cases I would think.
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| If you were looking to buy a property now, somewhere on the outskirts of London on 17:12 - Dec 9 with 1257 views | PrideOfTheEast |
| If you were looking to buy a property now, somewhere on the outskirts of London on 15:58 - Dec 9 by SomethingBlue |
The areas just beyond Blackheath — like Lee and Hither Green — still haven't quite gone nuts price-wise while being superbly located, though maybe you're looking further out than that. Looked round a few very nice places round there earlier this year and there's some surprising value to be found, but haven't yet decided whether to do it, I'm very set in my north London ways.
Edit — a friend moved to Beckenham recently and that seems very decent, good stuff going on & a huge drop-off in price, not sure I'd do that yet myself but it may be worth considering. [Post edited 9 Dec 2021 15:59]
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Agree. We live in Hither Green/Lee and even in the 5 or so years since we moved here it's improved significantly. Especially if you have or want a young family - 10 mins to London Bridge, lovely parks, pubs, restaurants, good schools etc. | | | |
| If you were looking to buy a property now, somewhere on the outskirts of London on 17:15 - Dec 9 with 1242 views | DLS |
I lived in Bromley/Beckenham/Chislehurst back in 2008 - 2012. Generally really nice places to be. Beckenham Jnc is 20 mins into Victoria. Bromley is less due to the fast train and can also go into Blackfriars. Like any of the Greater London areas it doesn't take going far to find yourself in a less than appealing area so do your research. | | | |
| If you were looking to buy a property now, somewhere on the outskirts of London on 17:25 - Dec 9 with 1199 views | giant_stow |
| If you were looking to buy a property now, somewhere on the outskirts of London on 17:01 - Dec 9 by Superfrans |
Yes, "Awesomestow" is great, but pricey these days.
If anyone is looking for somewhere east-ish, I'd look to Leytonstone or Forest Gate as areas which already on the up. If I was reviewing the crystal ball, I'd suggest Manor Park, Maryland as places which will start rising soon. All of Forest Gate, Manor Park and Maryland are on the Queen Elizabeth/Crossrail line which will transform those areas over the next 10/15 years.
Alternatively, in the next five years there will be decent bargains to be had more centrally, as businesses move out of the centre post-COVID, leaving loads of previously commercial premises empty. How affordable they will be is difficult to know straight away though. |
You're right the stow has got pricey, but still relatively cheap compared to near by areas. Blackhorse road is seeing lots of development (and youth) so you might still get something cheapish there.
Tottenham might be worth a go (not tottenham hale), or left field suggestion: Epping. Not sure what the prices are saying there though. Failing that Dolly, I'd consider the various market towns just outside London - if its on a train, those can be quicker into town than far-flung stops on the tube.
Edit: btw, Walthamstow is great for getting out to East Anglia! max 10 mins and I'm on the bottom of the M11, so it's a good move for a horsy fan. [Post edited 9 Dec 2021 17:37]
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| If you were looking to buy a property now, somewhere on the outskirts of London on 18:26 - Dec 9 with 1089 views | factual_blue |
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| If you were looking to buy a property now, somewhere on the outskirts of London on 06:42 - Dec 10 with 899 views | solomon |
| If you were looking to buy a property now, somewhere on the outskirts of London on 17:07 - Dec 9 by StokieBlue |
I'll be convinced of that business migration out of the centre when I see it. There are still lots of companies building large offices in the centre (look at the massive Google place for instance). It certainly could happen, I just wouldn't bank on it 100%.
There will certainly be flexible working but not many businesses are going to go for full WFH - more likely to be 3 and 2 in many cases I would think.
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Plus the new apple location in Battersea, lots of redevelopment and refurbishment is starting to kick off again. There’s a great many who miss the office atmosphere and social life that’s connected to it in London, not an awful lot will change. |  | | |
| If you were looking to buy a property now, somewhere on the outskirts of London on 08:53 - Dec 10 with 794 views | EastLondonBlue |
| If you were looking to buy a property now, somewhere on the outskirts of London on 17:25 - Dec 9 by giant_stow |
You're right the stow has got pricey, but still relatively cheap compared to near by areas. Blackhorse road is seeing lots of development (and youth) so you might still get something cheapish there.
Tottenham might be worth a go (not tottenham hale), or left field suggestion: Epping. Not sure what the prices are saying there though. Failing that Dolly, I'd consider the various market towns just outside London - if its on a train, those can be quicker into town than far-flung stops on the tube.
Edit: btw, Walthamstow is great for getting out to East Anglia! max 10 mins and I'm on the bottom of the M11, so it's a good move for a horsy fan. [Post edited 9 Dec 2021 17:37]
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Pocket living are just starting a development strictly for
First time buyers in central Walthamstow...
https://www.pocketliving.com/projects/development/32 |  | | |
| If you were looking to buy a property now, somewhere on the outskirts of London on 09:03 - Dec 10 with 770 views | ElephantintheRoom |
Somewhere near Manchester? Or the godforsaken bits on the outskirts of Brum where HS2 will have a parkway?
The theory behind 'up and coming' is that its going to become trendy - or will be getting transport links to the capital. Given the commitment to electric cars that will make commuting unviable - rail, which is currently locked somewhere in the victorain era might become viable - albeit at a price.
Waitrose makes a big difference too if you know in advance where they are going to plant their overpriced groceries for the middle classes somewhere unpleasant - Saxmundham for example.
One of my neices who works as an overpaid lawyer in the city recently sold her first home in Ilford bought for £400,000 and sold for considerably more five years later and moved to the outskirts of Edinburgh - still working for the same firm in the City of London. | |
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| If you were looking to buy a property now, somewhere on the outskirts of London on 09:32 - Dec 10 with 729 views | MattinLondon |
My ex-boss nearly brought a flat in Islington for £90k back in the mid-90s. Her then partner didn’t want to move to London and so they stayed in Brentwood. Years later she was single and looking to move to London and the same flat was worth £700k. I think around fifteen years later but allowing for inflation that’s some increase. |  | | |
| If you were looking to buy a property now, somewhere on the outskirts of London on 09:45 - Dec 10 with 706 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
"Eligibility criteria: live or work in Waltham Forest and earn under £60,000" | |
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