| McGreal - who’d be ok if he got the job? (n/t) 18:07 - Dec 11 with 3125 views | Keno |
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| McGreal - who’d be ok if he got the job? (n/t) on 18:59 - Dec 11 with 917 views | wkj |
| McGreal - who’d be ok if he got the job? (n/t) on 18:51 - Dec 11 by Churchman |
He’s managed a while, seems fairly astute. Compared to Harris, is he a worse option? At least he has played at a higher level and knows what that looks like.
Edit: GB got the job with zippo experience. He did ok, not least due to the reasons I gave in the earlier post [Post edited 11 Dec 2021 18:53]
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Im still struggling to see why Harris is seen as a castaway - I can appreciate he's not the manager that everyone dreams of - but results-wise - he's kind of what we need. JMG has proven he's a decent manager, but I don't think he's right for us at this time. |  |
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| McGreal - who’d be ok if he got the job? (n/t) on 18:59 - Dec 11 with 917 views | WicklowBlue |
I'd be interested to see what he does with a run of games if there is no heir apparent lined up. Can't judge the guy after 2 games, but certainly a point away at Wigan is an improvement on Barrow. No matter who comes in it will take a while to reset and establish a new pattern of play.
Honestly don't care who takes over as long as they get a tune and identity out of the squad. |  | | |
| McGreal - who’d be ok if he got the job? (n/t) on 19:09 - Dec 11 with 902 views | jayessess |
| McGreal - who’d be ok if he got the job? (n/t) on 18:56 - Dec 11 by Churchman |
GBs didn’t even make meagre. Neither did Robson’s and Alf didn’t have one.
I’m only throwing this in the air against what we’ve had and the dregs being proposed. Devils advocate, so don’t be too hard on me. |
I think there's a case for lots of inexperienced managers on that basis. A judgement call that gets made on interview, plans, rather than a couple of games.
McGreal's got a worse CV than any of the people we're regarding as "the dregs", the bosses would need to be given a really really good reason to appoint him. A stronger reason than a 1-1 draw at Wigan. |  |
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| McGreal - who’d be ok if he got the job? (n/t) on 19:17 - Dec 11 with 892 views | PioneerBlue |
Based on cv probably not but the signs were promising today, not laying down and being flattened is a start after Charlton and coming back from 1 nil down is an additional plus. I’m a bit more relaxed to see how next games play out this week, will we really have an appointment in by Sunderland? Looks like the players played for badge, supporters, themselves and JMcG v Wigan.
A lot must depend on who the board like and whether he’s available. The odds suggest we’ve not started talking seriously to in-job managers at this stage and why make noise there until we need to if JMcG is holding things. |  |
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| McGreal - who’d be ok if he got the job? (n/t) on 19:26 - Dec 11 with 888 views | cinnamonITFC |
| McGreal - who’d be ok if he got the job? (n/t) on 18:09 - Dec 11 by J2BLUE |
It's not going to happen. To sack Cook and appoint McGreal would be insane. Evans era level stuff. It's just not going to happen. |
Im seeing a lot of managers people don’t want as being a labelled an ‘evans era’ decision.
Except actually I think Evans’ manager choices were generally quite well received when announced (and appeared sensible decisions - except maybe lambert who was more debatable. It’s only in hindsight that they were considered poor choices. That’s more the team/manager rather than Evans’ manager choices.
He had many flaws of course, but let’s not scapegoat Evans for everything. | | | |
| McGreal - who’d be ok if he got the job? (n/t) on 19:34 - Dec 11 with 865 views | Keno |
| McGreal - who’d be ok if he got the job? (n/t) on 19:26 - Dec 11 by cinnamonITFC |
Im seeing a lot of managers people don’t want as being a labelled an ‘evans era’ decision.
Except actually I think Evans’ manager choices were generally quite well received when announced (and appeared sensible decisions - except maybe lambert who was more debatable. It’s only in hindsight that they were considered poor choices. That’s more the team/manager rather than Evans’ manager choices.
He had many flaws of course, but let’s not scapegoat Evans for everything. |
In their appointment I didn't rate Keene, was dead against Jewell, accepted Mick with reservation, did NOT was Lambert and wouldn't have picked Hurst
Other than that Evans appointments were ok | |
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| McGreal - who’d be ok if he got the job? (n/t) on 20:51 - Dec 11 with 820 views | timothyeo |
No, and it would be damning indictment of Ashton and the owners if he got the job. | | | |
| McGreal - who’d be ok if he got the job? (n/t) on 20:54 - Dec 11 with 817 views | ketton_itfc |
Well I’d rather have JM than almost all the guys linked. |  | | |
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| McGreal - who’d be ok if he got the job? (n/t) on 20:55 - Dec 11 with 813 views | positivity |
| McGreal - who’d be ok if he got the job? (n/t) on 20:51 - Dec 11 by timothyeo |
No, and it would be damning indictment of Ashton and the owners if he got the job. |
who do you want, timmy? | |
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| McGreal - who’d be ok if he got the job? (n/t) on 21:04 - Dec 11 with 802 views | Churchman |
| McGreal - who’d be ok if he got the job? (n/t) on 18:59 - Dec 11 by wkj |
Im still struggling to see why Harris is seen as a castaway - I can appreciate he's not the manager that everyone dreams of - but results-wise - he's kind of what we need. JMG has proven he's a decent manager, but I don't think he's right for us at this time. |
Not castaway. If appointed he gets my support. It’s more about best fit amongst known possibilities. JM isn’t far away based on that ridiculously wide and unknown parameter..
It’s all speculation based on minimal information. |  | | |
| McGreal - who’d be ok if he got the job? (n/t) on 21:17 - Dec 11 with 786 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| McGreal - who’d be ok if he got the job? (n/t) on 19:34 - Dec 11 by Keno |
In their appointment I didn't rate Keene, was dead against Jewell, accepted Mick with reservation, did NOT was Lambert and wouldn't have picked Hurst
Other than that Evans appointments were ok |
Do you happen to also not want pretty much all of the list of managers mentioned in the threads on here too? |  |
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| McGreal - who’d be ok if he got the job? (n/t) on 21:21 - Dec 11 with 776 views | itfcjoe |
I don’t think it would be a particularly inspiring choice but I like the guy so wouldn’t be devastated |  |
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| McGreal - who’d be ok if he got the job? (n/t) on 21:32 - Dec 11 with 742 views | BLUEBEAT |
The only people who have openly admitted interest in the position so far are Neil Harris and Shefki Kuqi, I believe?
Pretty sure McGreal has a better management record than either of them? |  |
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| McGreal - who’d be ok if he got the job? (n/t) on 21:38 - Dec 11 with 737 views | wkj |
| McGreal - who’d be ok if he got the job? (n/t) on 21:32 - Dec 11 by BLUEBEAT |
The only people who have openly admitted interest in the position so far are Neil Harris and Shefki Kuqi, I believe?
Pretty sure McGreal has a better management record than either of them? |
Harris has had a decent management record. Beat 3 premier league sides in the FA cup in one season and got promoted to the EFL C relatively early on.
McGreal overperformed at Col U. | |
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| McGreal - who’d be ok if he got the job? (n/t) on 22:06 - Dec 11 with 717 views | Keno |
| McGreal - who’d be ok if he got the job? (n/t) on 21:17 - Dec 11 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Do you happen to also not want pretty much all of the list of managers mentioned in the threads on here too? |
I’d be happy with Mowbray, Manning or Colin
Not fussed about most of the others | |
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| McGreal - who’d be ok if he got the job? (n/t) on 22:07 - Dec 11 with 716 views | Keno |
| McGreal - who’d be ok if he got the job? (n/t) on 21:21 - Dec 11 by itfcjoe |
I don’t think it would be a particularly inspiring choice but I like the guy so wouldn’t be devastated |
Agree with that | |
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| McGreal - who’d be ok if he got the job? (n/t) on 22:14 - Dec 11 with 711 views | N2_Blue |
| McGreal - who’d be ok if he got the job? (n/t) on 21:32 - Dec 11 by BLUEBEAT |
The only people who have openly admitted interest in the position so far are Neil Harris and Shefki Kuqi, I believe?
Pretty sure McGreal has a better management record than either of them? |
How does McGreal has a better management record than Neil Harris? To answer the question for you...it isn't!
Harris isn't my choice and I'd be underwhelemed but his management record is not that bad . Quite respectable and I can see why he is at least being looked at. |  |
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| McGreal - who’d be ok if he got the job? (n/t) on 09:39 - Dec 12 with 625 views | Texaco73 |
All the talk of management records and basing opinion of whether candidates for the role on that, hasn't really worked for us a previously.
I was really quite impressed with JMG Wigan post match interview.
He comes across as intelligent, tactically switched on and seems to understand that player don't need hours of pratice to kick a ball. What players need IMO is leadership and tactical cohesion.
Is JMG the man to lead us onward? That can't be answered, but if he can get that squad playing like a team (which Cook couldn't even with his 'super' CV) and getting wins on the bounce then why bring someone else in?
I think JMG needs a few more games so we can see for ourselves if the team are responding.
No need to rush to get a new manager in IMO.
If JMG gets us firing consistently then surely the question is: Why is he not the best candidate for us?
Let's just see how Barrow goes on Wed. If we boss it, then JMG will be making his the case stronger.
I'd like to see him and Dyer still in place over the POPR games TBH to give them a fair crack at it and see if they can get us moving forward for once. |  | | |
| McGreal - who’d be ok if he got the job? (n/t) on 10:42 - Dec 12 with 599 views | timothyeo |
| McGreal - who’d be ok if he got the job? (n/t) on 20:55 - Dec 11 by positivity |
who do you want, timmy? |
Id like Alex Neil, despite the Norwich connections. I'd also take a Warnock ahead of Mcgreal | | | |
| McGreal - who’d be ok if he got the job? (n/t) on 12:11 - Dec 12 with 565 views | Sawtrich |
I didn't go yesterday but apparently we changed formation and he made a substitution that worked in our favour. He's an improvement on what was happening previously. |  | | |
| McGreal - who’d be ok if he got the job? (n/t) on 12:15 - Dec 12 with 561 views | pointofblue |
| McGreal - who’d be ok if he got the job? (n/t) on 19:34 - Dec 11 by Keno |
In their appointment I didn't rate Keene, was dead against Jewell, accepted Mick with reservation, did NOT was Lambert and wouldn't have picked Hurst
Other than that Evans appointments were ok |
Keane rang alarm bells immediately with me, as did Jewell. Mick was a logical choice, as was Hurst, but worked out in different ways. My thought when we hired Lambert was “we may as well have kept Hurst”. If we appoint Harris I fear my reaction will be the same, just replace Hurst with Cook. As for Cook himself, he seemed very much the right choice at the time. | |
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| McGreal - who’d be ok if he got the job? (n/t) on 12:52 - Dec 12 with 540 views | Churchman |
| McGreal - who’d be ok if he got the job? (n/t) on 12:15 - Dec 12 by pointofblue |
Keane rang alarm bells immediately with me, as did Jewell. Mick was a logical choice, as was Hurst, but worked out in different ways. My thought when we hired Lambert was “we may as well have kept Hurst”. If we appoint Harris I fear my reaction will be the same, just replace Hurst with Cook. As for Cook himself, he seemed very much the right choice at the time. |
I thought at the time Magilton was appointed because he was cheap. Keane was a major risk to me because he seemed bereft of management skills and I loathed the idea of ‘Roy Keane’s Ipswich’. Jewell I thought was farcical at the time he was appointed. I thought Mick would be depressing, play garbage football, but might get us out of the division.
I was quite excited at the prospect of Hurst. Best young manager etc. it’s didn’t age well. Lambert always struck me as full of wind and his appointment depressed me. I thought Cook would be a guaranteed success. That didn’t age well either.
In conclusion, happy amateurs like me that know nothing about how the professional game works have little idea what will work and what doesn’t. Looking back, where John Cobbold excelled was that he was an excellent judge of people and perhaps that’s the key. You don’t employ the managers he did without having that skill. | | | |
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