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Separately, a government science adviser has suggested that panic around the oncoming Omicron wave is unjustified. Speaking in a personal capacity, Prof Robert Dingwall, a government Covid adviser from Nottingham Trent University, told the Daily Telegraph: “The Omicron situation seems to be increasingly absurd. There is obviously a lot of snobbery about South African science and medicine but their top people are as good as any you would find in a more universally developed country. They clearly don’t feel that the elite panic over here is justified, even allowing for the demographic differences in vulnerability — which are probably more than cancelled by the higher vaccination rate.
“My gut feeling is that Omicron is very much like the sort of flu pandemic we planned for — a lot of sickness absence from work in a short period, which will create difficulties for public services and economic activity, but not of such a severity as to be a big problem for the NHS and the funeral business.”
"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
Omicron might turn out to be a nasty cold after all.... on 00:09 - Dec 16 by BanksterDebtSlave
Thanks. And admitted primarily because of covid?
Yes, because that's why they're on the Government Covid website.
So...if you start off with hospitalisations running at 100 a day for Covid...then it increases by 38% the next day...and 38% of that the day after...by the end of the week you're just shy of 1000 a day admissions.
Again, not saying that's going to happen; but the whole point, where I came in and where I'll leave this for now and go to bed, is that it's too early to tell yet. We can but hope...
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Omicron might turn out to be a nasty cold after all.... on 00:25 - Dec 16 with 929 views
Omicron might turn out to be a nasty cold after all.... on 00:11 - Dec 16 by Trequartista
Yes there was nothing i had read there, it was just a hopeful thought based on nothing. It's just always bad news isn't it. But enough about ITFC.
Not all. Mutations, being pretty much random copying errors, are as likely to damage the virus or render it less harmful as to make things worse. Which is why we've seen so few variants of concern despite all the millions of cases.
Robert Dingwall is a sociologist! One of the leading South African scientists / doctors who was prominent in trying to convince people that it was mild was a signatory to the Great Barrington declaration as well.
Omicron might turn out to be a nasty cold after all.... on 06:27 - Dec 16 by gordon
Robert Dingwall is a sociologist! One of the leading South African scientists / doctors who was prominent in trying to convince people that it was mild was a signatory to the Great Barrington declaration as well.
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Omicron might turn out to be a nasty cold after all.... on 07:33 - Dec 16 with 768 views
Omicron might turn out to be a nasty cold after all.... on 06:27 - Dec 16 by gordon
Robert Dingwall is a sociologist! One of the leading South African scientists / doctors who was prominent in trying to convince people that it was mild was a signatory to the Great Barrington declaration as well.
https://gbdeclaration.org/ Had to Google that so here it is to save others the effort. Are government scientific advisers appointed directly by politicians or independently do you know?
"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
I prefer not to be quite so binary when considering the views of others. We are all right and wrong at times. Should I not consider the views of any of the declarations 890,000 signaturees?
"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
Omicron might turn out to be a nasty cold after all.... on 07:36 - Dec 16 by BanksterDebtSlave
I prefer not to be quite so binary when considering the views of others. We are all right and wrong at times. Should I not consider the views of any of the declarations 890,000 signaturees?
Surely we aren't here again?
The Great Barrington Declaration was ripped to shreds well over a year ago. It was poor science put together by a few right-wing scientists and a bunch of woo practitioners. It was covered in depth on here previously which I am sure you already know.
So yes, in this case you can totally disregard the views of those signatories. Citing that there is a large number of them as evidence that something should be considered is a form of appeal to authority fallacy.
SB
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Omicron might turn out to be a nasty cold after all.... on 08:47 - Dec 16 with 686 views
Omicron might turn out to be a nasty cold after all.... on 07:36 - Dec 16 by BanksterDebtSlave
I prefer not to be quite so binary when considering the views of others. We are all right and wrong at times. Should I not consider the views of any of the declarations 890,000 signaturees?
“ I prefer not to be quite so binary when considering the views of others.”
And yet you quoted only one side of the article.
That is somewhat binary, isn’t it?
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Omicron might turn out to be a nasty cold after all.... on 08:58 - Dec 16 with 676 views
Omicron might turn out to be a nasty cold after all.... on 08:26 - Dec 16 by StokieBlue
Surely we aren't here again?
The Great Barrington Declaration was ripped to shreds well over a year ago. It was poor science put together by a few right-wing scientists and a bunch of woo practitioners. It was covered in depth on here previously which I am sure you already know.
So yes, in this case you can totally disregard the views of those signatories. Citing that there is a large number of them as evidence that something should be considered is a form of appeal to authority fallacy.
SB
I was not defending the declaration, it was clearly misguided and this morning is the first time I heard of and then read it! What I actually said is that I would not dismiss all the signatures thoughts on all things because of it. So YET AGAIN you are reading what you want to see and not what I say. Thank goodness you are not interpreting data for scientific purposes in your day job!!
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"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
Omicron might turn out to be a nasty cold after all.... on 08:47 - Dec 16 by eireblue
“ I prefer not to be quite so binary when considering the views of others.”
And yet you quoted only one side of the article.
That is somewhat binary, isn’t it?
No. The linked article provided the necessary balance. I suppose in future all posters will be held to this standard and replicate the entire article rather than just links!
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"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
Omicron might turn out to be a nasty cold after all.... on 09:01 - Dec 16 by BanksterDebtSlave
No. The linked article provided the necessary balance. I suppose in future all posters will be held to this standard and replicate the entire article rather than just links!
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“ I suppose in future all posters will be held to this standard and replicate the entire article rather than just links!”
I was just pointing out it was you that expressed a preference for non-binary thinking. And emphasising only once side of balanced article, is not really holding yourself up to your own standard.
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Omicron might turn out to be a nasty cold after all.... on 13:51 - Dec 16 with 571 views
Omicron might turn out to be a nasty cold after all.... on 13:45 - Dec 16 by eireblue
“ I suppose in future all posters will be held to this standard and replicate the entire article rather than just links!”
I was just pointing out it was you that expressed a preference for non-binary thinking. And emphasising only once side of balanced article, is not really holding yourself up to your own standard.
I was just doing my bit for the twtd collective consciousness!
"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
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