Left Wing Back in a back five 17:33 - Jan 7 with 1346 views | Smithy | Could Kyle Edwards be a surprise success there??? | |
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Left Wing Back in a back five on 17:44 - Jan 7 with 1293 views | Guthrum | Don't think it would be that much of a surprise. He is good at beating his man. Altho a lot of the same issues would exist as when he is on the wing - crossing and shooting. Not such onerous defensive duties as a proper full-back. | |
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Left Wing Back in a back five on 17:58 - Jan 7 with 1241 views | jayessess | He looks a good one-on-one defender and seems relatively disciplined positionally. A lot of teams (Rotherham the most notable) have also used our full backs receiving the ball as a trigger to press and you'd imagine Edwards would be good at playing through that. But it still might be a big reach! How many left wingers became brilliant left wing backs? | |
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Left Wing Back in a back five on 18:04 - Jan 7 with 1221 views | Keaneish |
Left Wing Back in a back five on 17:44 - Jan 7 by Guthrum | Don't think it would be that much of a surprise. He is good at beating his man. Altho a lot of the same issues would exist as when he is on the wing - crossing and shooting. Not such onerous defensive duties as a proper full-back. |
If we're playing wing-backs its more onerous and one of the toughest positions on the pitch. The yards you cover in a game working up and down the channel are massive. To answer the OP, he's not ready for that i don't think. I noticed he switched off a few times in recent games tracking back. I'd like to see him work on his end product more than his tracking to be honest as both might be a step beyond him at this stage. Get one right and then introduce another. | |
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Left Wing Back in a back five on 18:34 - Jan 7 with 1143 views | Guthrum |
Left Wing Back in a back five on 18:04 - Jan 7 by Keaneish | If we're playing wing-backs its more onerous and one of the toughest positions on the pitch. The yards you cover in a game working up and down the channel are massive. To answer the OP, he's not ready for that i don't think. I noticed he switched off a few times in recent games tracking back. I'd like to see him work on his end product more than his tracking to be honest as both might be a step beyond him at this stage. Get one right and then introduce another. |
Yes if it's wing-backs in a four, a bit easier if you have three centre-backs to cover (with one necessarily out a bit wider on your side). Edit: Also, I'm not sure lack of speed is his problem. [Post edited 7 Jan 2022 18:34]
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Left Wing Back in a back five on 19:58 - Jan 7 with 1030 views | NthQldITFC |
Left Wing Back in a back five on 17:44 - Jan 7 by Guthrum | Don't think it would be that much of a surprise. He is good at beating his man. Altho a lot of the same issues would exist as when he is on the wing - crossing and shooting. Not such onerous defensive duties as a proper full-back. |
I think he's perfect for that role, and he just needs to be coached to take half a second longer to calm himself before crossing or shooting. He's on the edge of being a really, really good player. | |
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Left Wing Back in a back five on 20:39 - Jan 7 with 983 views | Metal_Hacker |
Left Wing Back in a back five on 19:58 - Jan 7 by NthQldITFC | I think he's perfect for that role, and he just needs to be coached to take half a second longer to calm himself before crossing or shooting. He's on the edge of being a really, really good player. |
I’m with you this and noticed you mention him for this role for a good few weeks too Hoping McK gets in his ribs and coaches him Think it could and would (eventually) be very good | |
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Left Wing Back in a back five on 20:41 - Jan 7 with 963 views | Dyland |
Left Wing Back in a back five on 17:44 - Jan 7 by Guthrum | Don't think it would be that much of a surprise. He is good at beating his man. Altho a lot of the same issues would exist as when he is on the wing - crossing and shooting. Not such onerous defensive duties as a proper full-back. |
Agree, wouldn't be a surprise at all, not with a back three certainly. The midfield and one of the front two would need to keep coming close to get the ball though or we wouldn't create anything down that side ;) | |
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Agreed, has it in him... with the right coaching.... on 20:43 - Jan 7 with 955 views | Dyland |
Left Wing Back in a back five on 19:58 - Jan 7 by NthQldITFC | I think he's perfect for that role, and he just needs to be coached to take half a second longer to calm himself before crossing or shooting. He's on the edge of being a really, really good player. |
Oh! We have a young and exciting coaching team? Who woulda thought... COYFB | |
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Left Wing Back in a back five on 23:20 - Jan 7 with 823 views | bournemouthblue |
Left Wing Back in a back five on 17:58 - Jan 7 by jayessess | He looks a good one-on-one defender and seems relatively disciplined positionally. A lot of teams (Rotherham the most notable) have also used our full backs receiving the ball as a trigger to press and you'd imagine Edwards would be good at playing through that. But it still might be a big reach! How many left wingers became brilliant left wing backs? |
I few wingers have become full backs in their latter years see Ashley Young, James Miller and a few players like Kevin Kilbane, Fabian Delph etc It can be done, I think it was Martinez at Wigan used Victor Moses as a wing back in games I can remember Eddie Howe sticking Matt Ritchie at full back when they were totally overloading us, if simply just to attack us relentlessly given their dominance of the ball [Post edited 7 Jan 2022 23:20]
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Left Wing Back in a back five on 09:31 - Jan 8 with 573 views | Keaneish |
Left Wing Back in a back five on 18:34 - Jan 7 by Guthrum | Yes if it's wing-backs in a four, a bit easier if you have three centre-backs to cover (with one necessarily out a bit wider on your side). Edit: Also, I'm not sure lack of speed is his problem. [Post edited 7 Jan 2022 18:34]
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You don’t really want centre backs pulled out to cover though; the more they’re a solid unit of three within the width of the 18-yard box the harder we are to break down and the easier it is to defend balls into the box or runners from deep. A wing-back needs to be positionally sound and mark space as much as he does a man so he always has a good starting position. If he’s reliant on a centre back covering and the centre back gets done, we’re exposed. Edwards has a lot of work to do to be ready for this role. Men ran off him too easily playing a 442 at Wigan. Mind you, Penney is equally guilty of poor tracking and starting positions and relies on Edmundson a lot. | |
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Left Wing Back in a back five on 09:42 - Jan 8 with 552 views | franz_tyson |
Left Wing Back in a back five on 09:31 - Jan 8 by Keaneish | You don’t really want centre backs pulled out to cover though; the more they’re a solid unit of three within the width of the 18-yard box the harder we are to break down and the easier it is to defend balls into the box or runners from deep. A wing-back needs to be positionally sound and mark space as much as he does a man so he always has a good starting position. If he’s reliant on a centre back covering and the centre back gets done, we’re exposed. Edwards has a lot of work to do to be ready for this role. Men ran off him too easily playing a 442 at Wigan. Mind you, Penney is equally guilty of poor tracking and starting positions and relies on Edmundson a lot. |
I agree that Edwards will have to work hard to transform himself into a wing back. We all know about McKenna’s experience as a coach, but he’s not a magician. It’s got to come from the lad as well where he has to learn a different role and the skills of the defensive side. He could adapt but it will take time. Do we have time for someone to learn a new role? Might be better for him to be coached on his obvious weakness which is the end product. He’s got defenders on toast until he has that final split-second to pull the trigger. | | | |
Left Wing Back in a back five on 12:56 - Jan 8 with 457 views | chrismakin | I'd like to see what KVY could do as a left wing back. | |
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