| You learn more from defeat than you do victory 17:17 - Jan 15 with 1914 views | wkj |
Bolton seems to have the measure of us this season, that's for sure. I'm not necessarily trying to say that today was a positive, as it wasn't, but it does give McK the chance to see what he might need to do over the next two weeks.
Individual errors was the story of the day once more- then a failure to get motivated when on the back foot. Plenty of notes for McKenna to take into training as well as the transfer market if necessary. |  |
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| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:18 - Jan 15 with 1192 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Be nicer to have nothing to learn! |  |
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| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:19 - Jan 15 with 1165 views | wkj |
| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:18 - Jan 15 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Be nicer to have nothing to learn! |
That goes without saying. However, we can't win 'em all. Let's hope McK can evaluate those poor performances better than PC seemed to. | |
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| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:20 - Jan 15 with 1165 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
Hopefully we will bounce back quickly. McKenna seems like a detail man who’ll study what went wrong, rather than chuck out the same players, formations and tactics every game.
I think we need someone in on the left side for sure. |  | | |
| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:21 - Jan 15 with 1151 views | wkj |
| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:20 - Jan 15 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Hopefully we will bounce back quickly. McKenna seems like a detail man who’ll study what went wrong, rather than chuck out the same players, formations and tactics every game.
I think we need someone in on the left side for sure. |
I agree. I like what Penney is capable of, but I hate how inconsistent he is. Inconsistency is costly for us, so we need better. | |
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| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:24 - Jan 15 with 1119 views | footers |
“They were prepared physically and mentally for war. They’d all had at least nine lives, and had the burns, the dents, the bullet holes and the knife wounds to prove it.” - Andy McNab |  |
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| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:25 - Jan 15 with 1092 views | wkj |
| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:24 - Jan 15 by footers |
“They were prepared physically and mentally for war. They’d all had at least nine lives, and had the burns, the dents, the bullet holes and the knife wounds to prove it.” - Andy McNab |
What I wouldn't give for a bit of Juliet Bravo coursing through the team today! But no, we got Tosh from The Bill instead. | |
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| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:26 - Jan 15 with 1085 views | pennblue |
We have learn't that sacking a manager makes no difference, in fact it actually makes matters worse as the new manager now has to relearn what the previous one already knew. | |
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| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:28 - Jan 15 with 1068 views | CokeIsKey |
| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:26 - Jan 15 by pennblue |
We have learn't that sacking a manager makes no difference, in fact it actually makes matters worse as the new manager now has to relearn what the previous one already knew. |
Would you have kept Lambert then? |  |
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| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:29 - Jan 15 with 1046 views | bluebudgie |
| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:26 - Jan 15 by pennblue |
We have learn't that sacking a manager makes no difference, in fact it actually makes matters worse as the new manager now has to relearn what the previous one already knew. |
So are you saying Cook shouldn't have been sacked? |  | | |
| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:29 - Jan 15 with 1047 views | FightingEssex |
We must be ready for the Champions League with that logic… |  |
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| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:30 - Jan 15 with 1038 views | BarcaBlue |
| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:21 - Jan 15 by wkj |
I agree. I like what Penney is capable of, but I hate how inconsistent he is. Inconsistency is costly for us, so we need better. |
What is Penney capable of? Consistently our worst performing player, I don't remember him showing anything to suggest he's a more than a below average third division squad member. Maybe unfair to single him out today but I don't recall him ever having contributed anything of note. |  | | |
| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:30 - Jan 15 with 1037 views | wkj |
| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:26 - Jan 15 by pennblue |
We have learn't that sacking a manager makes no difference, in fact it actually makes matters worse as the new manager now has to relearn what the previous one already knew. |
That remains to be seen, but I would say KM getting a Back2Back victory muck quicker than Cook bodes well. | |
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| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:30 - Jan 15 with 1028 views | footers |
| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:28 - Jan 15 by CokeIsKey |
Would you have kept Lambert then? |
The corpse of Sir Bob would've done us OK, surely. Cheap wages. | |
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| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:31 - Jan 15 with 1021 views | wkj |
| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:30 - Jan 15 by BarcaBlue |
What is Penney capable of? Consistently our worst performing player, I don't remember him showing anything to suggest he's a more than a below average third division squad member. Maybe unfair to single him out today but I don't recall him ever having contributed anything of note. |
He's a bit like Gwion Edwards. He has had a few flashes of decent footy - but is no where what we need. | |
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| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:32 - Jan 15 with 1020 views | Herbivore |
Defeat is disappointing, especially as it sounds like we just weren't really at it, but it also gives McKenna a chance to potentially freshen things up. After the Sunderland performance he kind of had to stick with that line up really and we then won two on the bounce and you don't want to be changing a winning side. Be interesting to see if we make some tweaks now. I get the impression McKenna wants to play more of a 3-4-3 and think we need to tweak the personnel slightly to get the best out of that system. We also need fewer of our players to go missing when the going gets tough, but that's been an issue for ages and won't be fixed overnight. |  |
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| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:34 - Jan 15 with 987 views | pennblue |
| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:32 - Jan 15 by Herbivore |
Defeat is disappointing, especially as it sounds like we just weren't really at it, but it also gives McKenna a chance to potentially freshen things up. After the Sunderland performance he kind of had to stick with that line up really and we then won two on the bounce and you don't want to be changing a winning side. Be interesting to see if we make some tweaks now. I get the impression McKenna wants to play more of a 3-4-3 and think we need to tweak the personnel slightly to get the best out of that system. We also need fewer of our players to go missing when the going gets tough, but that's been an issue for ages and won't be fixed overnight. |
Lost 3
Drawn 2
Won 2.
The two wins were one against a very poor Gillingham, and the other one was scraping a 1-0 against Wycombe (where we were lucky to not draw).
1st January Paul Cook would have had his replacements lined up, a new central midfielder, a new left back and a new centre back.
Maybe lessons will be learn't from this, maybe not. | |
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| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:37 - Jan 15 with 968 views | homer_123 |
| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:26 - Jan 15 by pennblue |
We have learn't that sacking a manager makes no difference, in fact it actually makes matters worse as the new manager now has to relearn what the previous one already knew. |
Why would a new manager relearn what the previous ubsuccessful manager knew? Surely the point of said new manager is to do things differently and avoid what's gone before.
Definition of madness is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result. |  |
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| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:38 - Jan 15 with 960 views | wkj |
| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:34 - Jan 15 by pennblue |
Lost 3
Drawn 2
Won 2.
The two wins were one against a very poor Gillingham, and the other one was scraping a 1-0 against Wycombe (where we were lucky to not draw).
1st January Paul Cook would have had his replacements lined up, a new central midfielder, a new left back and a new centre back.
Maybe lessons will be learn't from this, maybe not. |
You're reaching pretty hard here. The stats are Won 2, Lost 1 - claiming otherwise is manipulating the facts. | |
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| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:38 - Jan 15 with 957 views | homer_123 |
| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:34 - Jan 15 by pennblue |
Lost 3
Drawn 2
Won 2.
The two wins were one against a very poor Gillingham, and the other one was scraping a 1-0 against Wycombe (where we were lucky to not draw).
1st January Paul Cook would have had his replacements lined up, a new central midfielder, a new left back and a new centre back.
Maybe lessons will be learn't from this, maybe not. |
You have no idea, at all, if Cook would have brought anyone in. | |
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| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:39 - Jan 15 with 949 views | Herbivore |
| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:34 - Jan 15 by pennblue |
Lost 3
Drawn 2
Won 2.
The two wins were one against a very poor Gillingham, and the other one was scraping a 1-0 against Wycombe (where we were lucky to not draw).
1st January Paul Cook would have had his replacements lined up, a new central midfielder, a new left back and a new centre back.
Maybe lessons will be learn't from this, maybe not. |
Still defending Cook. Bizarre. | |
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| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:39 - Jan 15 with 948 views | BarcaBlue |
| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:34 - Jan 15 by pennblue |
Lost 3
Drawn 2
Won 2.
The two wins were one against a very poor Gillingham, and the other one was scraping a 1-0 against Wycombe (where we were lucky to not draw).
1st January Paul Cook would have had his replacements lined up, a new central midfielder, a new left back and a new centre back.
Maybe lessons will be learn't from this, maybe not. |
There's been some real tosh written after the match today but that beats even Makin's hot takes. Not easy to do either. | | | |
| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:41 - Jan 15 with 932 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:34 - Jan 15 by pennblue |
Lost 3
Drawn 2
Won 2.
The two wins were one against a very poor Gillingham, and the other one was scraping a 1-0 against Wycombe (where we were lucky to not draw).
1st January Paul Cook would have had his replacements lined up, a new central midfielder, a new left back and a new centre back.
Maybe lessons will be learn't from this, maybe not. |
What are you on about?
McKenna's record is W2 D0 L1.
Cook's win percentage throughout his time here was 29.5%. The stats you quote (whatever they are meant to represent) are the same win percentage so about what might have been expected from Cook (but probably only 1 draw and 4 losses). McKenna (currently) has a 67% win percentage.
If your takeaway from today is that sacking the manager makes no difference, either you are trolling or you don't pay any attention. | |
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| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:42 - Jan 15 with 919 views | Herbivore |
| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:37 - Jan 15 by homer_123 |
Why would a new manager relearn what the previous ubsuccessful manager knew? Surely the point of said new manager is to do things differently and avoid what's gone before.
Definition of madness is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result. |
6 points from 3 games under McKenna so far as well, which is an improvement on Cook's start here, his end here, and his record here overall. How telling that this particular poster has reappeared after McKenna's first loss but had very little to say after back to back wins in his first two games in charge....... | |
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| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:44 - Jan 15 with 883 views | homer_123 |
| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:42 - Jan 15 by Herbivore |
6 points from 3 games under McKenna so far as well, which is an improvement on Cook's start here, his end here, and his record here overall. How telling that this particular poster has reappeared after McKenna's first loss but had very little to say after back to back wins in his first two games in charge....... |
Said poster was very vocal leading up to Cooks departure and very pro Cook. Quiet since as you say Herbs. | |
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| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:45 - Jan 15 with 886 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| You learn more from defeat than you do victory on 17:34 - Jan 15 by pennblue |
Lost 3
Drawn 2
Won 2.
The two wins were one against a very poor Gillingham, and the other one was scraping a 1-0 against Wycombe (where we were lucky to not draw).
1st January Paul Cook would have had his replacements lined up, a new central midfielder, a new left back and a new centre back.
Maybe lessons will be learn't from this, maybe not. |
Cook's dreadful record here is sometimes defended by it needing time for a new squad to gel. The solution you seem to think is that he would have been able to get another new squad in on 1 January (despite no club ever in the history of the game signing more than a couple of players early in a January window - instead business is left to the end when clubs get desperate and pay silly money).
And it is learnt not learn't. | |
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