| Is Boris Johnson a russian asset? 22:47 - Jan 17 with 2263 views | XYZ |
The evidence is laid out in extraordinary detail in this thread. They never had this sort of evidence against Wilson or Corbyn ...
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| Is Boris Johnson a russian asset? on 22:52 - Jan 17 with 1907 views | Darth_Koont |
I immediately thought no, how on earth could Boris be considered an asset!??
Completely forgetting that we actually made him Prime Minister. 😲 |  |
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| Is Boris Johnson a russian asset? on 22:54 - Jan 17 with 1892 views | StokieBlue |
He's simply too stupid to be a successful asset, although he might manage it simply by accident.
Although we are sending anti-tank missiles to the Ukraine today so I doubt that would go down well with his masters in Moscow.
It also seem the Germans wouldn't allow the UK transport planes to fly over Germany because they are trying to take a softer stance on Russia due to energy supply issues.
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| Is Boris Johnson a russian asset? on 22:56 - Jan 17 with 1878 views | XYZ |
| Is Boris Johnson a russian asset? on 22:54 - Jan 17 by StokieBlue |
He's simply too stupid to be a successful asset, although he might manage it simply by accident.
Although we are sending anti-tank missiles to the Ukraine today so I doubt that would go down well with his masters in Moscow.
It also seem the Germans wouldn't allow the UK transport planes to fly over Germany because they are trying to take a softer stance on Russia due to energy supply issues.
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He's completely destabilised the UK (brexit) and bruised the EU.
Both favourable to Putin's aims for a disunited western Europe. | | | |
| Is Boris Johnson a russian asset? on 22:57 - Jan 17 with 1867 views | StokieBlue |
| Is Boris Johnson a russian asset? on 22:56 - Jan 17 by XYZ |
He's completely destabilised the UK (brexit) and bruised the EU.
Both favourable to Putin's aims for a disunited western Europe. |
Exactly.
I don't think he's clever enough to do that on purpose. As I said, by accident he could be an asset without ever having to make him an official asset.
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| Is Boris Johnson a russian asset? on 22:58 - Jan 17 with 1855 views | XYZ |
| Is Boris Johnson a russian asset? on 22:57 - Jan 17 by StokieBlue |
Exactly.
I don't think he's clever enough to do that on purpose. As I said, by accident he could be an asset without ever having to make him an official asset.
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I'm not sure they have "official" assets. | | | |
| Is Boris Johnson a russian asset? on 23:01 - Jan 17 with 1829 views | StokieBlue |
| Is Boris Johnson a russian asset? on 22:58 - Jan 17 by XYZ |
I'm not sure they have "official" assets. |
You know what I mean.
I think it's applying a level of competence to him which simply doesn't exist.
Even without being an asset, your points are true in the general case, he's certainly been helpful to Russia with what he has "achieved".
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| Is Boris Johnson a russian asset? on 23:09 - Jan 17 with 1793 views | XYZ |
| Is Boris Johnson a russian asset? on 23:01 - Jan 17 by StokieBlue |
You know what I mean.
I think it's applying a level of competence to him which simply doesn't exist.
Even without being an asset, your points are true in the general case, he's certainly been helpful to Russia with what he has "achieved".
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Yes, I do, but they never needed to ask much.
There's an awful lot of evidence (circumstantial and otherwise) set out in that thread, including undeclared trips whilst an MP.
This country takes outside influence much less seriously than virtually any other "western democracy" on such matters.
For example, does any other country allow non-domestic press ownership the way the UK does? | | | |
| Is Boris Johnson a russian asset? on 23:28 - Jan 17 with 1753 views | Guthrum |
| Is Boris Johnson a russian asset? on 23:01 - Jan 17 by StokieBlue |
You know what I mean.
I think it's applying a level of competence to him which simply doesn't exist.
Even without being an asset, your points are true in the general case, he's certainly been helpful to Russia with what he has "achieved".
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The thing is, you don't necessarily handle "assets" by giving them a shopping list of tasks to achieve. You do it by flattery, suggestion and gentle steering. They don't even have to know they're being influenced. Feed the ego, give them a bit of help, a few nice things along the way, let their own energy get them in the position to be most effective, then have trusted friends drop in a few bits of "advice" for them to take on board.
Intellect is not a requirement (indeed, may lead to them spotting the manipulation). Being in a position to get somewhere useful in life is. |  |
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| Is Boris Johnson a russian asset? on 01:07 - Jan 18 with 1634 views | HARRY10 |
| Is Boris Johnson a russian asset? on 22:52 - Jan 17 by Darth_Koont |
I immediately thought no, how on earth could Boris be considered an asset!??
Completely forgetting that we actually made him Prime Minister. 😲 |
I immediately thought no, how on earth wouldn't Boris be considered an ass !?? | | | |
| Is Boris Johnson a russian asset? on 07:36 - Jan 18 with 1467 views | Steve_M |
It's pretty much all circumstantial evidence and really isn't much of a case. Johnson is motivated purely by self interest and every thing he does come back to that.
It would be better to focus on the genuinely corrosive influence of Russian money in London, to lawyers, in property, financial services and, of course, those donations to the Tory party. |  |
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| Is Boris Johnson a russian asset? on 08:02 - Jan 18 with 1409 views | chicoazul |
Well that’s me convinced. |  |
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| Is Boris Johnson a russian asset? on 08:35 - Jan 18 with 1363 views | Guthrum |
| Is Boris Johnson a russian asset? on 07:36 - Jan 18 by Steve_M |
It's pretty much all circumstantial evidence and really isn't much of a case. Johnson is motivated purely by self interest and every thing he does come back to that.
It would be better to focus on the genuinely corrosive influence of Russian money in London, to lawyers, in property, financial services and, of course, those donations to the Tory party. |
Your second sentence is not necessarily at cross-purposes with him being a Russian asset, quite the opposite.
All you have to do is persuade him that his self-interest aligns with yours. Not overtly or in every area, just some that nudge things in the best direction for you. In return, you can offer to help him satisfy his ambitions to become powerful, ease any financial problems, throw a few jolly parties (appealing to his sense of exclusivity). Use their own ego as leverage. | |
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| Is Boris Johnson a russian asset? on 08:37 - Jan 18 with 1354 views | chicoazul |
So many experts in espionage in this thread, TWTD never disappoints. | |
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| Is Boris Johnson a russian asset? on 09:21 - Jan 18 with 1278 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| Is Boris Johnson a russian asset? on 08:37 - Jan 18 by chicoazul |
So many experts in espionage in this thread, TWTD never disappoints. |
You should know, you're using the same techniques... |  |
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| Is Boris Johnson a russian asset? on 09:24 - Jan 18 with 1268 views | Herbivore |
| Is Boris Johnson a russian asset? on 08:02 - Jan 18 by chicoazul |
Well that’s me convinced. |
It's better evidenced than most of the things you believe to be the case. |  |
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| Is Boris Johnson a russian asset? on 09:27 - Jan 18 with 1240 views | Swansea_Blue |
His impacts are certainly aligned to Russia's interests. But they're also aligned to American right wing disaster capitalists' interests too.
There are unanswered questions surrounding his Russian links, but I suspect it's more to do with him using his privilege to sponge off the super wealthy than anything more organised. You never know though. |  |
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| Is Boris Johnson a russian asset? on 09:30 - Jan 18 with 1230 views | BlueBadger |
| Is Boris Johnson a russian asset? on 08:37 - Jan 18 by chicoazul |
So many experts in espionage in this thread, TWTD never disappoints. |
Ah, the wise words of Ted Bundy there. |  |
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| Is Boris Johnson a russian asset? on 09:30 - Jan 18 with 1230 views | giant_stow |
| Is Boris Johnson a russian asset? on 08:37 - Jan 18 by chicoazul |
So many experts in espionage in this thread, TWTD never disappoints. |
You, my good man, are mistaking posters chewing the cud with posters considering themselves expert. In that vein, I found the link between Russian funding of the Telegraph and Boris's unusally high salary interesting (assuming its true) |  |
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| Is Boris Johnson a russian asset? on 09:32 - Jan 18 with 1223 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Is Boris Johnson a russian asset? on 08:37 - Jan 18 by chicoazul |
So many experts in espionage in this thread, TWTD never disappoints. |
Crazy innit. People having a view on things on an internet discussion board. Whatever next?! | |
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| Is Boris Johnson a russian asset? on 09:33 - Jan 18 with 1223 views | BlueBadger |
| Is Boris Johnson a russian asset? on 08:02 - Jan 18 by chicoazul |
Well that’s me convinced. |
Hey, it's exactly how David Berkowitz picked his victims, don't mess with the classics! | |
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| Is Boris Johnson a russian asset? on 09:37 - Jan 18 with 1206 views | lowhouseblue |
it's on topics like this that cil's input would have been useful.
on the other hand i've been assuming that if she were now to return it would be a signal that the invasion of ukraine is imminent. |  |
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| Is Boris Johnson a russian asset? on 09:45 - Jan 18 with 1177 views | BlueBadger |
| Is Boris Johnson a russian asset? on 09:32 - Jan 18 by Swansea_Blue |
Crazy innit. People having a view on things on an internet discussion board. Whatever next?! |
People quoting terrorists in their signatures? | |
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| Is Boris Johnson a russian asset? on 09:49 - Jan 18 with 1158 views | nodge_blue |
This post, whether tongue in cheek or not, is one of the things thats I find truly depressing about the internet. |  |
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| Is Boris Johnson a russian asset? on 14:13 - Jan 19 with 950 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Is Boris Johnson a russian asset? on 09:37 - Jan 18 by lowhouseblue |
it's on topics like this that cil's input would have been useful.
on the other hand i've been assuming that if she were now to return it would be a signal that the invasion of ukraine is imminent. |
I think CIL is now deep within the German government.
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