Lucky Generals 09:06 - Jan 26 with 2812 views | jayessess | Is it fair to say that we've had a couple of decent slices of fortune during 3 of our 4 recent wins? Wycombe blazing a late chance over the bar, Accrington hit the bar twice, Wimbledon hitting the post? There's a (probably apocryphal) Napoleon quote "I'd rather my generals were lucky than able" and maybe McKenna's a lucky general! Or maybe you just notice the doses of good fortune more when you're well organised and defensively sound, meaning you don't concede 2 minutes later. | |
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Lucky Generals on 09:07 - Jan 26 with 2121 views | homer_123 | As I said last night, under Cook and Lambert that wasn't a game we would have won. | |
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Lucky Generals on 09:09 - Jan 26 with 2096 views | FrimleyBlue |
Lucky Generals on 09:07 - Jan 26 by homer_123 | As I said last night, under Cook and Lambert that wasn't a game we would have won. |
Under PC probably not Lambert.. dunno. He never struggled against those sides. He just couldn't beat anyone top 8. | |
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Lucky Generals on 09:10 - Jan 26 with 2073 views | jayessess |
Lucky Generals on 09:07 - Jan 26 by homer_123 | As I said last night, under Cook and Lambert that wasn't a game we would have won. |
I think that's the case for 3 out of our 4 wins under McKenna. We're resilient when the opposition have a spell. We find ways to get a bit more control in the game. We make good on bits of good fortune we do get. | |
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Lucky Generals on 09:10 - Jan 26 with 2064 views | SaleAway | I guess you can turn it around - in the past it always felt that we were unlucky... we'd concede from the first/only shot the oppo had in the game. Feels a bit more balanced now. Whatever it is - 4 wins out of 5 feels pretty good. | |
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Lucky Generals on 09:11 - Jan 26 with 2063 views | Keno | It may be a case of “the harder I work, the luckier I get” | |
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Lucky Generals on 09:12 - Jan 26 with 2037 views | jayessess |
Lucky Generals on 09:10 - Jan 26 by SaleAway | I guess you can turn it around - in the past it always felt that we were unlucky... we'd concede from the first/only shot the oppo had in the game. Feels a bit more balanced now. Whatever it is - 4 wins out of 5 feels pretty good. |
Of course we did concede from the opposition's first shot on goal against Accrington (very much a half chance too) and turned it round! | |
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Lucky Generals on 09:16 - Jan 26 with 2003 views | Darth_Koont | Bit of both, I think. We’ve ridden our luck certainly but have generally been more solid and compact in defence so don’t cough up as many chances. And by essentially moving a player from the attack to defence we’re getting bodies in the way/cutting down time and space when chances do arise. | |
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Lucky Generals on 09:20 - Jan 26 with 1973 views | StirlingArcher | Wimbledon hit the post - the only shot that hit the post, was after a handball... ? | | | | Login to get fewer ads
Lucky Generals on 09:21 - Jan 26 with 1967 views | jayessess |
Lucky Generals on 09:20 - Jan 26 by StirlingArcher | Wimbledon hit the post - the only shot that hit the post, was after a handball... ? |
From a second half corner, Wimbledon had a headed chance, which Woolfenden blocked onto the post. | |
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Lucky Generals on 09:22 - Jan 26 with 1961 views | StirlingArcher |
Lucky Generals on 09:21 - Jan 26 by jayessess | From a second half corner, Wimbledon had a headed chance, which Woolfenden blocked onto the post. |
The one that hit Walton's heel? technically a save | | | |
Lucky Generals on 09:27 - Jan 26 with 1937 views | Guthrum | It might be a function of our defence/'keeper preventing, blocking or saving all but the most marginal shots on goal. Shooters are forced to aim for the very edge, thus increasing their chances of just missing. Also, with our increased possession of the ball, opponents feel a pressure to maximise every chance they have, perhaps leading to rushed shots from further out. | |
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Lucky Generals on 09:56 - Jan 26 with 1878 views | Steve_M | Maybe, but being more organised certainly helps. I like the way we can have a dodgy spell and reassert ourselves under McK. On luck, a couple of bits for Cook I recall: Portsmouth missed a really good chance at 0-0 at Fratton Park, might have been different had that gone in and we probably scored with our first shot at Wycombe which changed that game around. | |
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Lucky Generals on 10:03 - Jan 26 with 1839 views | solemio |
Lucky Generals on 09:11 - Jan 26 by Keno | It may be a case of “the harder I work, the luckier I get” |
Thank you, Lee Trevino. | | | |
100% we’re having our seasons good fortune and luck period right now on 10:16 - Jan 26 with 1806 views | unstableblue | And the good news is we’re getting wins from it. Add waltons heel getting a jammy goal line block yesterday. We didn’t have this good fortune and we didn’t always have our talisman Burns. The trick is to build a store of confidence in these good times, build some resilience into the team, and get a good points tally. Then we’re a stronger team so we make our own luck. But yes the gods are with us at present. | |
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Lucky Generals on 10:33 - Jan 26 with 1755 views | Keno |
Lucky Generals on 10:03 - Jan 26 by solemio | Thank you, Lee Trevino. |
I thought I was Gary Player? | |
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Lucky Generals on 10:51 - Jan 26 with 1687 views | WestStanderLaLaLa | It feels like we’re developing a mental toughness and belief that we can get through sticky spells. | |
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Lucky Generals on 11:35 - Jan 26 with 1616 views | solemio |
Lucky Generals on 10:33 - Jan 26 by Keno | I thought I was Gary Player? |
It's often attributed to Player and even to Jack Nicklaus, but Trevino insists that they got it from him. | | | |
Lucky Generals on 11:40 - Jan 26 with 1589 views | Keno |
Lucky Generals on 11:35 - Jan 26 by solemio | It's often attributed to Player and even to Jack Nicklaus, but Trevino insists that they got it from him. |
yes, I think a few golfers have tried to claim it but Trevino is actually who I think of | |
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Lucky Generals on 11:46 - Jan 26 with 1581 views | Churchman | There is no evidence that Napoleon said that. I believe Cardinal Mazarin said something similar and it was subsequently attributed to ‘The Ogre’. Interestingly, he could have done with a competent Marshal or two at Waterloo, given the dogs dinner in particular Ney, Soult andGrouchy made of it. | | | |
Lucky Generals on 11:49 - Jan 26 with 1568 views | Keno |
Lucky Generals on 11:46 - Jan 26 by Churchman | There is no evidence that Napoleon said that. I believe Cardinal Mazarin said something similar and it was subsequently attributed to ‘The Ogre’. Interestingly, he could have done with a competent Marshal or two at Waterloo, given the dogs dinner in particular Ney, Soult andGrouchy made of it. |
According to the history book on the shelf is always repeating that Benny and Bjorn did well with Waterloo | |
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Lucky Generals on 11:51 - Jan 26 with 1556 views | Churchman |
Lucky Generals on 11:49 - Jan 26 by Keno | According to the history book on the shelf is always repeating that Benny and Bjorn did well with Waterloo |
Not forgetting Anni-Frid and Agnatha!! | | | |
Lucky Generals on 11:56 - Jan 26 with 1542 views | Bluroo | The better you are the luckier you get. Had one of those Wimbledon efforts gone in last night, we'd still have won. Under Cook it might well have meant a draw or even a loss. | | | |
Lucky Generals on 12:02 - Jan 26 with 1524 views | Guthrum |
Lucky Generals on 11:46 - Jan 26 by Churchman | There is no evidence that Napoleon said that. I believe Cardinal Mazarin said something similar and it was subsequently attributed to ‘The Ogre’. Interestingly, he could have done with a competent Marshal or two at Waterloo, given the dogs dinner in particular Ney, Soult andGrouchy made of it. |
Ney and Soult performed badly (tho the former was more an assault leader than a tactician), but Grouchy seems to have done pretty much what was asked of him - follow the Prussians and engage them. His limited forces and the river-crossing defensive position at Wavre rather prevented him from stopping Blucher leading all but a blocking force to Plancenoit. It took him all day to take the town. If he'd tried breaking off and marching to the sound of the guns, the Prussians would have been all over him in open country. Finally, if Napoleon wanted Grouchy as a reserve at Waterloo, he should have ordered that, rather than sending him elsewhere (and, initially, in the wrong direction). Grouchy also manged to withdraw his troops in good order, as opposed to the complete collapse of the main French army. A lot of the negativity towards Grouchy comes from Bonapartist apologists, casting around for excuses for their hero's own failures. | |
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Lucky Generals on 12:30 - Jan 26 with 1475 views | Churchman |
Lucky Generals on 12:02 - Jan 26 by Guthrum | Ney and Soult performed badly (tho the former was more an assault leader than a tactician), but Grouchy seems to have done pretty much what was asked of him - follow the Prussians and engage them. His limited forces and the river-crossing defensive position at Wavre rather prevented him from stopping Blucher leading all but a blocking force to Plancenoit. It took him all day to take the town. If he'd tried breaking off and marching to the sound of the guns, the Prussians would have been all over him in open country. Finally, if Napoleon wanted Grouchy as a reserve at Waterloo, he should have ordered that, rather than sending him elsewhere (and, initially, in the wrong direction). Grouchy also manged to withdraw his troops in good order, as opposed to the complete collapse of the main French army. A lot of the negativity towards Grouchy comes from Bonapartist apologists, casting around for excuses for their hero's own failures. |
I did hesitate to include Grouchy. The principle accusations if I remember rightly were that he failed to use his initiative to march to the clearly audible guns, didn’t stay close enough to Blucher, he didn’t move his army quickly enough possibly due to inexperience of independent command. I’ve not read enough about Grouchy so please correct me if I’m wrong - history tends to be written by the winners and the losers like to blame somebody else.. Ney in particular was certainly no tactician. A man of extreme bravery that couldn’t be questioned, but his decision making is mystifying both at Quatre Bras and at Waterloo in particular with launching heavy cavalry against squares time after time without artillery and infantry support. He was left in overall command when Napoleon felt a bit peaky and it didn’t go well. Brave to the end, Ney refused a blindfold when executed at the end of the year. | | | |
Lucky Generals on 12:32 - Jan 26 with 1465 views | jayessess |
Lucky Generals on 11:46 - Jan 26 by Churchman | There is no evidence that Napoleon said that. I believe Cardinal Mazarin said something similar and it was subsequently attributed to ‘The Ogre’. Interestingly, he could have done with a competent Marshal or two at Waterloo, given the dogs dinner in particular Ney, Soult andGrouchy made of it. |
It was a great opportunity for me to work the word "apocryphal" into a post though. | |
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