| Tyreece Simpson update 10:03 - Jan 28 with 16292 views | greyhound |
From what I understand...
Tyreece was recalled as he has refused to discuss/sign new contractual terms with town.
He has been moved into the u18s to train. So don't go expecting him to be given match time any time soon.
Understand from source this is a power play/punishment for him refusing to initiay speak with town.
Haven't scanned the board in a few days so this may already be posted and will remove if covered elsewhere
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| That was the suggestion on the Kings of Anglia podcast too on 14:07 - Jan 28 with 2760 views | strikalite |
| That was the suggestion on the Kings of Anglia podcast too on 12:36 - Jan 28 by ArnieM |
He’s Gone down in my estimation now I’m afraid . Yet another example of a young player thinking they’re bigger than the club and forgetting who it was that has got them to where they are now . |
There are many ways of looking at it, Clubs have no hesitation in casting players aside, it's cut throat, we're fans of course, we have a totally different feeling/interest, the players themselves are self employed to a degree, they have to be selfish and get the best deal for themselves, that's the reality now.. |  | | |
| Tyreece Simpson update on 15:02 - Jan 28 with 2639 views | southnorfolkblue |
| Tyreece Simpson update on 12:03 - Jan 28 by OriginalMarkyP |
His agent has probably been telling him he's had some big scouts watching at Swindon and he's destined for greater things.
He's drunk the kool aid and bought into that narrative.
For me it's pretty simple. He's scored 11 odd goals in a divison that Freddie Sears has got 12 in and Aaron Drinan has 13 in. Even Oli Hawkins has 6 and he's made of wood and spent half his games at CB.
He's having a good season but he's not the next Mbappe.
If he doesn't want to play for us get rid. |
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| [Redacted] on 16:00 - Jan 28 with 2555 views | victorywilhappen |
| Tyreece Simpson update on 10:31 - Jan 28 by Westcountryblue |
If that's the case, then that's incredibly poor form from Tyreece.
The club took a real punt on him when they first brought him into the academy in 2018 on a two year scholarship. He was a bits and pieces footballer with his background being more in athletics and rugby. The club and it's coaches have obviously worked incredibly hard with Tyreece, rewarding him with first team opportunities and also facilitating a great development loan for him this season.
Like we did last season, if someone doesn't want to represent the club, they should be moved on immediately. |
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| That was the suggestion on the Kings of Anglia podcast too on 19:30 - Jan 28 with 2327 views | jayessess |
| That was the suggestion on the Kings of Anglia podcast too on 14:03 - Jan 28 by ArnieM |
It’s down to greed once spect I suspect. If his counteract runs out in the summer and he’s not signed an extension he probably gets a much bigger signing on fee when he signs for Swindon. Stinks of agent intervention . |
There's no agent in the world who'd advise their client to move from Ipswich to Swindon. Our fringe players will be earning more than their top players.
Only way his agent makes more from the agitation is if we eventually cough up a bigger contract offer or if there's interest from a much richer team who want him in their academy. |  |
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| Tyreece Simpson update on 09:10 - Jan 29 with 1868 views | LegendofthePhoenix |
Like most, I was completely puzzled by his recall, but the analysis above makes sense of it. What a godawful mess caused in all likelihood by a scumbag agent who just sees Tyreece as his next big paycheck. It is dreadful that a talented young player is now training with the U18s, so it's grim for Tyreece and his development. It is terrible for Swindon who have lost their star striker for the second half of the season. It is terrible for ITFC as we are now covering his pay whilst his stock declines - but completely agree that this is the only option open (other than trying to talk some sense into him). And all because of "advice" from an agent with nothing more than self interest. I just hope that Tyreece comes to his senses and signs a contract extension because I could see him having a really big future here.
And as for selling him at the end of the season, do we know for sure that his contract extension can be triggered without his agreement? I suspect not, in which case his value to us in June would be zilch. Hence that may be why this drastic action is being taken now. [Post edited 29 Jan 2022 9:21]
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| Tyreece Simpson update on 09:28 - Jan 29 with 1816 views | The_Romford_Blue |
That doesn’t suprise me in the slightest.
Didn’t post it at the time as I didn’t want to stir up any trouble but when he left Swindon, I had a quick look on a few tweets and the replies. One of the tweets from a Swindon fan group had a reply from Simpsons aunt who outright said they and he were all very much disappointed to be forced into going back to Ipswich. |  |
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| Tyreece Simpson update on 09:37 - Jan 29 with 1780 views | LeoMuff |
| Tyreece Simpson update on 09:28 - Jan 29 by The_Romford_Blue |
That doesn’t suprise me in the slightest.
Didn’t post it at the time as I didn’t want to stir up any trouble but when he left Swindon, I had a quick look on a few tweets and the replies. One of the tweets from a Swindon fan group had a reply from Simpsons aunt who outright said they and he were all very much disappointed to be forced into going back to Ipswich. |
As others have stated probably been sniffed around by prem team, agent has got him to play hardball,knowing for us his value decline while out in the cold. |  |
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| Tyreece Simpson update on 09:48 - Jan 29 with 1750 views | Churchman |
| Tyreece Simpson update on 09:28 - Jan 29 by The_Romford_Blue |
That doesn’t suprise me in the slightest.
Didn’t post it at the time as I didn’t want to stir up any trouble but when he left Swindon, I had a quick look on a few tweets and the replies. One of the tweets from a Swindon fan group had a reply from Simpsons aunt who outright said they and he were all very much disappointed to be forced into going back to Ipswich. |
Simpson has had a good half a season there, but there’s many a player at his age who either had more promise and went down the tubes or was already in a first team at a higher level. At his age there are no guarantees.
If the club trigger a contract extension, his best bet would be to get his head down and crack on with learning the game. The alternative is dicking around and quite possibly letting his career slide. I can’t see Man City or Chelsea riding over the horizon for him any time soon, regardless of what his agent or his aunt says.
The truth and what’s reported are quite often different things and that of course is the big question mark to my thoughts. But, if what’s been reported is true, get rid of ASAP. We don’t want anyone near the club who doesn’t want to be here. |  | | |
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| Tyreece Simpson update on 09:59 - Jan 29 with 1704 views | Radlett_blue |
| Tyreece Simpson update on 09:10 - Jan 29 by LegendofthePhoenix |
Like most, I was completely puzzled by his recall, but the analysis above makes sense of it. What a godawful mess caused in all likelihood by a scumbag agent who just sees Tyreece as his next big paycheck. It is dreadful that a talented young player is now training with the U18s, so it's grim for Tyreece and his development. It is terrible for Swindon who have lost their star striker for the second half of the season. It is terrible for ITFC as we are now covering his pay whilst his stock declines - but completely agree that this is the only option open (other than trying to talk some sense into him). And all because of "advice" from an agent with nothing more than self interest. I just hope that Tyreece comes to his senses and signs a contract extension because I could see him having a really big future here.
And as for selling him at the end of the season, do we know for sure that his contract extension can be triggered without his agreement? I suspect not, in which case his value to us in June would be zilch. Hence that may be why this drastic action is being taken now. [Post edited 29 Jan 2022 9:21]
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Contract extensions are invariably one way, in favour of the club. If they had to be agreed by both parties, what would be the point of them?
According to Phil, Simpson has not been banished to training with the U18s. |  |
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| Tyreece Simpson update on 10:55 - Jan 29 with 1553 views | xrayspecs |
| Tyreece Simpson update on 09:37 - Jan 29 by LeoMuff |
As others have stated probably been sniffed around by prem team, agent has got him to play hardball,knowing for us his value decline while out in the cold. |
Prem team. You are having a laugh. | | | |
| Tyreece Simpson update on 11:13 - Jan 29 with 1511 views | itfcjoe |
| Tyreece Simpson update on 10:55 - Jan 29 by xrayspecs |
Prem team. You are having a laugh. |
Why? |  |
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| Tyreece Simpson update on 11:16 - Jan 29 with 1497 views | LeoMuff |
| Tyreece Simpson update on 10:55 - Jan 29 by xrayspecs |
Prem team. You are having a laugh. |
Only seen highlights but looks fast, strong, good touch and finish and 18/19 years old banging in goals in league 2, would be amazed if prem clubs haven’t had a look. | |
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| Tyreece Simpson update on 11:20 - Jan 29 with 1474 views | Simonds92 |
| Tyreece Simpson update on 10:55 - Jan 29 by xrayspecs |
Prem team. You are having a laugh. |
Wants to go and join Liam Gibbs apparently (from a nodge fan who has connections to Simpson, not sure if he's winding me up or serious) | | | |
| Tyreece Simpson update on 11:21 - Jan 29 with 1466 views | LeoMuff |
| Tyreece Simpson update on 11:16 - Jan 29 by LeoMuff |
Only seen highlights but looks fast, strong, good touch and finish and 18/19 years old banging in goals in league 2, would be amazed if prem clubs haven’t had a look. |
For comparison Assombalonga was 1 year older when he scored 15 in 43 in league 2, earned him £1.5 m move to Peterborough. The. Scored 15in champ next season ending in £5m move. | |
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| Tyreece Simpson update on 11:28 - Jan 29 with 1449 views | xrayspecs |
| Tyreece Simpson update on 11:21 - Jan 29 by LeoMuff |
For comparison Assombalonga was 1 year older when he scored 15 in 43 in league 2, earned him £1.5 m move to Peterborough. The. Scored 15in champ next season ending in £5m move. |
And Peterborough were a premier league club? | | | |
| Tyreece Simpson update on 11:29 - Jan 29 with 1445 views | xrayspecs |
| Tyreece Simpson update on 11:13 - Jan 29 by itfcjoe |
Why? |
Because he is not good enough.
Know some Swindon fans, describe him as very raw, a poor mans Akinfenwa.
Not saying that clubs may look at him, but he is not a Prem League player | | | |
| Tyreece Simpson update on 11:33 - Jan 29 with 1430 views | FoghornGleghorn |
| Tyreece Simpson update on 11:29 - Jan 29 by xrayspecs |
Because he is not good enough.
Know some Swindon fans, describe him as very raw, a poor mans Akinfenwa.
Not saying that clubs may look at him, but he is not a Prem League player |
As everybody knows, every footballer that's ever been contracted to any club ever to have been in the Premier League is absolutely phenomenal at football. | | | |
| Tyreece Simpson update on 11:35 - Jan 29 with 1417 views | itfcjoe |
| Tyreece Simpson update on 11:29 - Jan 29 by xrayspecs |
Because he is not good enough.
Know some Swindon fans, describe him as very raw, a poor mans Akinfenwa.
Not saying that clubs may look at him, but he is not a Prem League player |
No one thinks he is yet, but doing what he is doing at his age is going to get you noticed. He’s guaranteed to get at least a loan into L1 next season, if PL clubs could snap him up cheaply there would be lots of takers. | |
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| Tyreece Simpson update on 11:42 - Jan 29 with 1372 views | pointofblue |
| Tyreece Simpson update on 10:47 - Jan 28 by abracaDOBRA_ |
Seems to be the in thing for young footballers. Remember Dobra doing it, and Wolfy has done it this season as well. ITFC out his bio and only has Swindon town pictures on his feed, also doesn't follow the club. Presume from when Cook wasn't picking him.
All a bit weird and petty, but they all do it. |
From memory, someone in the know - Joe? - said Woolfenden was basically being forced out of the club by Cook until someone pointed out we needed a youth player in the squad to aid regulations. He was treated as a beneficial spare part so I can see why he got annoyed. | |
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| Tyreece Simpson update on 11:42 - Jan 29 with 1371 views | Darth_Koont |
| Tyreece Simpson update on 11:33 - Jan 29 by FoghornGleghorn |
As everybody knows, every footballer that's ever been contracted to any club ever to have been in the Premier League is absolutely phenomenal at football. |
Indeed. But there’s also the fact that he’s a very rare specimen in football. Big, ULTRA strong, mobile and skilled enough too.
I’m guessing there aren’t many like that who come along based on the fact that I can’t think of many senior players even close to that. Akinfenwa, although he never really had the same pace and mobility as far as I know.
At 19 and successfully transitioning into senior football, I can see Simpson being an interesting and relatively cheap punt for a few clubs higher up. |  |
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| Tyreece Simpson update on 11:48 - Jan 29 with 1321 views | pointofblue |
It feels like the club want to take him out of the shop window.
“Right, you’ve had your time in the sun, it’s time for you to show some gratitude and allow us to protect the investment we’ve made in you. Sign the deal and you’ll continue to develop, perhaps we’ll allow you to return to Swindon. Don’t and we’ll see how you progress after 18 months in the U18 squad, or how many teams will even remember you exist”. | |
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| Tyreece Simpson update on 11:51 - Jan 29 with 1315 views | LeoMuff |
| Tyreece Simpson update on 11:28 - Jan 29 by xrayspecs |
And Peterborough were a premier league club? |
Talk about a pedant, they were in the championship which I believe is one level down from the premier league. Simpson being younger and scoring at the same rate or better means premier league clubs could well have made contact. | |
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| Tyreece Simpson update on 12:12 - Jan 29 with 1243 views | jayessess |
| Tyreece Simpson update on 10:55 - Jan 29 by xrayspecs |
Prem team. You are having a laugh. |
Swindon fans reckon he's improved very significantly whilst there and realistically any 19-year-old scoring a lot of goals in league football is going to generate some interest. IIRC he's the 2nd-top-scoring teenager in the entire EFL?
It is the only logical explanation for the contract intransigence. Swindon's interest wouldn't move the dial, he'd be far better off for his career signing a new contract here. No Championship club is going to spend a fee to bring him to their academy. | |
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| Tyreece Simpson update on 12:13 - Jan 29 with 1236 views | istanblue |
| Tyreece Simpson update on 10:23 - Jan 28 by Darth_Koont |
I sort of get it from Simpson’s perspective.
He had a successful taste of playing regularly but tying himself to Ipswich could well limit his chances and his career. At Town, he’d be down the pecking order and occasionally getting a start in the trophy or a place on the bench, and likely not even that if we get promoted in the next year or two.
I don’t blame Town either for wanting to protect an asset. Just that what’s best for Simpson and what’s best for Town are probably different now. It’s football and the other side of the coin of young players being released if they aren’t seen as useful or valuable – there’s no real loyalty then. |
Nah don't agree with that. How would signing a new deal limit his chances exactly? We currently have 4 strikers on our books, none of whom are guaranteed to be here next season:
Bonne - loanee who could go back to QPR or end up elsewhere
Pigott - Rumoured to be off in the summer
Norwood - Contract expires at end of the season and unsure if he'll be staying
Jackson - Contract expires at end of the season and unsure if he'll be staying
Assuming we stay down (which is the most likely scenario), Simpson would have a good chance to fight for a first team place here next season. If he signed a new deal and continued to impress at Swindon until the end of the season then he could come back and arguably make a push for the first team. |  | | |
| Tyreece Simpson update on 12:25 - Jan 29 with 1202 views | Darth_Koont |
| Tyreece Simpson update on 12:13 - Jan 29 by istanblue |
Nah don't agree with that. How would signing a new deal limit his chances exactly? We currently have 4 strikers on our books, none of whom are guaranteed to be here next season:
Bonne - loanee who could go back to QPR or end up elsewhere
Pigott - Rumoured to be off in the summer
Norwood - Contract expires at end of the season and unsure if he'll be staying
Jackson - Contract expires at end of the season and unsure if he'll be staying
Assuming we stay down (which is the most likely scenario), Simpson would have a good chance to fight for a first team place here next season. If he signed a new deal and continued to impress at Swindon until the end of the season then he could come back and arguably make a push for the first team. |
He might have a chance, certainly. But our budget in League One for players like Bonne and Pigott means he’s always likely to be down the pecking order and probably just loaned out again.
And if we snatch promotion I’ll go out on a limb and say he’s not getting any pitch time at all with us.
For the club, he is valuable as an asset but not particularly usable. And if we progress as we want to over the 2 or 3 years he’ll likely be a little behind what we need, and thus what he needs for his own career progression.
It happens. But I don’t blame the club for looking out for its own interests and ditto for Simpson and his interests. | |
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