| Russian War Protesters 19:16 - Mar 13 with 2469 views | Churchman |
According to the BBC, 800 were arrested today in Russia. Just how brave are those people? I just can’t imagine what level of courage of convictions and strength you need to do what they are doing when you know the outcome is going to be at best dreadful.
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| Russian War Protesters on 20:15 - Mar 13 with 2064 views | blueasfook |
Worth bearing in mind though that the overwhelming majority of Russian people support the war, sorry special military operation, in Ukraine. Putin's popularity went up in the early days of the Invasion. It's been drummed into them since 2014 that Ukraine needs to be liberated from Nazis. This is why sanctions are so important. Once the ordinary citizens of Russia experience financial pain, their unwavering support for Vlad may begin to falter. |  |
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| Russian War Protesters on 20:25 - Mar 13 with 2016 views | chicoazul |
Potential Penalty for protesting in Russia - 7 years in jail
Potential penalty for protesting in UK - 10 years in jail |  |
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| Russian War Protesters on 20:33 - Mar 13 with 1987 views | Churchman |
| Russian War Protesters on 20:15 - Mar 13 by blueasfook |
Worth bearing in mind though that the overwhelming majority of Russian people support the war, sorry special military operation, in Ukraine. Putin's popularity went up in the early days of the Invasion. It's been drummed into them since 2014 that Ukraine needs to be liberated from Nazis. This is why sanctions are so important. Once the ordinary citizens of Russia experience financial pain, their unwavering support for Vlad may begin to falter. |
Absolutely. Putin must be one of the most popular leaders in the world. His words are believed without question.
It’s partly what makes the actions of these protestors all the more remarkable. | | | |
| Russian War Protesters on 20:35 - Mar 13 with 1955 views | Bent_double |
| Russian War Protesters on 20:25 - Mar 13 by chicoazul |
Potential Penalty for protesting in Russia - 7 years in jail
Potential penalty for protesting in UK - 10 years in jail |
Chance of a fair trial in the UK - High
Chance of a fair trial in Russia - go figure. |  |
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| Russian War Protesters on 20:37 - Mar 13 with 1952 views | blueasfook |
| Russian War Protesters on 20:33 - Mar 13 by Churchman |
Absolutely. Putin must be one of the most popular leaders in the world. His words are believed without question.
It’s partly what makes the actions of these protestors all the more remarkable. |
Yes brave people I agree. Most of them will be off for a spell in a gulag I expect.
I wonder if most ordinary Russian folk even realise whats really going on in Ukraine outside of the Kremlin controlled Orwellian bubble they live in | |
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| Russian War Protesters on 20:40 - Mar 13 with 1904 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Russian War Protesters on 20:37 - Mar 13 by blueasfook |
Yes brave people I agree. Most of them will be off for a spell in a gulag I expect.
I wonder if most ordinary Russian folk even realise whats really going on in Ukraine outside of the Kremlin controlled Orwellian bubble they live in |
No, they (mostly?) don't have a clue. I've a Ukrainian colleague from the Crimea with family in both Russia and the Ukraine. She's hearing different sides to the story from each country, and surprisingly doesn't know who to believe despite it being pretty obvious Russia have invaded. The power of propaganda. |  |
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| Russian War Protesters on 20:43 - Mar 13 with 1869 views | Rob88 |
| Russian War Protesters on 20:25 - Mar 13 by chicoazul |
Potential Penalty for protesting in Russia - 7 years in jail
Potential penalty for protesting in UK - 10 years in jail |
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| Russian War Protesters on 20:44 - Mar 13 with 1872 views | blueasfook |
| Russian War Protesters on 20:40 - Mar 13 by Swansea_Blue |
No, they (mostly?) don't have a clue. I've a Ukrainian colleague from the Crimea with family in both Russia and the Ukraine. She's hearing different sides to the story from each country, and surprisingly doesn't know who to believe despite it being pretty obvious Russia have invaded. The power of propaganda. |
They must realise something isn't right with all the western companies pulling out. Unless they're being told the whole of the western world has turned Nazi | |
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| Russian War Protesters on 20:48 - Mar 13 with 1841 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
I read one source which said 13,000 Russians had been arrested to date for protesting - they must be running out of jail cells
Fair play to them - I hope it ends with them overthrowing the steroid addled midget. | | | |
| Russian War Protesters on 20:51 - Mar 13 with 1821 views | Bent_double |
| Russian War Protesters on 20:44 - Mar 13 by blueasfook |
They must realise something isn't right with all the western companies pulling out. Unless they're being told the whole of the western world has turned Nazi |
They're probably being told that western companies are pulling out in preparation for an all-out attack on Russia by the evil NATO empire that wants to destroy them once and for all and steal all the oil and gas. | |
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| Russian War Protesters on 20:57 - Mar 13 with 1792 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Russian War Protesters on 20:44 - Mar 13 by blueasfook |
They must realise something isn't right with all the western companies pulling out. Unless they're being told the whole of the western world has turned Nazi |
I think those who have access to non-Russian media are well aware.
Someone I know was in Helsinki last week and said that the station was full of Russians who had upped and left (she speaks a little Russian and could tell they’d packed up and left with no job or place to go!) | | | |
| Russian War Protesters on 21:07 - Mar 13 with 1754 views | jeera |
| Russian War Protesters on 20:48 - Mar 13 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
I read one source which said 13,000 Russians had been arrested to date for protesting - they must be running out of jail cells
Fair play to them - I hope it ends with them overthrowing the steroid addled midget. |
"the steroid addled midget."
Dictators have feelings too you know! |  |
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| Russian War Protesters on 21:11 - Mar 13 with 1734 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Russian War Protesters on 21:07 - Mar 13 by jeera |
"the steroid addled midget."
Dictators have feelings too you know! |
Indeed - one for Harry10! | | | |
| Russian War Protesters on 21:25 - Mar 13 with 1695 views | Pendejo |
| Russian War Protesters on 20:25 - Mar 13 by chicoazul |
Potential Penalty for protesting in Russia - 7 years in jail
Potential penalty for protesting in UK - 10 years in jail |
Chances of drinking a cup of polonium tea after criticising government?
of the UK highly unlikely
Of Russia highly likely
Chances of falling out of a high window after criticising government?
Of the UK unlikely
Of Russia highly likely
Chances of receiving scent of Nichol after criticising government?
Of the UK unlikely
Of Russia highly likely
Don't know about that 7 v 10 years that you've mentioned, it seems to me the stakes are much higher when opposing a nuke toting megalomaniac. |  |
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| Russian War Protesters on 21:55 - Mar 13 with 1638 views | TractorWood |
| Russian War Protesters on 21:25 - Mar 13 by Pendejo |
Chances of drinking a cup of polonium tea after criticising government?
of the UK highly unlikely
Of Russia highly likely
Chances of falling out of a high window after criticising government?
Of the UK unlikely
Of Russia highly likely
Chances of receiving scent of Nichol after criticising government?
Of the UK unlikely
Of Russia highly likely
Don't know about that 7 v 10 years that you've mentioned, it seems to me the stakes are much higher when opposing a nuke toting megalomaniac. |
That which is necessary, is legal.
Hence why the Gov's heavy handed approach to the Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill 2021is so universally unpopular.
Russia is a police state though under Putin. I really hope anyone arrested is fully exonerated when Putin crumbles, which will hopefully be extremely soon. |  |
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| Russian War Protesters on 22:01 - Mar 13 with 1623 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Russian War Protesters on 20:44 - Mar 13 by blueasfook |
They must realise something isn't right with all the western companies pulling out. Unless they're being told the whole of the western world has turned Nazi |
They must do. Russians we know through my Mrs work all think Putin's a headcase. They're all academics though who get to escape and see the rest of the world. | |
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| Russian War Protesters on 22:38 - Mar 13 with 1557 views | chicoazul |
| Russian War Protesters on 21:25 - Mar 13 by Pendejo |
Chances of drinking a cup of polonium tea after criticising government?
of the UK highly unlikely
Of Russia highly likely
Chances of falling out of a high window after criticising government?
Of the UK unlikely
Of Russia highly likely
Chances of receiving scent of Nichol after criticising government?
Of the UK unlikely
Of Russia highly likely
Don't know about that 7 v 10 years that you've mentioned, it seems to me the stakes are much higher when opposing a nuke toting megalomaniac. |
Chances of drinking a cup of etc etc
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Kelly_(weapons_expert) | |
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| Russian War Protesters on 07:08 - Mar 14 with 1446 views | BlueBadger |
| Russian War Protesters on 22:01 - Mar 13 by Swansea_Blue |
They must do. Russians we know through my Mrs work all think Putin's a headcase. They're all academics though who get to escape and see the rest of the world. |
Or, as they're called here, 'the liberal elite'. |  |
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| Russian War Protesters on 13:12 - Mar 14 with 1266 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Russian War Protesters on 20:35 - Mar 13 by Bent_double |
Chance of a fair trial in the UK - High
Chance of a fair trial in Russia - go figure. |
A "Fair Trial" means the timely application of the Law without fear or favour, and with access to decent legal representation.
There is a massive backlog of trials, so the timely bit is in question.
There is massive underfunding of Legal Aid, and morale is very low in criminal law.
The recent anti-Protest clauses in the Policing Bill are such, though, that the bar is set incredibly low for conviction. Did you make a noise? Did somebody find the noise or your actions annoying? "Fair" application of these laws equals the outlawing of the right to protest. And look at how the Met policed the Sarah Everard vigil BEFORE this Bill had passed through Parliament for a flavour of how their new powers will be applied.
We aren't living in Russia. But we are moving in the direction of post-democratic autocracy. | | | |
| Russian War Protesters on 13:32 - Mar 14 with 1230 views | MalcolmBlue |
If Russia is so great why don't you live there |  |
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| Russian War Protesters on 13:54 - Mar 14 with 1188 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Russian War Protesters on 13:32 - Mar 14 by MalcolmBlue |
If Russia is so great why don't you live there |
He does - on a troll farm in Smolensk. | | | |
| Russian War Protesters on 19:40 - Mar 14 with 1080 views | Steve_M |
And another:
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| Russian War Protesters on 19:50 - Mar 14 with 1052 views | jeera |
| Russian War Protesters on 19:40 - Mar 14 by Steve_M |
And another:
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Yeah I just saw that on Ch.4 news.
I'd like to know what it says though, (sorry if there's a translation - the thing wont' load directly on this page for me).
So how's the Russian going nowadays Steve, or is it Comrade Steve?
I also saw Gove having a tantrum. I didn't realise he was 5. | |
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