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Just discovered this speech after seeing it linked on Twitter from yesterday. What does this sh1te even mean? The “Labour thinks Brexit is racist” routine is years old now and beyond that it seems the strategy is point and shout “woke” at everything they don’t like.
All cheered on by the member for Ipswich at the back of course. When some of these clowns lose their seats it’s going to be glorious.
State of some of these Tories on 10:14 - Mar 24 by lowhouseblue
"Not in denial.... Kremlin gold paid for Quislings to undermine our lovely country" !! errrr....
alternatively, a majority of those who voted, for reasons you disagree with, democratically chose to leave. you disagree but your arguments were not supported by most people who voted.
you see, that's the acceptance stage.
They've all gone very quiet about the benefits they are now reaping. You see, that's why remainers are still angry, the leave voters had no idea what they were voting for. Of course, we all know the main reason they voted leave but they'll never admit to it.
State of some of these Tories on 10:18 - Mar 24 by noggin
They've all gone very quiet about the benefits they are now reaping. You see, that's why remainers are still angry, the leave voters had no idea what they were voting for. Of course, we all know the main reason they voted leave but they'll never admit to it.
and so we reach the central tragedy of modern uk politics - the political left has seething hatred for the people it needs to vote for it.
And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show
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State of some of these Tories on 10:24 - Mar 24 with 926 views
State of some of these Tories on 10:14 - Mar 24 by lowhouseblue
"Not in denial.... Kremlin gold paid for Quislings to undermine our lovely country" !! errrr....
alternatively, a majority of those who voted, for reasons you disagree with, democratically chose to leave. you disagree but your arguments were not supported by most people who voted.
you see, that's the acceptance stage.
The people get the government they deserve, but it is perfectly reasonable to accept the result whilst still thinking it stupid.
It is what it is, but it is seriously damaging, and much more damaging than it needed to be. It is very important that we continue to try to mitigate the damage as much as we can, without denying the vote.
However, I must admit that I think that the country is now completely stuffed, economically for certain, socially for certain, constitutionally almost for certain, longer term.
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State of some of these Tories on 10:25 - Mar 24 with 923 views
State of some of these Tories on 10:03 - Mar 24 by noggin
Were they wrong to expect some say in the details of the withdrawal?
Of course they should have expected a say in the details of the withdrawal. The reaction of many on the losing side greatly damaged their ability to influence the situation. I fail to see why that's such a controversial thing to say, given that it's so blindingly obvious.
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State of some of these Tories on 10:27 - Mar 24 with 907 views
State of some of these Tories on 10:26 - Mar 24 by Blueschev
Of course they should have expected a say in the details of the withdrawal. The reaction of many on the losing side greatly damaged their ability to influence the situation. I fail to see why that's such a controversial thing to say, given that it's so blindingly obvious.
So they are right to expect a say but wrong to ask for it?
State of some of these Tories on 10:18 - Mar 24 by noggin
They've all gone very quiet about the benefits they are now reaping. You see, that's why remainers are still angry, the leave voters had no idea what they were voting for. Of course, we all know the main reason they voted leave but they'll never admit to it.
You seem to be confusing respecting the result of the referendum with thinking that Brexit was a good idea.
Respecting the result would have enabled those who believed it was a bad idea to influence the manner in which we left, therefore reducing the negative impact on the country. Calling for a vote to overturn the first because they didn't like the outcome made the opposition look little more than anti-democratic saboteurs, which is exactly how Johnson et al successfully portrayed them.
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State of some of these Tories on 10:37 - Mar 24 with 835 views
State of some of these Tories on 10:32 - Mar 24 by Blueschev
You seem to be confusing respecting the result of the referendum with thinking that Brexit was a good idea.
Respecting the result would have enabled those who believed it was a bad idea to influence the manner in which we left, therefore reducing the negative impact on the country. Calling for a vote to overturn the first because they didn't like the outcome made the opposition look little more than anti-democratic saboteurs, which is exactly how Johnson et al successfully portrayed them.
Brexit doesn't really affect me but if I lived in the UK, I definitely would not respect the result of a vote won on the back of lies and falsehoods. Call me petty but that isn't democracy.
State of some of these Tories on 09:31 - Mar 24 by lowhouseblue
as someone who voted remain, the remainer response in parliament to losing the referendum stands out as one of the most extreme political own goals of all time. they made brexit worse and they greased a path for boris to slide in on. they never got past the denial and anger stages of grief. they expressed contempt for the people who voted leave, seemingly forgetting that an election could be only months away and the leavers were a majority. it was political self-harm.
That's all a bit too simplistic. The 75 Tory rebels in the second reading of May's deal were key to this, as the Tories had the majority to 'get Brexit done' at that point. Staying in the single market and customs union and therefore having to align to EU standards was never an option for the hard core Brexiteers who scuppered her deal, forced her out and are now fecking up the country. Corbyn's position on Brexit woefully inadequate for far too long, but at least they would have been expected to oppose. Labour didn't stab May in the back and undermine her from within - they were just useless.
State of some of these Tories on 10:32 - Mar 24 by Blueschev
You seem to be confusing respecting the result of the referendum with thinking that Brexit was a good idea.
Respecting the result would have enabled those who believed it was a bad idea to influence the manner in which we left, therefore reducing the negative impact on the country. Calling for a vote to overturn the first because they didn't like the outcome made the opposition look little more than anti-democratic saboteurs, which is exactly how Johnson et al successfully portrayed them.
Indeed. I didn’t want to think it at the time but in retrospect the Brexit referendum and aftermath couldn’t have been worse in terms of outcome for the UK if people had actively tried to make it a disaster.
The way the ultra-Remainers handled it was every bit as bad as the ultra-Brexiteers.
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State of some of these Tories on 10:41 - Mar 24 with 771 views
State of some of these Tories on 10:39 - Mar 24 by Swansea_Blue
That's all a bit too simplistic. The 75 Tory rebels in the second reading of May's deal were key to this, as the Tories had the majority to 'get Brexit done' at that point. Staying in the single market and customs union and therefore having to align to EU standards was never an option for the hard core Brexiteers who scuppered her deal, forced her out and are now fecking up the country. Corbyn's position on Brexit woefully inadequate for far too long, but at least they would have been expected to oppose. Labour didn't stab May in the back and undermine her from within - they were just useless.
Had the opposition voted with May then they would have had a majority. The likes of Kinnock and and Snell have said that they should have done.
State of some of these Tories on 09:50 - Mar 24 by EdwardStone
Two pertinent facts that informed the Remainer's fury
The amount of lies from the Brexiteers....
The "win" was a wafer thin majority....if that buffoon Cameron had any wisdom in his pea-sized brain he would have set the percentage at "significant majority" of 60% or "super majority" of 66% because of the ramifications of our departure
I think Remainer fury is understandable and forgivable
Quite right, but that's the least of it.
Cameron was responsible too for the shambolic "remain" campaign which failed to register any positive arguments for staying in the EU at all. All I can remember him saying was that if we leave they won't let us back in - of no interest to Brexiters and untrue anyway.
Less is more.
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State of some of these Tories on 10:46 - Mar 24 with 743 views
State of some of these Tories on 10:41 - Mar 24 by GlasgowBlue
Had the opposition voted with May then they would have had a majority. The likes of Kinnock and and Snell have said that they should have done.
Yeah of course. It's too simplistic to sloley/mostly blame the opposition though due to the intransigence of the rebels within the Tory party. She wasn't anywhere near strong enough to deal with he ERG and effectively lost her party.
State of some of these Tories on 10:37 - Mar 24 by noggin
Brexit doesn't really affect me but if I lived in the UK, I definitely would not respect the result of a vote won on the back of lies and falsehoods. Call me petty but that isn't democracy.
The referendum was stupid, and should never have taken place in the first place. But it did, and leave won. Calling for another referendum because they didn't like the outcome of the first was a damaging and foolhardy strategy, which backfired catastrophically and contributed to the election of the worst government we've ever had.
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State of some of these Tories on 10:50 - Mar 24 with 722 views
State of some of these Tories on 10:47 - Mar 24 by Blueschev
The referendum was stupid, and should never have taken place in the first place. But it did, and leave won. Calling for another referendum because they didn't like the outcome of the first was a damaging and foolhardy strategy, which backfired catastrophically and contributed to the election of the worst government we've ever had.
Calling out the opposition for the worst government we've ever had seems quite ridiculous to me but hey ho, like I said, I don't have to live with the outcome.
State of some of these Tories on 10:50 - Mar 24 by noggin
Calling out the opposition for the worst government we've ever had seems quite ridiculous to me but hey ho, like I said, I don't have to live with the outcome.
He’s not calling out the opposition for the worst government we’ve ever had. He is explaining one of the contributing factors to how we got here and how that could have been avoided.
State of some of these Tories on 10:47 - Mar 24 by Blueschev
The referendum was stupid, and should never have taken place in the first place. But it did, and leave won. Calling for another referendum because they didn't like the outcome of the first was a damaging and foolhardy strategy, which backfired catastrophically and contributed to the election of the worst government we've ever had.
I don’t think that was all that accidental either. One of the major “beneficial” effects of the People’s Vote campaign and its proponents within Labour was to sabotage Corbyn’s leadership and hamstring Labour’s electoral chances.
It doesn’t take much of a leap to understand that Change UK for example were much happier to see Johnson rather than Corbyn in power. Corbyn wanted to end their access to the gravy train whether in government or opposition.
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State of some of these Tories on 10:58 - Mar 24 with 705 views
State of some of these Tories on 10:50 - Mar 24 by noggin
Calling out the opposition for the worst government we've ever had seems quite ridiculous to me but hey ho, like I said, I don't have to live with the outcome.
It astonishes me that people seem to be wilfully ignorant to the damage the "People's Vote" campaign had on the opposition and played a part in enabling this awful government.
I hate the Tories and everything they stand for, but if the left continue to live in denial about their our) own shortcomings then we'll never get these bastards out of power.
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State of some of these Tories on 11:01 - Mar 24 with 693 views
State of some of these Tories on 09:56 - Mar 24 by MattinLondon
Wasn’t a pop or a dig or a poke at you. Don’t know why you think that to be honest as you’re not the only poster on here. But your self-importance is a matter for yourself.
Arf. Nailed it.
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State of some of these Tories on 11:16 - Mar 24 with 653 views
State of some of these Tories on 10:41 - Mar 24 by GlasgowBlue
Had the opposition voted with May then they would have had a majority. The likes of Kinnock and and Snell have said that they should have done.
exactly, there was a parliamentary majority to get may's deal through, but the remainer tory rebels, and the remainer labour and lib opposition misplayed their hand entirely and undermined it ushering something much worse. a politically self destructive act.
And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show
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State of some of these Tories on 11:27 - Mar 24 with 603 views
State of some of these Tories on 10:14 - Mar 24 by lowhouseblue
"Not in denial.... Kremlin gold paid for Quislings to undermine our lovely country" !! errrr....
alternatively, a majority of those who voted, for reasons you disagree with, democratically chose to leave. you disagree but your arguments were not supported by most people who voted.
you see, that's the acceptance stage.
You see the thing is, I have no problem with Brexit per se, what I have a problem with is the people who supported Brexit keep blaming those who didn't support Brexit for all the failures of Brexit, which were pointed out, quite clearly, at the time - the people who supported Brexit, and who won't own that decision, are also in denial - it doesn't help that we have possibly one of the most incompetent governments ever actually trying (or in reality, not really bothering) to mitigate the worst effects of it. So when people who voted Remain, but say well, let's try and minimise the harm of Brexit by doing X, Y or Z, they are regarded as Brexit saboteurs.
It's like the people who won, want to keep winning, rather than do any actual hard work to optimally implement Brexit, and by wanting to keep winning, they have to keep creating imaginary enemies, which they then waste energy fighting, and is actively harming the country they claim to love...either by design or incompetence, or a combination of both...
You are the obsolete SRN4 to my Fairey Rotodyne....
State of some of these Tories on 09:31 - Mar 24 by lowhouseblue
as someone who voted remain, the remainer response in parliament to losing the referendum stands out as one of the most extreme political own goals of all time. they made brexit worse and they greased a path for boris to slide in on. they never got past the denial and anger stages of grief. they expressed contempt for the people who voted leave, seemingly forgetting that an election could be only months away and the leavers were a majority. it was political self-harm.
That's the line that Putin wants peddled.
Well done. You'll have a regular slot on RT.
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State of some of these Tories on 11:32 - Mar 24 with 566 views
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