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Can we nip these odd Tyreece Simpson narratives in the bud pls 13:14 - Apr 22 with 6784 viewsBobbychase

Correct me if I'm wrong. There may be stuff going on behind the scenes, but here are the facts.

1 We scout him, a promising rugby player, and sign him into our Academy
2 We coach him to be a footballer and provide him with accommodation, contract etc.
3 We choose Swindon Town as a good place for him to develop as a player, presumably based on the football they play,/coaching reputation etc.
4 He has a promising first half of the season in League Two, so we recall him to preserve OUR asset who WE discovered and pay the wages of.
5 He or his agent decide they don't want to stay at ITFC and things fall apart.

With that in mind, I am finding some criticism of the club baffling. Are we supposed to just roll over with every player? And please, I've seen a couple of references to this being like Rhodes and Wickham. I know people who are Swindon season ticket holders and saw most of his games. They were impressed with his pace and speed but not his finishing or control, and would be amazed if he went to a Championship club. Rhodes and Wickham were very special players and everybody knew that. Wickham in particular had proved himself against Championship defences. Simpson's work has all been in League Two.

I'm really not sure what else the club could have done.
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Can we nip these odd Tyreece Simpson narratives in the bud pls on 19:47 - Apr 22 with 553 viewsVeggie

Can we nip these odd Tyreece Simpson narratives in the bud pls on 19:24 - Apr 22 by FoghornGleghorn

Was it not the case that he was refusing to even speak to the club about a potential new deal when he was at Swindon? Pretty sure that's what was reported - and that being the case, if he's not going to pay us, his employer, enough respect to even hear us out, we're not obliged to let him spend the rest of his contract something that will benefit him and him alone.


His agent is the same company used by Mesut Ozil. Read into that what you will.

http://famandfoot.com/
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Can we nip these odd Tyreece Simpson narratives in the bud pls on 20:36 - Apr 22 with 509 viewsviewfromtheu2

Believe the agent instigated the recall in order to negotiate a new deal.

Deal offered but not accepted.

Tough luck really.

All the best!

@BonoITFC

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Can we nip these odd Tyreece Simpson narratives in the bud pls on 21:09 - Apr 22 with 475 viewsJimmy86

Can we nip these odd Tyreece Simpson narratives in the bud pls on 14:56 - Apr 22 by PhilTWTD

Don't think his sights are set that high but higher than he has been offered.


To be honest, other than a decent loan spell at a club a league below us, what has he done, realistically, in a town shirt to warrant this inflated opinion of himself as to where he sees his place at the club?! He's not a senior first team player is he?! He's an U23 striker...
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Can we nip these odd Tyreece Simpson narratives in the bud pls on 09:29 - Apr 23 with 366 viewssouthnorfolkblue

Can we nip these odd Tyreece Simpson narratives in the bud pls on 15:25 - Apr 22 by itfcjoe

Just listened to a YT video with Stu Watson and he seems to think that the young player contracts are a bit all over the place and Ashton is trying to bring it into a more standardised structure.

Ultimately that doesn't currently help Simpson if he wants to be paid what his cohorts like Dobra, El Miz and Ndaba here are earning, and has every right to expect that.

If we lose one promising youth player every season over this, then we aren't getting it right though so hopefully there isn't anyone else we struggle to tie down - I note Tawanda Chirewa is out of contract this summer


I listened to that as well. Whilst I understand the logic of wanted to standardise contracts at a lower level, the danger must be that we will alienate the better players, who will be advised that they can get better deals elsewhere. I fear that trying to create a rigid structure will lead to further examples of this happening.

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Can we nip these odd Tyreece Simpson narratives in the bud pls on 13:27 - Apr 23 with 300 viewsDarth_Koont

Can we nip these odd Tyreece Simpson narratives in the bud pls on 13:18 - Apr 22 by itfcjoe

All we ever did to 'help' him was to help the football club first and foremost - it wasn't a charity venture that we took some poor kid on to try and help him become a footballer.

The relationship between football club and footballer is and always will be almost totally tranactional - the difference is the club has apublic platform to set the narrative and a fan base willing to parrot it.


Agreed.

It’s a business relationship first and foremost for both parties. And if Simpson wasn’t seen as an asset he’d have been fairly unceremoniously released as the majority of young players are.

Sometimes the player holds some of the cards themselves. We need to just deal with it – and maybe question what we could have done better (if anything). I suspect we’ll have this problem more and more as the club’s ambitions start to get met. And the route to the first team will get narrower and narrower even for other prospects we might rate even higher than Simpson.

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