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Can't say I'm surprised as bar Root, he is the only name you can guarantee on the team sheet right now with the experience to do it. Can only hope it doesn't burn him out.
Yes, the last is highly likely though. I very much hope he doesn't go down the Flintoff route of overbowling himself too but then I think he's a little more astute than Freddie.
First Test is only a month away, I wonder if it will still be worth watching by Day 3 at Lord's....
I really worry we are burdening him with too much. He's such a talented cricketer one of those players like Botham or Flintoff that when they are in the mood can turn a game and take it away from the opposition, but are the ECB expecting too much? After all, it wasn't long ago that he was suffering physically and mentally and now he's been given the England captaincy.
I really worry we are burdening him with too much. He's such a talented cricketer one of those players like Botham or Flintoff that when they are in the mood can turn a game and take it away from the opposition, but are the ECB expecting too much? After all, it wasn't long ago that he was suffering physically and mentally and now he's been given the England captaincy.
I wonder if they give him two years maximum - then he may have a couple more as a player, even just as a specialist batsman. It gives breathing space to the ECB. Word is he’s keen to have Anderson and Broad back, who’ll take some of the leadership pressure off, plus I think they’ll respect him and his decisions.
I wonder if they give him two years maximum - then he may have a couple more as a player, even just as a specialist batsman. It gives breathing space to the ECB. Word is he’s keen to have Anderson and Broad back, who’ll take some of the leadership pressure off, plus I think they’ll respect him and his decisions.
I wonder if they give him two years maximum - then he may have a couple more as a player, even just as a specialist batsman. It gives breathing space to the ECB. Word is he’s keen to have Anderson and Broad back, who’ll take some of the leadership pressure off, plus I think they’ll respect him and his decisions.
I think that's a great point. Stokes in nearly 31 & in Test terms, has become a batsman who can bowl, rather than a genuine all rounder. That's a pity from a point of view of the balance of England's Test XI as he was a more than capable 3rd seamer. However, it takes a bit of the pressure off him as captain. My worry is how he might handle all the media stuff & constant intrusion, which Root actually did pretty well. However, I think Stokes is a stop-gap captain given his age & I'd expect him to retire from first class cricket in a couple of years & concentrate on 20/20.
Have they said who will be Captain in the 50% of games he will miss through injury?
Not knocking him personally, but surely a pre-requisite for a Test Captain is "Likely to be fit and in form for the First Test of a series"? And you can't say that about Stokes.
Not that I am full of ideas for alternatives!
I think there are probably only about 6 players that I would be happy to put on the Team Sheet for the next Test, and a couple of them would have "If fit" in brackets alongside.
We have to go back to Anderson and Broad, who are excellent in English conditions, but that is a clear demonstration that others haven't taken the opportunity (Woakes, sadly, although he is excellent in Emglish conditions) or have broken down (Archer, to give one amongst many).
The bottom line is that we should stop this ridiculous practice of turning up in a country and playing a Test Match a few days later. Take tours seriously and have proper warm up games.
Stokes it is then. on 12:25 - Apr 28 by ArnoldMoorhen
Have they said who will be Captain in the 50% of games he will miss through injury?
Not knocking him personally, but surely a pre-requisite for a Test Captain is "Likely to be fit and in form for the First Test of a series"? And you can't say that about Stokes.
Not that I am full of ideas for alternatives!
I think there are probably only about 6 players that I would be happy to put on the Team Sheet for the next Test, and a couple of them would have "If fit" in brackets alongside.
We have to go back to Anderson and Broad, who are excellent in English conditions, but that is a clear demonstration that others haven't taken the opportunity (Woakes, sadly, although he is excellent in Emglish conditions) or have broken down (Archer, to give one amongst many).
The bottom line is that we should stop this ridiculous practice of turning up in a country and playing a Test Match a few days later. Take tours seriously and have proper warm up games.
Stokes it is then. on 12:25 - Apr 28 by ArnoldMoorhen
Have they said who will be Captain in the 50% of games he will miss through injury?
Not knocking him personally, but surely a pre-requisite for a Test Captain is "Likely to be fit and in form for the First Test of a series"? And you can't say that about Stokes.
Not that I am full of ideas for alternatives!
I think there are probably only about 6 players that I would be happy to put on the Team Sheet for the next Test, and a couple of them would have "If fit" in brackets alongside.
We have to go back to Anderson and Broad, who are excellent in English conditions, but that is a clear demonstration that others haven't taken the opportunity (Woakes, sadly, although he is excellent in Emglish conditions) or have broken down (Archer, to give one amongst many).
The bottom line is that we should stop this ridiculous practice of turning up in a country and playing a Test Match a few days later. Take tours seriously and have proper warm up games.
We've tried a spinner who can bat a bit - Dom Bess - & he doesn't look likely to take Test wickets. Leach seems to be the best we have & he isn't a hopeless batsman. Woakes is effective in England & can bat, but is 33 so doesn't look like a long term replacement for Anderson or Broad. The younger bowlers haven't impressed much so dropping Anderson & Broad is now looking foolish. That having been said, the batting is the big problem & hard to look beyond some of the younger players who have actually been making runs in County cricket. I think Stokes is only going to be 4th seamer so I don't think his physical fitness is a big risk.
Stokes it is then. on 12:49 - Apr 28 by Radlett_blue
We've tried a spinner who can bat a bit - Dom Bess - & he doesn't look likely to take Test wickets. Leach seems to be the best we have & he isn't a hopeless batsman. Woakes is effective in England & can bat, but is 33 so doesn't look like a long term replacement for Anderson or Broad. The younger bowlers haven't impressed much so dropping Anderson & Broad is now looking foolish. That having been said, the batting is the big problem & hard to look beyond some of the younger players who have actually been making runs in County cricket. I think Stokes is only going to be 4th seamer so I don't think his physical fitness is a big risk.
Hoping for a Swann - been a bit beyond us since he retired. Shame Rashid couldn’t play more red ball, think he’s shoulders have troubled him.
Hoping for a Swann - been a bit beyond us since he retired. Shame Rashid couldn’t play more red ball, think he’s shoulders have troubled him.
Swann made a huge difference, helped also by the introduction of DRS, which changed how batsmen played spin. I doubt a fully fit Rashid would have had much impact on Test cricket in England - it's been a wrist spin bowler's graveyard for years, apart from the phenomenal Shane Warne. Rashid took 60 Test wickets at nearly 40 a pop, which is nowhere near good enough. Hence I very much doubt Parkinson is the answer, although it was folly not to give him a Test in the Windies.
Terrible idea. This will be a disaster. He won’t last more than a year or so.
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Yes, the last is highly likely though. I very much hope he doesn't go down the Flintoff route of overbowling himself too but then I think he's a little more astute than Freddie.
First Test is only a month away, I wonder if it will still be worth watching by Day 3 at Lord's....
Im not convinced he is, he went through the West Indies series telling the press corp there he didnt understand why people kept telling him to rest from bowling, whilst carrying an injury, which he then made worse by bowling, which ironically I think was how he picked up the latest injury in Australia in the first place.
with Flintoff I think he was smart enough to know not to overbowl but often had little choice but to, Stokes has the same choice to make, but hasnt shown he knows how to play within himself yet, which is why he is such an explosive player, he always gives it full beans.
but I can see him being forced to quit within 2 years,maybe just test cricket, maybe all forms, maybe thats enough time for someone else to step up in the team, who knows, but I think we are going to hear alot about congested fixtures and too many games in the calendar
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Stokes it is then. on 20:59 - Apr 28 with 1098 views
Im not convinced he is, he went through the West Indies series telling the press corp there he didnt understand why people kept telling him to rest from bowling, whilst carrying an injury, which he then made worse by bowling, which ironically I think was how he picked up the latest injury in Australia in the first place.
with Flintoff I think he was smart enough to know not to overbowl but often had little choice but to, Stokes has the same choice to make, but hasnt shown he knows how to play within himself yet, which is why he is such an explosive player, he always gives it full beans.
but I can see him being forced to quit within 2 years,maybe just test cricket, maybe all forms, maybe thats enough time for someone else to step up in the team, who knows, but I think we are going to hear alot about congested fixtures and too many games in the calendar
Flintoff's bowling action was made to create injuries - the position of his left foot in his delivery stride - Stokes action is much better.
Stokes has a much better cricket brain than any of Root/ Flintoff/ Botham - if they can keep him fit then I think he'll make a pretty good captain. England haven't had a decent captain since Nasser. Stokes could be in that league, although he doesn't have the core talent that was available to Nasser.
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Stokes it is then. on 21:51 - Apr 28 with 1072 views
Flintoff's bowling action was made to create injuries - the position of his left foot in his delivery stride - Stokes action is much better.
Stokes has a much better cricket brain than any of Root/ Flintoff/ Botham - if they can keep him fit then I think he'll make a pretty good captain. England haven't had a decent captain since Nasser. Stokes could be in that league, although he doesn't have the core talent that was available to Nasser.
Michael Vaughan and Cook both won the Ashes and made England one of the best test teams in the world are you mad.
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Michael Vaughan and Cook both won the Ashes and made England one of the best test teams in the world are you mad.
Sorry, forgot Vaughan.
Anyone that thinks Cook was a good captain knows nothing about cricket. He literally had players running off the field to ask the coach what he should do.
Bloody good test batsman though.
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Stokes it is then. on 22:13 - Apr 28 with 1047 views
Strauss was a good captain. However, he did have the fortune to have a lot of very good players at his disposal, including a batting line up we could only dream of now.
Stokes really has a job on to get a tune out of what he has to work with.
Flintoff's bowling action was made to create injuries - the position of his left foot in his delivery stride - Stokes action is much better.
Stokes has a much better cricket brain than any of Root/ Flintoff/ Botham - if they can keep him fit then I think he'll make a pretty good captain. England haven't had a decent captain since Nasser. Stokes could be in that league, although he doesn't have the core talent that was available to Nasser.
Disagree. Michael Vaughan was a very good England captain.
If Buttler had a successful Ashes series, he would of made an excellent alternative option.
With the next 50 over World cup just 12 months away, I wonder if Stokes will retire from that format after the tournament so he can fully focus on the captaincy.
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Stokes it is then. on 09:55 - Apr 29 with 952 views
So weird how he was an awful captain and we won all those games.
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Stokes it is then. on 09:48 - Apr 29 by Fenland_Blue
If Buttler had a successful Ashes series, he would of made an excellent alternative option.
With the next 50 over World cup just 12 months away, I wonder if Stokes will retire from that format after the tournament so he can fully focus on the captaincy.
I would expect Stokes to give up Test cricket within the next few years & focus on short forms, notably 20/20. Buttler may have made a capable captain, but the problem is that he shouldn't be in the England Test side. Foakes is a much better keeper & arguably as good a Test batsman.
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