| Van Dijk 12:53 - Apr 28 with 2948 views | RobTheMonk |
Best premier league centre back ever? If not, who would be your choice?
VVD is probably the best CB in world football at the moment as well. |  | | |  |
| Van Dijk on 13:00 - Apr 28 with 2049 views | BloomBlue |
Tony Adams |  | | |
| Van Dijk on 13:05 - Apr 28 with 2036 views | clive_baker |
Hard one really when you're comparing players across era's and when their careers aren't yet finished. Ultimately there are a lot where you can't really choose between them at that level, there has to be 10-20 you could make a case for. I don't like the bloke buy John Terry was a phenomenal defender, and did it year after year so at this stage has longevity in his favour. The only thing against VVD is he was 25 by the time he joined a top side. Terry was a regular at Chelsea by his early 20's and captaining them to the PL title while VVD was at Southampton at the same age. He's definitely made up for lost time though, and if he's won a few more trophies and titles in 5 years time then he would be hard to argue against. Quality player. |  |
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| Van Dijk on 13:09 - Apr 28 with 2016 views | RobTheMonk |
| Van Dijk on 13:05 - Apr 28 by clive_baker |
Hard one really when you're comparing players across era's and when their careers aren't yet finished. Ultimately there are a lot where you can't really choose between them at that level, there has to be 10-20 you could make a case for. I don't like the bloke buy John Terry was a phenomenal defender, and did it year after year so at this stage has longevity in his favour. The only thing against VVD is he was 25 by the time he joined a top side. Terry was a regular at Chelsea by his early 20's and captaining them to the PL title while VVD was at Southampton at the same age. He's definitely made up for lost time though, and if he's won a few more trophies and titles in 5 years time then he would be hard to argue against. Quality player. |
Agree with regards to John Terry. He was a staple of that Chelsea team. I think VVD makes defending look easy; he's also the main organiser of the back line for Liverpool.
Ledley King is one that's always mentioned by pros as being unbelievably good, but sadly wrecked by injuries.
As you say, there's a case for many and it will down to personal preference. | | | |
| Van Dijk on 13:50 - Apr 28 with 1933 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
IMO he is the best. Makes everything look easy. Walks in to every team in Prem History easily. |  |
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| Van Dijk on 13:51 - Apr 28 with 1925 views | BonneNIL |
John Wark |  |
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| Van Dijk on 13:58 - Apr 28 with 1915 views | BrianTablet |
Winston Bogarde |  |
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| Eddie Youds on 14:03 - Apr 28 with 1902 views | waveneyblue |
| Van Dijk on 13:00 - Apr 28 by BloomBlue |
Tony Adams |
Watching "live" at Portman Road - I would say Tony Adams - Effortless and total domination of whatever was in front of him.
Vincent Kompany is up there
But absolute best - Eddie Youds |  | | |
| Van Dijk on 14:06 - Apr 28 with 1893 views | chicoazul |
He’s only won the league once and it was an asterisk. Not in Rio Vidic Campbell or sadly Terry league. |  |
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| Eddie Youds on 14:24 - Apr 28 with 1842 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Eddie Youds on 14:03 - Apr 28 by waveneyblue |
Watching "live" at Portman Road - I would say Tony Adams - Effortless and total domination of whatever was in front of him.
Vincent Kompany is up there
But absolute best - Eddie Youds |
Kompany was phenomenal. I'd also add in Jaap Stam at his best.
And a throwback to the first Premier League season PFA Players Player of the Year: Paul McGrath. Absolutely incredible. And he, allegedly, did it pssed.
Des Walker had some sublime seasons, as well.
But Virgil Van Dijk is probably better than all of them, because he is a World Class Central Defender who is perfectly capable of playing in just about any outfield position on the pitch to international standard. |  | | |
| Van Dijk on 14:44 - Apr 28 with 1809 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Van Dijk on 14:06 - Apr 28 by chicoazul |
He’s only won the league once and it was an asterisk. Not in Rio Vidic Campbell or sadly Terry league. |
On accomplishments, nowhere near. On ability. I'm not sure what those players do better than VVD | |
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| Van Dijk on 14:54 - Apr 28 with 1790 views | BlueStreak |
Absolutely not. He isn't even in the top 5! One PL title...... nope
1 - Terry
2 - Vidic
3 - RIo
4 - Adams
5 - Campbell
6 - Kompany
Horrific statement |  | | |
| Van Dijk on 14:59 - Apr 28 with 1778 views | N2_Blue |
I'd say Vidic has to be up there if we are talking about defending and defending alone. |  |
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| Van Dijk on 14:59 - Apr 28 with 1776 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Van Dijk on 14:54 - Apr 28 by BlueStreak |
Absolutely not. He isn't even in the top 5! One PL title...... nope
1 - Terry
2 - Vidic
3 - RIo
4 - Adams
5 - Campbell
6 - Kompany
Horrific statement |
I ask the same question to you as I did to the person above.
Those players have won more. But are they better footballers than Van Dijk ? What do they do better than him ?
Kompany himself said that VVD was the best prem defender of all time. [Post edited 28 Apr 2022 15:01]
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| Van Dijk on 15:03 - Apr 28 with 1755 views | BlueStreak |
| Van Dijk on 14:59 - Apr 28 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
I ask the same question to you as I did to the person above.
Those players have won more. But are they better footballers than Van Dijk ? What do they do better than him ?
Kompany himself said that VVD was the best prem defender of all time. [Post edited 28 Apr 2022 15:01]
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Rio is twice the player VVD is for starters | | | |
| Van Dijk on 15:07 - Apr 28 with 1747 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Van Dijk on 15:03 - Apr 28 by BlueStreak |
Rio is twice the player VVD is for starters |
That's hyperbole if ever i have heard it. VVD just as quick or very similar, but stronger. Better in the air. Ferdinand was amazing. But if i could pick him or VVD for a one of game. VVD any day. [Post edited 28 Apr 2022 15:07]
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| Van Dijk on 15:12 - Apr 28 with 1720 views | BlueStreak |
| Van Dijk on 15:07 - Apr 28 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
That's hyperbole if ever i have heard it. VVD just as quick or very similar, but stronger. Better in the air. Ferdinand was amazing. But if i could pick him or VVD for a one of game. VVD any day. [Post edited 28 Apr 2022 15:07]
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Not in a million years. sorry but you are too engrossed with the modern game. Rio was an absolute baller
6 x PL over ten years
How about VVD gets to two and then have a discussion. I will give you a clue, rio and Vidic will still be ahead of him.
Finally, Rio is hardly going to say he would pick him ahead of someone else is he? | | | |
| Van Dijk on 15:21 - Apr 28 with 1712 views | OwainG1992 |
He's the best I've seen.
Leader, defender, good on the ball.
He's tremendous.
Vidic and Ferdinand best of the rest for me. |  |
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| Van Dijk on 15:27 - Apr 28 with 1702 views | mylittletown |
| Van Dijk on 15:12 - Apr 28 by BlueStreak |
Not in a million years. sorry but you are too engrossed with the modern game. Rio was an absolute baller
6 x PL over ten years
How about VVD gets to two and then have a discussion. I will give you a clue, rio and Vidic will still be ahead of him.
Finally, Rio is hardly going to say he would pick him ahead of someone else is he? |
All this stuff about how many titles etc is just nonsense. On that basis, Alan Shearer and Gary Lineker weren't very good, and Alan Smith was as good as Shearer and better than Lineker.
Kevin Beattie would have been really rubbish, as would Mariner.
Terry was a very good Premiership defender, but Champions League and international sides used to target him, because he was easy to pull out of position, and was slow on the turn. cf England Germany in the 2010 World Cup where, Thomas Muller and the Germans made him look a clown, and the Barcelona Champions League semi-final in 2012, when he was out of his depth and got sent off.
VVD is a different class than Terry, as was Ferdinand. |  | | |
| Van Dijk on 15:31 - Apr 28 with 1690 views | BlueStreak |
| Van Dijk on 15:27 - Apr 28 by mylittletown |
All this stuff about how many titles etc is just nonsense. On that basis, Alan Shearer and Gary Lineker weren't very good, and Alan Smith was as good as Shearer and better than Lineker.
Kevin Beattie would have been really rubbish, as would Mariner.
Terry was a very good Premiership defender, but Champions League and international sides used to target him, because he was easy to pull out of position, and was slow on the turn. cf England Germany in the 2010 World Cup where, Thomas Muller and the Germans made him look a clown, and the Barcelona Champions League semi-final in 2012, when he was out of his depth and got sent off.
VVD is a different class than Terry, as was Ferdinand. |
How is it nonsense? Do you think you can be a winner of league that many times by being average? Fashionable yes but he still isn't in the top 5.
He has won the league once ffs, have a day off. | | | |
| Van Dijk on 15:54 - Apr 28 with 1669 views | rickw |
| Van Dijk on 14:06 - Apr 28 by chicoazul |
He’s only won the league once and it was an asterisk. Not in Rio Vidic Campbell or sadly Terry league. |
But that logic Mickael Silvestre was 5 times the defender that Van Dijk is....
I think Stam is a good shout, although he only played 2 full seasons in the PL.
I would go for:
1. Stam
2. Van Dijk
3. Terry
4. Kompany
5. Vidic |  |
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| Van Dijk on 15:59 - Apr 28 with 1656 views | stopmoaning |
| Van Dijk on 15:03 - Apr 28 by BlueStreak |
Rio is twice the player VVD is for starters |
Haha, that’s funny. He isn’t even half the player. |  | | |
| Van Dijk on 16:03 - Apr 28 with 1643 views | gordon |
Van Dijk, Kompany and Ferdinand are the three outstanding all-round centre-backs for me - certainly Terry, Vidic, Campbell and Stam were great defenders, but didn't have the composure on the ball of those three. |  | | |
| Van Dijk on 16:23 - Apr 28 with 1610 views | OldFart71 |
Alan Hansen. | | | |
| Van Dijk on 16:25 - Apr 28 with 1605 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Van Dijk on 15:12 - Apr 28 by BlueStreak |
Not in a million years. sorry but you are too engrossed with the modern game. Rio was an absolute baller
6 x PL over ten years
How about VVD gets to two and then have a discussion. I will give you a clue, rio and Vidic will still be ahead of him.
Finally, Rio is hardly going to say he would pick him ahead of someone else is he? |
What point are you making though. This is about a individual ability. Everything Rio could do VVD can do. Most things he does better.
Using your argument, Shearer and Kane can’t be considered as two of the best of all time. As they haven’t won a lot of Trophies [Post edited 28 Apr 2022 16:28]
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| Van Dijk on 16:50 - Apr 28 with 1568 views | BlueStreak |
| Van Dijk on 16:25 - Apr 28 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
What point are you making though. This is about a individual ability. Everything Rio could do VVD can do. Most things he does better.
Using your argument, Shearer and Kane can’t be considered as two of the best of all time. As they haven’t won a lot of Trophies [Post edited 28 Apr 2022 16:28]
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I am talking sustained greatness over a number of years | | | |
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